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May 04, 2017, 02:23:04 AM

Maxwell invented CoinJoin so he does actually know exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Dash's (lack of) privacy.

The entire room (not only the speaker) burst into peals of laughter when he mocked Dash for being an instamined scam with shitty "snake oil" technology.

Dash is a laughingstock among the entire crypto community, not just Evil Blockstreamers like gmax and Stupid Trolls from the Monero camp.

Haven't you noticed that Dash is * L I T E R A L L Y  a  J O K E * among serious crypto people?

You lost Tone Vays and all your other non-cultist supporters over the Instamine controversy, yet you insist on pretending that Instamine was some great blessing.  WTF man?  Don't you feel ashamed of using poster-child-for-shitty-scamcoin-marketing tactics to sell non-technical people on Dash's worst-in-class technology?

I guess you wouldn't, since you spent decades taking advantage of gambling addicts and semi-senile elderly people in your casino.   Embarrassed

Did you see this?  http://bitsonline.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-garza-guilty/

It will be a great day when Evan and you plead guilty and begin waiting for your sentences to be handed down.  May Justice be done to the fullest extent of the Law.
This post is a little more juicy. So Maxwell created the basic idea for Dash's PrivateSend implementation, so that gives him the knowledge to criticize it now, after tons of refinements, and countless github commits? If he actually bothered to review it, I could take him seriously.

I couldn't care less about what a pro-Bitcoin group of people think about Dash. We are coming for their lunch, and they know it. That nervous laughter and coughing you described? It's going to get a lot more nervous when we start coming after their marketcap with a solid foundation and the governance and funding to succeed where they are failing.

As far as being a laughingstock, people are entitled to their opinions. You know what they say, opinions are like *ssholes...

The instamine WAS a blessing in disguise. It led to a committed developer, which led to many committed developers, which led to a passionate, inspired community, which led to a solid network and technology that gave Dash the tools to succeed, which will lead to Dash becoming the digital currency of choice for global finance. You can't argue with history. Dash is killing it, plain and simple. (More nervous laughing and coughing)

I've made some of those "gambling addicts" some serious money by getting them to invest in Dash. Dash Nation is vast and strong, and we are not going anywhere, despite what some nerd thinks about us.

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May 04, 2017, 02:38:37 AM

Maxwell invented CoinJoin so he does actually know exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Dash's (lack of) privacy.

The entire room (not only the speaker) burst into peals of laughter when he mocked Dash for being an instamined scam with shitty "snake oil" technology.

Dash is a laughingstock among the entire crypto community, not just Evil Blockstreamers like gmax and Stupid Trolls from the Monero camp.

Haven't you noticed that Dash is * L I T E R A L L Y  a  J O K E * among serious crypto people?

You lost Tone Vays and all your other non-cultist supporters over the Instamine controversy, yet you insist on pretending that Instamine was some great blessing.  WTF man?  Don't you feel ashamed of using poster-child-for-shitty-scamcoin-marketing tactics to sell non-technical people on Dash's worst-in-class technology?

I guess you wouldn't, since you spent decades taking advantage of gambling addicts and semi-senile elderly people in your casino.   Embarrassed

Did you see this?  http://bitsonline.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-garza-guilty/

It will be a great day when Evan and you plead guilty and begin waiting for your sentences to be handed down.  May Justice be done to the fullest extent of the Law.
This post is a little more juicy. So Maxwell created the basic idea for Dash's PrivateSend implementation, so that gives him the knowledge to criticize it now, after tons of refinements, and countless github commits? If he actually bothered to review it, I could take him seriously.

I couldn't care less about what a pro-Bitcoin group of people think about Dash. We are coming for their lunch, and they know it. That nervous laughter and coughing you described? It's going to get a lot more nervous when we start coming after their marketcap with a solid foundation and the governance and funding to succeed where they are failing.

As far as being a laughingstock, people are entitled to their opinions. You know what they say, opinions are like *ssholes...

The instamine WAS a blessing in disguise. It led to a committed developer, which led to many committed developers, which led to a passionate, inspired community, which led to a solid network and technology that gave Dash the tools to succeed, which will lead to Dash becoming the digital currency of choice for global finance. You can't argue with history. Dash is killing it, plain and simple. (More nervous laughing and coughing)

I've made some of those "gambling addicts" some serious money by getting them to invest in Dash. Dash Nation is vast and strong, and we are not going anywhere, despite what some nerd thinks about us.

How is Dash coming for Bitcoin's lunch, when the current version of Core is 10s of 1000s of lines of code ahead of the deprecated version from which Dash forked many years ago?

You know you don't have the manpower (much less brainpower) to refactor and pull all those bug fixes, optimizations, and groundbreaking new technology (RBF/SEGWIT/ETC.) into Dash.

You are deluding yourself and others with the cargo cult fantasy that Evan the Ginger Genius of Phoenix is a magical wunderkind capable of out-developing Bitcoin Core.

It ain't gonna happen.  Dash is already light years behind, while Bitcoin and Litecoin are about to accelerate to Ludicrous Speed.   Cheesy


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May 04, 2017, 05:10:25 AM

Bit offtopic, but can someone explain what happend with china?
BTC in china is about 350$ cheaper then in US-exchanges, have they still not fixed theire withdrawing issus?

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The Facts about Dash, monero and BTC

Kristov Atlas Darksend/Privatesend review and response from Dash team.
https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/reply-to-kristovs-paper.2325/

How Dash's 'PrivateSend' Works Under the Hood
https://youtu.be/vgCId3wJc5Y

Dash Deanonomization Challenge From Febuary 2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg14031652#msg14031652

Monero Cripplemine Fastmine issues
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1435385.0

Dash's privacy feature has never been broken - Turns out Monero's privacy feature has never really worked to begin with
https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/65fz68/dashs_privacy_feature_has_never_been_broken_turns/

Monero Transactions History Can Be Revealed and Exposed: Research
https://cointelegraph.com/news/monero-transactions-history-can-be-revealed-and-exposed-research

Warning: Every CryptoNote/Monero transaction in history will be retroactively exposed
https://steemit.com/cryptonote/@macrochip/warning-every-cryptonote-monero-transaction-in-history-will-be-retroactively-exposed

Dash Instamine Issue Clarification
https://dashpay.atlassian.net/wiki/display/OC/Dash+Instamine+Issue+Clarification


Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?
https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

My View: Dash's Instamine Is Not A Problem
http://fintekneeks.com/my-view-dashs-pre-mine-is-not-a-problem/

Deep technical analysis of the early Dash mining and distribution
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg15619552#msg15619552

Confessions of a Instaminer Hashman
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg18041424#msg18041424



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Dash partners with Coinapult for cryptocurrency to fiat gateway
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Bitcoin Alternative Dash Collaborates With Coinapult to Launch Gateway for Regulated Crypto to Fiat Conversion

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May 04, 2017, 10:32:51 AM

Maxwell invented CoinJoin so he does actually know exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Dash's (lack of) privacy.

The entire room (not only the speaker) burst into peals of laughter when he mocked Dash for being an instamined scam with shitty "snake oil" technology.

Dash is a laughingstock among the entire crypto community, not just Evil Blockstreamers like gmax and Stupid Trolls from the Monero camp.

Haven't you noticed that Dash is * L I T E R A L L Y  a  J O K E * among serious crypto people?

You lost Tone Vays and all your other non-cultist supporters over the Instamine controversy, yet you insist on pretending that Instamine was some great blessing.  WTF man?  Don't you feel ashamed of using poster-child-for-shitty-scamcoin-marketing tactics to sell non-technical people on Dash's worst-in-class technology?

I guess you wouldn't, since you spent decades taking advantage of gambling addicts and semi-senile elderly people in your casino.   Embarrassed

Did you see this?  http://bitsonline.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-garza-guilty/

It will be a great day when Evan and you plead guilty and begin waiting for your sentences to be handed down.  May Justice be done to the fullest extent of the Law.
This post is a little more juicy. So Maxwell created the basic idea for Dash's PrivateSend implementation, so that gives him the knowledge to criticize it now, after tons of refinements, and countless github commits? If he actually bothered to review it, I could take him seriously.

I couldn't care less about what a pro-Bitcoin group of people think about Dash. We are coming for their lunch, and they know it. That nervous laughter and coughing you described? It's going to get a lot more nervous when we start coming after their marketcap with a solid foundation and the governance and funding to succeed where they are failing.

As far as being a laughingstock, people are entitled to their opinions. You know what they say, opinions are like *ssholes...

The instamine WAS a blessing in disguise. It led to a committed developer, which led to many committed developers, which led to a passionate, inspired community, which led to a solid network and technology that gave Dash the tools to succeed, which will lead to Dash becoming the digital currency of choice for global finance. You can't argue with history. Dash is killing it, plain and simple. (More nervous laughing and coughing)

I've made some of those "gambling addicts" some serious money by getting them to invest in Dash. Dash Nation is vast and strong, and we are not going anywhere, despite what some nerd thinks about us.

How is Dash coming for Bitcoin's lunch, when the current version of Core is 10s of 1000s of lines of code ahead of the deprecated version from which Dash forked many years ago?

You know you don't have the manpower (much less brainpower) to refactor and pull all those bug fixes, optimizations, and groundbreaking new technology (RBF/SEGWIT/ETC.) into Dash.

You are deluding yourself and others with the cargo cult fantasy that Evan the Ginger Genius of Phoenix is a magical wunderkind capable of out-developing Bitcoin Core.

It ain't gonna happen.  Dash is already light years behind, while Bitcoin and Litecoin are about to accelerate to Ludicrous Speed.   Cheesy


Maxwell invented CoinJoin so he does actually know exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Dash's (lack of) privacy.

The entire room (not only the speaker) burst into peals of laughter when he mocked Dash for being an instamined scam with shitty "snake oil" technology.

Dash is a laughingstock among the entire crypto community, not just Evil Blockstreamers like gmax and Stupid Trolls from the Monero camp.

Haven't you noticed that Dash is * L I T E R A L L Y  a  J O K E * among serious crypto people?

You lost Tone Vays and all your other non-cultist supporters over the Instamine controversy, yet you insist on pretending that Instamine was some great blessing.  WTF man?  Don't you feel ashamed of using poster-child-for-shitty-scamcoin-marketing tactics to sell non-technical people on Dash's worst-in-class technology?

I guess you wouldn't, since you spent decades taking advantage of gambling addicts and semi-senile elderly people in your casino.   Embarrassed

Did you see this?  http://bitsonline.com/gaw-miners-paycoin-garza-guilty/

It will be a great day when Evan and you plead guilty and begin waiting for your sentences to be handed down.  May Justice be done to the fullest extent of the Law.
This post is a little more juicy. So Maxwell created the basic idea for Dash's PrivateSend implementation, so that gives him the knowledge to criticize it now, after tons of refinements, and countless github commits? If he actually bothered to review it, I could take him seriously.

I couldn't care less about what a pro-Bitcoin group of people think about Dash. We are coming for their lunch, and they know it. That nervous laughter and coughing you described? It's going to get a lot more nervous when we start coming after their marketcap with a solid foundation and the governance and funding to succeed where they are failing.

As far as being a laughingstock, people are entitled to their opinions. You know what they say, opinions are like *ssholes...

The instamine WAS a blessing in disguise. It led to a committed developer, which led to many committed developers, which led to a passionate, inspired community, which led to a solid network and technology that gave Dash the tools to succeed, which will lead to Dash becoming the digital currency of choice for global finance. You can't argue with history. Dash is killing it, plain and simple. (More nervous laughing and coughing)

I've made some of those "gambling addicts" some serious money by getting them to invest in Dash. Dash Nation is vast and strong, and we are not going anywhere, despite what some nerd thinks about us.

How is Dash coming for Bitcoin's lunch, when the current version of Core is 10s of 1000s of lines of code ahead of the deprecated version from which Dash forked many years ago?

You know you don't have the manpower (much less brainpower) to refactor and pull all those bug fixes, optimizations, and groundbreaking new technology (RBF/SEGWIT/ETC.) into Dash.

You are deluding yourself and others with the cargo cult fantasy that Evan the Ginger Genius of Phoenix is a magical wunderkind capable of out-developing Bitcoin Core.

It ain't gonna happen.  Dash is already light years behind, while Bitcoin and Litecoin are about to accelerate to Ludicrous Speed.   Cheesy



Really DASH is behind bitcoin?, WOW either your living in dream world or your just plainly dont want to listen and are playing ignorant.

In what way is DASH behind Bitcoin? or let me put it, In what way is Bitcoin ahead of DASH?, just because DASH forked bitcoin's code doesn’t put it behind. Tell me oen thing bitcoin dev/community has made strides in the past few years and then ask what DASH has done in those years, i could give you a list. The bitcoin devs/community cannot reach a simple agreement on increasing block size from 1mb to 2mb. Dash with the assistance of its governance model (Yes DASH was the first to implement this) reached a consensus in 24 hours to increase it. Dash was the first to develop Instant Send (transactions can occur within 1-2 seconds and confirmed) faster then a debit card transaction, The first to have a much better privacy model then bitcoin (PrivateSend), The first to build a governance model which allows the community to vote on budget proposals. The first to have the 2 tire network (Masternodes) which users are incentivised the spin up - Hmmm bitcoin offers nothing the likes of.. The first coin to fund itself.. correct me if i'm wrong, but DASH has now more budget to work on improving its coin more then Bitcoin has ever got. The first to develop DAPI (De-centralised API), the first to implement Evolution which will rid everyday users of cryptographic addresses if they need to and you can send DASH by means of a username (like paypal), The first to implement ISA saving like accounts, again these will be incentivised. The list goes on and on... Now tell me how is DASH behind Bitcoin?? no let me tell you Instead... The only reason why Bitcoin is ahead is because it was the first cryptocurrency and became popular, it was *meant to be a cryptocurrency and i stress meant as till this day it hasn’t lived up to its name to be as such. Over the years it's lost its market cap and quite recently actually a few days ago (it lost a bit more of its mojo and its dominance fell under 60%, its currently @ Dominance: 59.7%, Ref: http://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#btc-percentage


Are you sure about manpower?, how much full time devs does bitcoin have...? hmm my guess under 15-20.. Well DASH has recruited quite a bit and is still recruiting, the team is growing at such as fast pace that it has more developers now then bitcoin will ever have, who knows we may even see some of those p**** of** bitcoin developers moving to work for DASH (if their good). Just keep an eye on this page: https://www.dash.org/team/ (not everyone is listed their right now, just give it a few days and you'll see an update shortly). Why does DASH even need segwit?? its probably slower then Instant Send anyway and probably worser off in the long run.

Well were not deluding ourselves that Evan is a wonderkid, we know his a genius wonderkid. He asked for assistance and wanted to fix Bitcoins flaws but the dev's ignored him and he went his own way... and what kind of deluded person builds DASH that's worth a market cap of more then half a billion dollars??

Don't be too sure,it will happen, once Evolution is released: https://www.dash.org/evolution/ all those bitcoin lovers will flock over to DASH and not only those geeks, it will be normal everyday people making use of DASH aka Digital cash as a cryptocurrency. I believe that your just scared of competition and you and others like you know that DASH is making significant gains  and is the only true competitor to bitcoin. Watch out DASH is coming and is going to knock out that number 1 seat which BItcoin has been cosy'ing up to for the past few years.

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Maxwell invented CoinJoin so he does actually know exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Dash's (lack of) privacy.

Maxwell can "LoL" at Dash all he likes, but Dash is solving the "right" problem (monetary fungibility) while he's solving the wrong one (encrypted messaging).

The privacy solutions he presents all belong in the domain of payment systems, not stores of value. As such they are incomplete and work by exception to the core blockchain protocol.

For example...

What is a sidechain ?
From a cryptographic point of view, it's an interesting concept - turn a bitcoin into basically any type of alt-coin you want. But from a monetary point of view, what are you doing ? You are doing reverse fungibility, turning the entire coin supply into a kind of chameleon-like asset that has no static properties and where one part of the coin supply is distinct form another instead of indistinct.

What is mechanical pegging ?
From a cryptographical point of view it's an interesting concept - save noobs from "dangerous" pump & dump alts and allow them to hold interesting experimental tokens risk-free, mollycoddled by the safety of the mothership. But from an economic point of view, what are you doing ? Creating an extremely nasty economic coupling between markets that transmits volatility from where it does belong to where it doesn't. (See Bretton Woods for previous and Euro for current failed precedents).

What is "Cryptographic Transaction Privacy" ?
From a cryptographical point of view it's an interesting concept - allow transactions to take place in private, obscured from the view of onlookers. But from a systems analysis point of view, what are you doing ? Confusing the priorities of a trading platform with those of an electronic asset (which happen to be in conflict and which is why Dash avoided "Cryptographic Transaction Privacy" in the first place in order to support the priorities of compatibility with the Bitcoin ecosystem, supply fungibility, blockchain transparency and optimal economic store of value).




What is "Standard" ?
From a technology point of view, it's a desirable concept - a reference framework to which everyone conforms in order to facilitate universal interoperability. Greg Maxwell sees electronic assets as if they were some kind of RFC where's there's no point in "not conforming". (He's on record both in print and video with this explicit opinion). But from an asset portfolio point of view, what does that represent ? The exact opposite of best practice investment philosophy where diversity, not conformity is optimal.

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May 04, 2017, 11:41:09 AM

iCEY also doesn't seem to understand the genius of Dash being made Bitcoin compatible the way it was in the beginning.  This compatibility means that Dash has always been able to keep up-to-date with incorporating Bitcoin's latest code.  Dash isn't a stale fork from old deprecated code, it's an active fork of the latest Bitcoin code with lots of Dash improvements and refinements and awesome Dash innovation that means Dash will always be superior to Bitcoin.


I can't find any mention of Dash on Coinapult's website yet.  Is Dash live after you sign up and in or am I just a bit early to the party?
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May 04, 2017, 01:35:38 PM

Free Talk Live Appearance - Dash Force News



Last night Joel was on Free Talk Live for the full three-hour segment, talking about Dash and cryptocurrency.

Free Talk Live is a nightly call-in radio show and podcast covering a variety of issues related to current events and libertarianism, including cryptocurrency. The show has been covering Bitcoin since 2011 and has had big industry players such as Gavin Andresen and Evan Duffield on as guests in the early days.


Read more: https://www.dashforcenews.com/free-talk-live-appearance/
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May 04, 2017, 01:56:29 PM

iCEY you're back. Good to see, you are like a lucky charm for this thread. I expect Dash price should get a nice boost now.

A few general comments about your recent posts. The insults you bring to the debate indicate to me that you are not very confident on the foundations of your stance. 

10,000 lines of code does not mean quality code in any meaningful way unless you are an IT manager from 20 years ago. But maybe you don't know much about coding. In fact considering all this effort has gone into creating features noone wants, (except for litecoin) at the moment you'd have to say it is bloat.

Offchain scaling (or layer one and a half or layer one and three quarters) is still not a good solution for bitcoin.
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In latest news Bitcoin lead developer dramatically laughs out loud at Dash.

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5.4.17: Your morning briefing

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Didn't find any info on Coinapult, looks like they do not post in their blog or twitter anymore.
But still 1585$ for 1 BTC not over the top too much, hope dash will not cost more than on exchanges.
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May 04, 2017, 04:11:50 PM

Cryptocurrency Users in Panama Can Now Trade Dash via Coinapult

https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/cryptocurrency-users-panama-can-now-trade-dash-via-coinapult/

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Didn't find any info on Coinapult, looks like they do not post in their blog or twitter anymore.
But still 1585$ for 1 BTC not over the top too much, hope dash will not cost more than on exchanges.

Check out this link: https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/cryptocurrency-users-panama-can-now-trade-dash-via-coinapult/
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May 04, 2017, 05:12:01 PM







DASH COMMUNITY: GET READY FOR HEAVY TROLLING



This week I went on Free Talk Live, a radio show and podcast newly sponsored by the Dash network, to talk about cryptocurrency, and of course Dash in particular. We had a troll call in and ramble about how awful he thought Dash was, as is par for the course. Some of Free Talk Live’s listeners later reacted similarly, posting concerns over a “scam” being promoted by the show, linking to threads in the Monero subreddit. Plenty of new heat coming to Dash as it expands into the consciousness of more parts of the public dialogue over digital currencies.

And that’s fine. I do, after all, work for the Dash Force, whose original mission was to defend Dash’s good name and represent the coin and its community with honesty and professionalism. But let me tell you, my “Spidey Sense” is going off. I can feel that we’re in for a wave of trolling the likes of which has never been seen before with Dash.
https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-community-get-ready-heavy-trolling/

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May 04, 2017, 05:52:58 PM

WTF DASh looks so small behind ltc and ripple this is crazy still not 200$ per dash?
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