[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[coins101]

It doesn't matter.

2.5% of 84m, or 2m coins fast mined in 48hrs, is acceptable, using the Trolleros own logic and acknowledgement.

If the Darkcoin community voted for a change to the maxcoin supply, then the Darkcoin community requested a change.  The original 2.5% of 84m still stands as acceptable.

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[TanteStefana2]

I wouldn't even try to make any logic to their issues, coins.  None of it matters.  The ONLY thing that matters is what can DASH do for people who want to use it instead of fiat.  Why use it instead of fiat?  Why switch to DASH and out of fiat currency?  That is all that matters.  What these jerks are jerking off about, and their loud screeching until others bend to their will will eventually crash down because it just doesn't hold water and nobody will care.  I was really getting stressed with the trolling today, and I should have walked away from the machine.  Those jerks must all be American, 'cause they seem to have gone to sleep?  LOL.  I'm going to try not to let them get to me.  Still, I do think we have to do more to publicly discredit this kind of slander.  This smear campaign is going too far.

[smooth]

* Our Trollero friends seem to accept that LTC spewing out 450k LTC in the first few hours of its launch is an acceptable number

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1.2% of the current supply. Not significant.
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In fact, something less than 2.5% of maxcoins spewing out at launch seems to be an acceptable number.

Try again. 450K LTC is 0.5% of the the maxcoins (84m) of LTC. The Dash instamine is now (by your calculation) 9% of the maxcoins of Dash  (i.e. 18x as large). That is an enormous difference. (Not to mention that LTC didn't have a bug that created extra coins nor was the money supply cut to increase early miners' shares retroactively.)

As Darkcoin was a fork from Litecoin, it is probably safe to say that the original difficulty parameters were the same.

It would not only not be safe to say, it wouldn't be correct. At all.

The bullshit you come up with about Bitcoin being "easy to mine" at the beginning is irrelevant and blatantly misleading. It is not the difficulty that is the question for an instamine, it is the rate that coins are created. In fact Bitcoin was mined extra slowly at the very beginning, because the difficulty was too high for a while, not too low.

Also, please comment about the extra coins that were produced in Dash due to a bug where the reward formula was too high (stuck at 500 when it "should" have been much lower). In Bitcoin when a bug created extra coins, the bug was fixed and the chain was rolled back erasing the extra coins. The same thing was done in Dash right? No?

As far as the proposal to change the parameters of Monero, you are missing three things:

1. It was rejected, twice, in large part because the community decided not to create a retroactive instamine. Exactly the opposite happened here.

2. The proposal was to reduce the rate of emission, but there was never a proposal to reduce the money supply, just spread out the same coins over a longer period. Instead you multiplied the early miners' share of the money supply by 4x at a keystroke like some sort of central bank. That was and is obscene.

3. Monero is entirely irrelevant to the question of the Dash instamine and money supply manipulations. You are clearly pathologically obsessed to keep bringing it up on this thread. Or perhaps deluded enough to think that is an effective confusion and obfuscation technique to shift attention from the "problem" (Evan's word) of the first 24 hours here.

[coins101]

Compare like with like first.

* How many coins did LTC have in 48hrs?
* Is 2.5% of maxcoins within the bounds of acceptability for any project?

[smooth]

Compare like with like first.

* How many coins did LTC have in 48hrs?

I don't know, according to you 450k

* Is 2.5% of maxcoins within the bounds of acceptability for any project?

That question is incomplete and meaningless. I don't find spewing out 2.5% of the coins in a day (after a series of deceptive and misleading statements about the launch time, etc.) due to a combination of a lousy difficulty adjustment (that was specifically not copied from LTC) and a bug that is uncorrected, followed by arbitrarily cutting the supply to 1/4, thereby increasing the original 2.5% to 9% to be acceptable no. Also, BTW, when you redirected 60% of the future coins to masternode owners that is financially close to doubling the original stash again. So let's call it 18% now (so far -- who knows what other manipulations may happen in the future to increase it again -- after all why would you stop doing what you've been doing?). That's beyond the pale, and something that any non-insiders should stay the hell away from.

Also, let's stick to discussing Dash on the Dash thread. Not LTC, not XMR, nor not some hypothetical "any project"

[Chew Kok]

smooth is liar! Tokeweed is Big Lebowski! Dont trust him! He steal picture! He is not Dude! Monero suck! Gash is good! Do monero have mermaid making pearl poo smooth? No! I don't care premine! Premine mean dev get up early before everybody else. He deserve more because he have good work ethics! Lazy people always complain! Go Gash! smooth will go away now. He know i have too many facts! Go Gash!

[coins101]

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If we restrict it to the period before the obviously deliberate de-optimization was remove[/b]

Delusional is admitting there was a Monero scam launch and then saying it doesn't matter, because Monero.  We only care about scams in other projects.

Lets not restrict to the period before the deliberate de-optimization. If you maintain you want to go back to Darkcoin's first launch days, then you have to own the Monero scam launch.

[Ignition75]

I think the troll line has been crossed and we are now dealing with zealots

Agreed...

The success of Dashcoin is eating at them like a cancer...

[arielbit]

I think the troll line has been crossed and we are now dealing with zealots

Agreed...

The success of Dashcoin is eating at them like a cancer...

hey, this is dashcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020627.0

your coin currency is simply DASH

your Photoshop artists are posting images of coins of dark/dash and it got to your heads easily...remember DASH is not a coin it is a currency 

[Chew Kok]

How come no Gashers tell me Im hero? I destroyed smooth with facts and you not praise me? Because my name?

[dark-sailor]

Wtf going on with coinmarketcap remove them ** have they been troll paid . Evan put them straight can't handle seeing them ** next to my loved dash. Best payment system out there plz explain to coinmarketcap. Monero is f*cked and can't develop a hole in a piece of wood . If you not investing or intrested in dash then find a coin you are intrested in.  

[FiniteByDesign]

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[qvan]

hey dark turds, i got my fair share of deleted posts too...don't play the victim here 

i've got my fair share too.

[Sub-Ether]

39mm Antique Silver “Darkcoin” Proofs:
Limited Edition of 100 proofs to commemorate the 'DRK Age' of the fist anonymous crypto now known as DASH.

1-40 Sold
Only 6 (10 packs) left

haha, the dark ages, lol.
What's next then , the Renaissance ?  

[toknormal]

i've got my fair share too.

And well deserved it is.

[qvan]

i've got my fair share too.

And well deserved it is.

thank you.

so don't play the victim guys..

[iCEBREAKER]

I did reach out to them...doubt they can do anything

I did have encryption, but they stole my gmail data so I think I may have used the same pw as the encryption one somewhere..and that's on me.

I'm fucked...feel like my life is ruined.  I don't know what to do anymore.

Shit, sounds like a targeted hacking 
Hope the other one is ok.
(I did the same for a small bitcoin wallet that was not encrypted thats why I asked, never could work out for sure what caused it so deleted loads of sgminer exes and ended up formating in the end anyway just to make sure)

Not quite sure what has happened here.  What exe file caused this?  Can someone upload this so I can send this off to one of my associates to see what this file is?

that sux man, sorry to hear that jiggy. tell us what the exe was.

I've contacted cryptsy..so we will see what they say. 

The file came from an nzb file.

I wasn't looking carefully and it looked like a folder, and I clicked on it.  It was removed pretty quickly, but I think the damage was done.  I started getting coinbase/ bitfinex reset emails, but I have 2FA on those...so it must have gotten to my gmail data..which I didn't have 2FA on.  Now i do...

Any help you guys are willing to offer, that would be awesome.  My life savings were in those 2 MNs, and this hurts more than you can think.  This may kill the whole crypto thing for me, that's how much it hurts.  I don't really know what to do with myself anymore.

What's odd is that I had 2 wallet.dat files with the same pw, and in 2 different data dirs.  The one that was stolen was the non standard dir (I put it in c:\drk2\) but the regular one (in app data) wasn't stolen..maybe I got it out quick enough (5 minutes after the first). 

Sorry bro, you were never really in crypto to begin with.  You merely participated in a farce on crypto, called DASH.

DASH is a filter which is very effective in separating fools from their money.

Typical foolish DashHoles:

1) invests far more than he can afford to lose in a gold donkey HYIP, then cries when the donkey dies   

2) doesn't understand jack shit about crypto, which explains why he thinks Dash is a good coin and reuses passwords   

3) doesn't understand jack shit about compsec, which explains why he would run an exe from an nzb (were those 0day warez worth killing your gold donkey?) and store passwords in gmail with no 2FA   

4) immediately jumps to the paranoid conclusion it was a "targeted hacking" as if Dash are so fucking precious haX0rz will do anything to get them   


If Cryptsy (the premiere scam exchange for leading scam coins like Paycoin and Dash) can identify/freeze the supposedly stolen coins, DASH isn't fungible.

[toknormal]

so don't play the victim guys..

Irony's clearly not your strong point.

[coins101]

[TRL] Trollero - The cancer of cryptocurrency

I picked up that the first troll attacks started around the beginning of March.  It was actually icebreaker posting which first caught my attention.

Then there was a quick succession of troll posts and then the avalanche started. I guessed by the frequency and timing of the troll posts that some sockpuppets were being used.

For what its worth, I think that these posts arrived in order to create a shitstorm between DASH and Monero, now known as Trollero.

Who has the scrapping script that goes through and lists the post count?  I bet if we go back to February and do a month by month count, you will see the pick-up in trolling.

Do the same for the Trollero thread and you will probably find their 'dev' posts here more than in the Trollero thread - not that that suggests anything other than he posts more here.

Trollero suffered a similar war of words battle when a sockpuppet account wound up BCN, from what I can tell of what was going on. That led to Trollero investors suffering a decline in price.

That is why I think this is another attempt to create a war of words but it is aimed at Trollero, by winding up DASH.

Admittedly, there is also in the mix those unhappy that their crytonote dashcoin dev sold up.

[qvan]

so don't play the victim guys..

Irony's clearly not your strong point.

.....you can twist things around, but simply you cannot escape from reality.