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July 19, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
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fees only rise after the cap is strike and backlog begins otherwise fees will never need to increase no matter the quantity. Dash could simply take away the limit there would be no issue, but people are swept up on the theory thats its something now to truly have a blocklimit. Bitcoin works just fine with out a blocklimit whatsoever as intended

Dash already has 8x Bitcoin capacity for processing transactions (original 4x over Bitcoin but then Dash upgraded to 2MB Blocksize). Dash has much larger blocksizes scheduled
and can achieve on-chain scalability relatively easy by implementing blocksize increase up to 10MB size if necessary, higher blocksizes will most likely need more study but looks
doable by using certain technologies. When you have a high value network like Dash, upgrading to higher blocksizes needs to be researched and tested thoroughly in order to not
put the network at risk. Totally removing the limit could brings unforeseen side effects or open up new attack vectors.

Bitcoin on the other hand is stuck on the 1 MB blocksize for years now and can not reach concensus with its community / developers / miners about raising that to 2 MB size or higher.
(thats why Bitcoin Cash was created). SegWit is just a temp solution, once transactions and volume pick up pace Bitcoin will again hit a ceiling and will be unable to scale any further.
Lightning Network needs a lot more testing before Bitcoin dev are assured its safe to let loose on mainnet and it will come with additional risks (risks in the form of decreased security,
increased centralization and higher transaction fees).
  

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The Masternode Network has pretty much upgraded to latest protocol 70210 (82%), please make sure that you upgraded to latest version as well (0.12.3.2)
Sentinel's latest version : v1.2.0 (do a git pull to update to latest sentinel version, if you are still in the update process)



Those masternodes that are currently not on protocol 70210 (18%) are at risk of not getting paid, when spork 10 (MASTERNODE_PAY_UPDATED_NODES) gets activated.
You can use dashninja to check if you are on latest protocol 70210 and on latest version 0.12.3.2 : https://www.dashninja.pl


Do you know how to check the version of sentinel you're running?

No, but if you do a git pull on an already updated sentinel, you will get informed that no files has been changed or that it is already up to date (i cant really remember what the linux report says exactly,  but you will know its up to date)

Makes sense.. Although Dash Ninja - Masternode Detail Monitoring can read the sentinel version thats running. Was just curious, but its no biggie.
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The Masternode Network has pretty much upgraded to latest protocol 70210 (82%), please make sure that you upgraded to latest version as well (0.12.3.2)
Sentinel's latest version : v1.2.0 (do a git pull to update to latest sentinel version, if you are still in the update process)



Those masternodes that are currently not on protocol 70210 (18%) are at risk of not getting paid, when spork 10 (MASTERNODE_PAY_UPDATED_NODES) gets activated.
You can use dashninja to check if you are on latest protocol 70210 and on latest version 0.12.3.2 : https://www.dashninja.pl


Do you know how to check the version of sentinel you're running?

No, but if you do a git pull on an already updated sentinel, you will get informed that no files has been changed or that it is already up to date (i cant really remember what the linux report says exactly,  but you will know its up to date)

Makes sense.. Although Dash Ninja - Masternode Detail Monitoring can read the sentinel version thats running. Was just curious, but its no biggie.

Interesting, i did not know that. I checked and it does indeed also show sentinel version there.
Thanks, something to keep in mind.

There must be a dash-cli command for that somewhere though...

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The market's reaction to this update's Very Bad News (hidden in an invasive Google .pdf) speaks for itself.  Mr. Market is saying "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!"   Grin




Another flash crash today! It’s not looking good for dash at all. I think big masternode owners are selling off too. This isn’t just about a bear market any more, there must be an underlying problem specifically with dash, it’s just plummeting hard

Masternode owners are not happy because for the last 3 years Dash Clown Group Inc has consistently over-promised and under-delivered on everything from Masternode blinding to Evolution.  They don't even have an ETA for the ETA for a roadmap update, despite Nathan Marley claiming one would be made by the end of June.

And now the SEC is sniffing around...



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And now the SEC is sniffing around...

lol, we know something that Icey does not know about Dash and the SEC ... should we tell him ?
nah, better not.  Lips sealed

one thing is sure : he will not like it  Grin

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We are the beast!
(6666 coming  Cheesy)

1 Dash = $ 6666 ?

I would not object to that, i just hope the beast allows me to enjoy it.

Ohhh, our pagenumber  Cheesy

Lol yes. But the price will come too  Wink
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DASH just keeps setting itself apart in strucutre and strategic vision for development and adoption, most and if not all project should learn from the approach here.
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we know something that Icey does not know about Dash and the SEC ... should we tell him ?

nah, better not.  Lips sealed

Who are the "we" you are talking about?  The Dash Insider Club?  I thought there was no Dash Inner Circle.  TIL there is a Dash Inner Circle composed of Core Group Inc and their long-time, large-holder sycophants.  Undecided

This practice of selective disclosure of market-sensitive information regarding "Dash and the SEC" is unethical and illegal (IOW par for the Dash scam course).

in 2000 the SEC imposed new regulations to eliminate the practice of "selective disclosure," in which business leaders provided earnings estimates and other vital information to analysts and large institutional shareholders before informing smaller investors and the rest of the general public. The regulation forces companies to make market-sensitive information available to all parties at the same time.



For those wondering about Dash on Poloniex :

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DASH is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled as we work to find, test, and audit a solution.
Thank you for your patience in the meantime.

Poloniex is most likely updating to Dash latest software version. I doubt this is related to the stress testing as other exchanges (who have far more Dash traded volume) are working just fine.
This just concerns Dash deposits and withdrawals, Dash trading itself does not seem effected as the trading chart is not frozen : https://cryptowat.ch/markets/poloniex/dash/btc/4hr
and the trade history is also up to date.

To tungfa : maybe someone from the Dash Core-Team who has an official contactperson with Poloniex can check with them, see if they need some help or can provide us with some additional info?

Dash has been frozen on Polo for more than 24 hours.  That's not normal "updating" and neither is the ominous silence from Polo.  It appears the cargo cult's try-hard crapflood of transactions (obviously designed to scream "ZOMG LOOK AT DASH IT HAS MAOR TX THAN BITCOIN WOW VERY SCALING") broke something in a major exchange's Dash infrastructure.  So much for Macrochip's blatant falsehoods about how "users don't even notice" this result of a stress test during an upgrade.  If I was a Dash bagholder waiting to get my Dash off Polo and start up a Masternode, I'd certainly notice something has been going wrong for over a day.

Too bad paying Clown Group Inc's $520,000 in back taxes is a higher priority than funding the Dash Help Desk.   Cheesy


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I think there is quite a lot of transparency about Dash stance towards SEC. DashForceNews has had articles about it for example. It is argued by the Dash side that Dash is not akin to a security. If the SEC wants to try and push square pegs into round holes good luck to them.

But Icey, your little rant did remind me of that time Fluffypony manipulated the Monero market when hinted at big developements coming in Monero, only to later admit he was joking ! Were you part of that little insider clique?
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Dash Core Group's 100% effective management and control of a supposedly decentralized project is abomination in the sight of Emperor Satoshi and will be ruthlessly purged until all traces are removed from his Holy Realms.




Case in point: Bitcoin withdrawals on Polo are working fine, despite it having no Treasury-funded "DAO" (LOL) to bicker over its monthly allocation of cargo cult goodies.

OTOH Dash withdrawals have been mysteriously disabled for >24 hours, despite it having a Treasury-funded Core Group Inc, Help Desk, PR firm, etc.


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DASH just keeps setting itself apart in strucutre and strategic vision for development and adoption, most and if not all project should learn from the approach here.

I agree with you on this and yet there are so many people (cheerleaders of other coins) trying to BASH the DASH. The constant development and progress that is being made here will prove them all wrong. That feels good.

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I think there is quite a lot of transparency about Dash stance towards SEC. DashForceNews has had articles about it for example. It is argued by the Dash side that Dash is not akin to a security. If the SEC wants to try and push square pegs into round holes good luck to them.

To those interested to learn more about Dash engagement with the SEC (which turns out to be a pro-actively approach from Dash to the SEC) :

https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-podcast-59-dash-core-group-ceo-ryan-taylor-ama/

The SEC part starts at timestamp 40:26 and i find it rather interesting.
More official information will be provided at Dash next quarterly call.

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Dash Stress Test Processes Double Bitcoin’s On-Chain Transactions Without Issue

https://www.dashforcenews.com/dash-stress-test-processes-double-bitcoins-on-chain-transactions-without-issue/

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Dash underwent a network stress test, processing over double Bitcoin’s transactions without a performance decrease, validating long-term scaling plan.

Over the course of a couple of days, the Dash network underwent an impromptu network capacity test, with well over a half-million transactions over a 24-hour period. This test was done through use of a transaction tool
that send out batches of transactions, and was initiated by community members without prior planning or notice to developers.

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According to Benjamin Nitschke, development lead of the MyDashWallet project, the extra load on the network was barely noticeable:

“We didn’t notice anything [amiss], CPU went from 0.5% to maybe 3%, and if we hadn’t told anyone, others would have only noticed a few days later on transaction charts. For some reason ShapeShift stopped working for Dash and Poloniex stopped working as well,
but these look unrelated. No reason to think their nodes crashed as they were not under stress at all (our Bitcoin node is at least 10% higher CPU and our Ethereum node is using 100x higher CPU for just following all transactions than what Dash does, even under stress).”

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Part of this success is due to several optimizations of the code with the recent 12.3 release, which is mostly, though not completely, implemented by the network. According to Dash Core Lead Developer Udjinm6, optimizations in the new release were especially apparent during this
experiment when contrasted with older 12.2 nodes:

“We noticed that 1-CPU 12.3 nodes kept running at 10-12% load, without any noticeable impact by the stress test. However, 2-CPU 12.2 node load fluctuated around 40-60%, with 1-CPUs being close to 100% most of the time.”

Maybe Poloniex was running an older 12.2 node during the stress test and experienced heavier CPU usage, that would explain a few things.
Hopefully Poloniex will restore deposits and withdrawals soon.

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July 20, 2018, 07:42:25 AM

Dash Best Wallet

https://cryptocomes.com/guides/coins-guide/dash/dash-best-wallet

#dash_force
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July 20, 2018, 08:09:01 AM



You are still at this icebreaker? You are a machine.

It's called "looking after your investment". He's of the view that complimentary commentary engenders weakness in the asset and that the converse is also true. (There may be something to that theory because whenever he appears in the thread we usually get a favourable revaluation soon after).


See what I mean ?



(Also credit to the sterling work of "Dash Clown Group" in steering a steady and safe course over the last few years).
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July 20, 2018, 08:22:33 AM
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You are still at this icebreaker? You are a machine.

It's called "looking after your investment". He's of the view that complimentary commentary engenders weakness in the asset and that the converse is also true. (There may be something to that theory because whenever he appears in the thread we usually get a favourable revaluation soon after).


See what I mean ?



(Also credit to the sterling work of "Dash Clown Group" in steering a steady and safe course over the last few years).


Yeah, a price breakout .. nice. And we jumped a few ranks as well : https://www.coinranker.net/



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July 20, 2018, 08:41:06 AM
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New longterm (up)trend established for Dash ? Stay tuned...




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See what I mean ?



(Also credit to the sterling work of "Dash Clown Group" in steering a steady and safe course over the last few years).



Quote from: iCEBREAKER


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July 20, 2018, 09:20:11 AM

is dash going up?
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July 20, 2018, 09:38:22 AM



You are still at this icebreaker? You are a machine.

It's called "looking after your investment". He's of the view that complimentary commentary engenders weakness in the asset and that the converse is also true. (There may be something to that theory because whenever he appears in the thread we usually get a favourable revaluation soon after).


See what I mean ?

(Also credit to the sterling work of "Dash Clown Group" in steering a steady and safe course over the last few years).


Never thought I'd say it but.. uh ... Thanks Icebreaker.
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