[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Dahaa]

If qwizzie starts showing beautiful predictions, wait for a new bottom! Where is the Dash / BTC chart !?

And now for something less bearish, it looks like Dash price recovery is progressing nicely :

https://i.imgur.com/siPtF1L.jpg
Source :  https://cryptowat.ch/charts/BINANCE:DASH-USDT?period=3d

Will Dash hit $100 end of this year ? Stay tuned.....

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[qwizzie]

It almost feels like you are not being truthful with how many accounts you have on Dash Whale / Dash Central.

Well regardless of how it "feels" I only ever had one.

Maybe you've got too much time on your hands for cooking up toxic aspersions about people.

Try entertaining the idea that some posters may present their arguments in good faith because they've researched them and not because they're covertly trying to undermine the discussion.

Having re-read everything i think i do need to offer you an apology. I read it as you having two account names : 'dashwhale' & 'Roger'. But having read it back, that does not seem to be the case.
You simply referred to Dash Central, as being named 'dashwhale' before (i guess you referring to 'dashwhale' instead of 'DashWhale' threw me off).

My sincere and humble apology.

And maybe my suspicions about you having more then one Bitcointalk forum account are incorrect and should not have posted. I just found it weird how a number of Bitcointalkforum accounts in here
have this very similar 'A greeting.' at the end of their posts. And when i saw that happen in one of your posts as well, i perhaps prematurely leaped to an incorrect conclusion.
  
My sincere and humble apology, if i overreacted there as well.


    

[birdonthewire]

If qwizzie starts showing beautiful predictions, wait for a new bottom! Where is the Dash / BTC chart !?

And now for something less bearish, it looks like Dash price recovery is progressing nicely :

Will Dash hit $100 end of this year ? Stay tuned.....

LOL !!! How do you know them !!! ...It seems that even "the grandmother of DASH" has learned before to recognize a centralized and speculative scam ... than to handle the famous wallet worldwide example of usability!

toxic quizzie, xkcd & the rest of the ass-licking parasites will have to tell Rtaylor to come up with another theory to troll a year ... that the bag sounds hollow!

I don't know ... what if the DAO finances their kidnappers the sweets of their nephews ... or the tampax of their girlfriends I think it could consolidate us as a store of value!

I don't know ... as long as there is imagination, there are options. Positive thinking to power !!!

[bigrcanada1]

Ahhh yes, toks delusional view of miners, that they are these majestic and pure white knights of the crypto world, providing the foundation and security of what we all hold dear.

Rubbish.  In my view...miners as they are today are the biggest risk to cyrpto currencies moving forward.  The control of the total global hash power of the crypto world in the hands of only a few players in countries that are hostile to freedom and free will.  I mean what could possibly go wrong.

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.  Yes...mining as possibly envisioned by Satoshi was fantastic ideal...that once implemented morphed into a cesspool of centralized manipulation that we see today. A colluding cabol of a small handful of players that control many of the projects in this space.

I for one believe in holding this power in check...and in fact minimizing our reliance on such a centralized cancer that mining has has become, essential!

[toknormal]

My sincere and humble apology.

A greeting.

[toknormal]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

[birdonthewire]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

You don't understand the Canadian Pig and his "high and altruistic wishes"! - another aneuronal parasite that prays in public for $ 5 DASH, widely known in discord for having been engendered by the anus, rather than from the front (his mom was a real visionary of what she contributed to this world... we cannot deny that family merit) -

"As BTC is irrelevant garbage compared to DASH ... and the miners, a threat of centralization ... we centralize it ourselves, 4 whales (and their crumb-eating ass-licking trolls ) ... and fixed matter !!!" ( Intellectual excellence in nectar always at the service of decentralization and the "general interest" ... it must be recognized!   )

[qwizzie]

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

Zcoin to Copy Dash’s ChainLocks 51% Attack-Proofing
https://dashnews.org/zcoin-to-copy-dashs-chainlocks-51-attack-proofing/

Looks like Bitcoin is making a serious attempt at breaking into the $17,000 range.

1 BTC = $16,724 (+5,09%)
1 DASH = $82.23 (+11,09%)

[birdonthewire]

Beyond Rtaylor's insubstantial juggling to consolidate a store of value, now conveniently chanted by the rest of DAO hijackers ... the ONLY UNDISCUTABLE solution is an exposure to proven stores of value.

For DASH to consolidate its hypothetical rises, it is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore speculative agents and their Casino practices, such as Nakamoto's Cannibalism in BTC, the infinite fiat - direct, or amplified via BTC - ... or, specifically, DASH pump & dump prayers such as xkdc or the Pig of Canada (who shamefully define themselves as advocates of the project and are used and supported by DASH referents to intoxicate the project's information channels). The absolutely inexcusable IS DRIPPING proper RESERVATIONS to a destination that supports DASH.

In this way, speculative capital pumping its ecosystem would revalue those reserves every time they withdraw their artificial capital injections ... and DASH would take advantage of their speculative inflows ... and also their withdrawals.

Any rise in DASH is a leap to the bare chest and a renunciation of retaining the wealth received in its ecosystem (a fundamental resource to consolidate the financial independence that Duffield expressed in his original approach ... with which all these charlatan parasites wipe their asses , no matter how much feigned fidelity they dramatize at the expense of DASH, not developing resources in that sense is absolutely unaffordable Russian roulette for a 6-year-old project already ... one of the deans of the crypto sector.

Meanwhile ... the trolls keep spouting irrelevant stupidity to keep the holders distracted ... and their owners, bloating their pockets at the cost of sinking an inimitable project at its inception.

The first thing that DASH must do to be a Reserve of Value is to take advantage of ALL the capital received in its ecosystem. With the resources for that ... keep the crooks playing their rotten games ... zero problems.

Financial independence ... that's what they call it.

[qwizzie]

How to filter through all that noise ?  

Edit : never mind, i found the solution.  

[birdonthewire]

How to filter through all that noise ?

Edit : never mind, i found the solution  

LOL !!! ...:       ... But you weren't the king of ignore, phony? Won't you let us enjoy your arrogance anymore?

But...yes!...Solutions ( me ) that revert to ALL DASH followers , EVERYONE, a legitimate and ethical aspiration in a crypto monetary colective structure ... and that of course, thieves like you will never implement to share the exclusive of your centralized robbery. That's why you invent and spread nonsense as measures that of course fix nothing ... to keep DASH volatile and keep raiding it while you sweep away more members of the casting community, in this case, the miners.

You have done it before with thousands of microholders, possibly many of them from Venezuela or other countries where gathering 10 DASH is a dream ... systematically blocking the promised Shared Mnodes, scam demagogues! ... today, the miners ... and tomorrow, who knows? Mnodes whose isolated vote is worth NOTHING ?

Go give a thanks to the rollercoaster cart who sure has already uploaded Mason to tweeter to catch the savings of naive new fools, like every time they pump it 10 $ ... and, already, in passing, tell Valenzuela to send some trolls with at least three figures of IQ, come on ... we get bored with schoolgirls.  

[MasterMined710]

Having been in this thread longer than most, I can tell you that it's always a bullish sign for Dash when the hangry concern trolls emerge from their caves. 

Don't feed the trolls! 

[Tungi17]

Dash in partnership with Churchʼs Chicken: 800 transactions and 400 new digital wallets in 4 days

https://medium.com/@giorgiom92/dash-in-partnership-with-church%CA%BCs-chicken-800-transactions-and-400-new-digital-wallets-in-4-days-70af1d1bd100

[JollyGood]

It is so simple, it is called the ignore option which has been discussed before 

Some users in this thread have created so much fantasy they have destroyed the ambience and flow hence why so many users have stopped posting here altogether or post only rarely. Watching the regular handful of users posting incoherent and failed ideologies trying to change the mindset of others really does test the patience.

How to filter through all that noise ?  

Edit : never mind, i found the solution.  

[xkcdd]

It is appears as of just now the DASH network is enforcing the new protocol version on the Masternodes with the sudden enablement of 'Spork 21'

Code:

{
  "SPORK_2_INSTANTSEND_ENABLED": true,
  "SPORK_3_INSTANTSEND_BLOCK_FILTERING": true,
  "SPORK_9_SUPERBLOCKS_ENABLED": true,
  "SPORK_17_QUORUM_DKG_ENABLED": true,
  "SPORK_19_CHAINLOCKS_ENABLED": true,
  "SPORK_21_QUORUM_ALL_CONNECTED": true,
  "SPORK_22_PS_MORE_PARTICIPANTS": false
}

The impact will be to progressively PoSe ban non-compliant nodes in the coming hours (hunger strike).  You can watch the nodes starve on this page https://mnowatch.org/legacynodes/ that lists them all.

X Greeting.

[toknormal]

The impact will be to progressively PoSe ban non-compliant nodes in the coming hours (hunger strike).  You can watch the nodes starve on this page https://mnowatch.org/legacynodes/ that lists them all.

Actually there is a potential positive impact of the reward split which is that it may help to turn Dash into something of a "stablecoin". This would help with adoption in terms of use as a "spending currency".

The reward is almost evenly split between operators with variable costs (which increase with price) and operators with fixed cost (which don't). As price rises therefore an increasing tension between these two groups is set up with an asymmetric propensity for profit taking as profitability rises amongst fixed-cost holders way out of proportion to those with variable costs.

As the market acts to re-price these excessive profits (as it always does) the price will snap back till they're reconciled again, thereby serving to stabilise the valuation at a level where profit margins are at or near parity. This prevents excessive price deflation (e.g. of chicken nuggets) and mitigates hoarding which is exactly what you want with a spending currency.

Nice ! I think I've found something about Spork 21 I can get behind and promote at last.

[qwizzie]

Does this mean you will now stop with your hunger strike toknormal ?

For those planning to upgrade (or end their hunger strike  ) : https://github.com/dashpay/dash/pull/3818
This indicates a hotfix is on the way. I expect an official announcement about this soon.

Edit : Bitcoin price just hit $17,000 (15.5% to go for Bitcoin, to establish a new ATH)

[xkcdd]

Nice ! I think I've found something about Spork 21 I can get behind and promote at last.

That's great, Tok.  I am happy to hear it!   

X Greeting.

[birdonthewire]

Nice ! I think I've found something about Spork 21 I can get behind and promote at last.

"He who does not console himself is because he does not want to"...and there, each one is free, of course.

Three pump & dumps with no real wealth backing to face them ... and they leave the coin like a shivering skeleton.

The equilibrium is not built on a basis of adoption or internal remuneration of the system, not even - directly - on an inflation by emissions ... but on a TREMENDOUS speculative sector. That is the scenario that determines price discovery in crypto.

The rest, aspirin for cancer.

[birdonthewire]

I leave a post on the Uncensored DASH Reddit that may fit well here (in the DASH Official, they remove the Karma points so that the public cannot see them, so, the mods themselves filter which messages can appear and which cannot - without insults or anything like that, pure conceptual screening -):

https://www.reddit.com/r/DashUncensored/comments/jq3v1l/improve_proposal_system_competing_proposals/





"The big fish eats the little one.



Yesterday on BTC Talk, a DashTROLLKDiscord troll boasted of being able to control the power of miners and sweep them off the network (it involved an undoubted objective fact in "libertarian" intentions: That the Mnodes network can marginalize, in a "presumably" decentralized structure , members, and even proactive DASH collectives of any level of involvement).

There is a great parallel there with respect to the famous funding of the infamous intoxicating pit DASH NEWS to officially "marginalize trolls" (trolls who themselves decided who they were, of course ... and therefore, it was simply trampling dissent in DASH with charge to the common treasury. Censorship financed in the paradise of "resistance to censorship").



- The first objective was the microholders ... burying and blocking the shared Mnodes devised by Evan Duffield. The modest possessions of these people were deprived of value by denying them integration into the incentive system that drives the project (rewards and votes) - The famous "community" that does not exist ... that ceased to exist in that context - .



- Now, the miners: With the risk of centralization of mining (certain risk), a letter of authority is given to marginalize them from the distributions (remember that Taylor's original exposition of the "reserve of value that never was and never will be" he had a POS option for DASH (which he later tried to deny himself, already late) ... that is, he not only launched an obvious threat of marginalization to an essential group in DASH, the miners ... but he invited it to marginalize - he just "opened his eyes" and put them in the center of the target - the others, of course ... "stole for its plate" -. Nobody becomes bitter by a candy.



What is absolutely evident is that large DASH holders can, by sheer inertia and "excess ammunition", take advantage of hypes to expand their positions (modest Mnodes owners assume a huge risk by selling positions in an uptrend, since in In case of error, they would leave the decision and rewards scopes of the system ... but large owners can make partial sales without assuming that risk. Partial sales that allow them to amplify positions by whole units or dozens of Mnodes ... which minimizes the power of decision of the "modest" Mnodes every day).



Likewise, those who liquidate dozens of Mnodes to fiat in bullish peaks like the current one, can perfectly spend YEARS of the bear market recharging cheaply ... while members with one or two Mnodes regret not having sold up and see their investment literally disappear in fiat terms ... with the consequent financial effort, wear and tear and sales spirit.

Thus, DASH's centralized power and incentive structure leads to progressive concentration. The whales will always grow ... and the modest Mnodes will fight to retain their positions - although those positions will be diluted proportionately: Their asses are sold under the whims of the whales when they have sufficient voting power -



And thus the modest Mnodes, many of whom arrogantly believed themselves to be DASH's "elite" a year or two ago on social media ... see their voting power not only diluted ... but their position it remains at the expense of any "majority" decision - scrutinized by DASH's "5000 point" decentralization fallacy, which progressively favors centralization of governance.



And that they stop collecting or voting, for example (RTaylor periodically insists that more than 5000 Mnodes is not advisable for the NETWORK) ... it is as possible as fucking the miners today ... and their "single" Mnodes are , for the centralized network that tends to become even more concentrated, as expendable as miners are today ... to their own supportive applause.



The incredible thing is that many Mnodes of this profile are directly involved in supporting the financial instability, censorship and centralization of the network promoted, step by step, by the DASH lobbies with large niche coins. And they believe that by making others pay for the consequences of a flawed structure, they are free to be trampled on. They stupidly believe that they are harming others ... when what they harm is the decentralization of a system that is the guarantee of their interests as the sum of individuals that they are. (You have to be really an idiot). They believe that riding the wave of active voting and rewards in DASH is a long-term right, a safe place where they are installed forever, because they have already "passed the cut" - as the miners believed 3 or 4 years ago - ... when belonging to that group depends, every moment, on a simple vote / decision ... that time makes it run against you. Now they are complacent pigs, expansions and collaborators of the worst practices, because their pathetic egocentricity installs them in a personalistic perspective, and they only think that they harm other members ... when what they are vitiating and harming is the network, turning it into an incapable structure to protect the decentralized collective synergy and the general interest of that same network, which is its main leitmotif.



That they are the next fucked up, it's only a matter of time. By the way ... with much more merit than those who have not collaborated to fill DASH with vice and shenanigans against the basic principles that created the project."