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[patrolman]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

While I am not against this, funding development should be everybody's business not masternodes in particular. The foundation site should be ready very soon lets see how the voluntary fundraising goes.

Because we are the "rich" ones in Darkcoin, as such it hurts us less than "normal" dark coin investors, and would prove both our commitment to the coin and our support to the devs.

Why not 5% of MN rewards + foundation site then?

I think Propulsion's suggestion over on DarkcoinTalk hits the nail on the head: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-shadowcash-merger.2918/#post-28446

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[oblox]

If SDC devs are so great why I have not heard of the coin and why they cost $ 0.066? I don't fully understand why we have to merge. Sound like trouble.

I agree, SDC community is sucks.

DRK's dev was after the SDC tech, not the community.

It certainly wasn't for anonymity, we already have that.

[roede94105]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

While I am not against this, funding development should be everybody's business not masternodes in particular. The foundation site should be ready very soon lets see how the voluntary fundraising goes.

Because we are the "rich" ones in Darkcoin, as such it hurts us less than "normal" dark coin investors, and would prove both our commitment to the coin and our support to the devs.

Why not 5% of MN rewards + foundation site then?

I think Propulsion's suggestion over on DarkcoinTalk hits the nail on the head: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-shadowcash-merger.2918/#post-28446

Could be a solution, although when it's donation based, you get the free rider issue.

Still a potential solution, and I would 10% them all day

[tungfa]

As the core idea of the merger was to acquire more developers. Let's start drumming up ideas how we can onboard new talent to the darkcoin team. There needs to be some sort of incentive or clever marketing to weed out some of the good devs

I'll happily donate half my MN earnings to a developer fund if devs are needed, and I think they are. As long as it goes to professional devs hired/contracted who have real names and real experience, not some faceless cryptognat clown.

Ideally, I think, funding for developers (if necessary - though I don't think it necessarily should be) would come from foundation funds.  There are problems with relying on voluntary community donations and major issues with siphoning funds from MNs or miners in a non-voluntary manner.

The idea with Shadowcoin was not primarily to gain more devs - that we could do anyway.  It was consolidation, on several fronts.  It's easy to get impatient with waiting for that to happen organically, and I think maybe that's what was driving this idea.  It was exploratory at this point, for what it's worth.  The fact that it leaked says quite a bit.  Better that it happened now I suppose.

Nice to see your around bro.

Seems like the good old days again...  

About funding, I just read this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=849434.0 - half a million $ for a crappy doge app. Have any efforts been made by The Foundation in approaching VC types? Ending up beholden to the paymaster is a big concern, but there are people out there seemingly rabid to throw cash at anything with the vaguest hope of a return... I am surprised that DRK hasn't had big money come knocking on the door yet...

Sweet baby jesus...

No, although I imagine it won't be difficult should we decide to do so given the contacts of a couple of our board members.

Eltito is Back !
nice one !

I told you ... that little life form will take EVERYTHING over !! ....>

[toknormal]

What's this all about ? Shadow coin saying "no" to Evan ?

EDIT: Ah ! Fox news !

Do people realise that DRK is going to get painted into the "funding nasty terrorist" sector by Fox News? I suppose any publicity is good publicity is the view that the market's taking.

[patrolman]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

While I am not against this, funding development should be everybody's business not masternodes in particular. The foundation site should be ready very soon lets see how the voluntary fundraising goes.

Because we are the "rich" ones in Darkcoin, as such it hurts us less than "normal" dark coin investors, and would prove both our commitment to the coin and our support to the devs.

Why not 5% of MN rewards + foundation site then?

I think Propulsion's suggestion over on DarkcoinTalk hits the nail on the head: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-shadowcash-merger.2918/#post-28446

Could be a solution, although when it's donation based, you get the free rider issue.

Still a potential solution, and I would 10% them all day

The beauty of it is that it doesn't seem like it wouldn't be too hard to implement, users can set how much they would be willing to donate and payments would be automatically deducted from Masternode payments. And to quote the last line: "It would also have to be defaulted to 0. You can not force people to donate."

[Jestah]

What's this all about ? Shadow coin saying "no" to Evan ?

Yeah I wondered that too after I read that statement.

[Jesse Livermore]

Shit, well I'm an idiot.

[dihydrogenmonoxide]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

While I am not against this, funding development should be everybody's business not masternodes in particular. The foundation site should be ready very soon lets see how the voluntary fundraising goes.

Because we are the "rich" ones in Darkcoin, as such it hurts us less than "normal" dark coin investors, and would prove both our commitment to the coin and our support to the devs.

Why not 5% of MN rewards + foundation site then?

I think Propulsion's suggestion over on DarkcoinTalk hits the nail on the head: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-shadowcash-merger.2918/#post-28446

Could be a solution, although when it's donation based, you get the free rider issue.

Still a potential solution, and I would 10% them all day

The beauty of it is that it doesn't seem like it wouldn't be too hard to implement , users can set how much they would be willing to donate and payments would be automatically deducted from Masternode payments. And to quote the last line: "It would also have to be defaulted to 0. You can not force people to donate."

It does not work that easy: masternode payments are done by miners, not the masternode itself. There is no way how the miner can know how much of the payment should be donated.

[eduffield]

I just got multiple masternodes to form consensus and lock inputs. Afterwards I tried to spend the same inputs for a higher fee, which failed! The whole thing literally took 2 seconds to lock the transaction in place (in my local environment, very small). Works!

2014-11-07 01:13:18 ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs()::InstantX : invalid transaction, conflicts with existing transaction lock CTxIn(COutPoint(365de7e2831dc8b85c2c94fef5f2b98e86a95e301879c5b3460db69df757deb9, 0), scriptSig=3046022100e2ca0a35ab1373)

[tungfa]

What is the deal with that FOX show ?!
Is evan invited there ??
Sorry , just got up ....>

[oblox]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

My solution would be automatic - if it can be done.....

70% Miner
25% MN
5% Dev

You're still taking from miners...

[thelonecrouton]

I just got multiple masternodes to form consensus, lock inputs, literally took 2 seconds to lock the transaction in place... then I tried to spend the same inputs for a higher fee. Works!

2014-11-07 01:13:18 ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs()::InstantX : invalid transaction, conflicts with existing transaction lock CTxIn(COutPoint(365de7e2831dc8b85c2c94fef5f2b98e86a95e301879c5b3460db69df757deb9, 0), scriptSig=3046022100e2ca0a35ab1373)

Boss you worded that a bit confusingly...

[Minotaur26]

I just got multiple masternodes to form consensus, lock inputs, literally took 2 seconds to lock the transaction in place... then I tried to spend the same inputs for a higher fee. Works!

2014-11-07 01:13:18 ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs()::InstantX : invalid transaction, conflicts with existing transaction lock CTxIn(COutPoint(365de7e2831dc8b85c2c94fef5f2b98e86a95e301879c5b3460db69df757deb9, 0), scriptSig=3046022100e2ca0a35ab1373)

This is history in the making! Congratz bro!

[UdjinM6]

GUYS PLEASE

I know it's all about the FOX news and all the great things happening,
but I'd like to remind you that we have to find a solution to reward our current awesome devs and to hire new ones.

As an owner of some Masternodes, I'd be willing to have 10% of my MN reward s go towards paying them.

A company pays its employees, we should pay our devs to ensure their commitment and the project's perennity.

I know that some will say "if they believe in their coin, then investing in it and developing it should be enough".

While they might be right, I think, especially in order to avoid the kind of situation we saw with a potentient coin merging, it would be a good solution to ask MN owners for a little reward effort.

Please let's discuss this.

Regards,

My solution would be automatic - if it can be done.....

70% Miner
25% MN
5% Dev

I'm strictly against fixed donation in any amount:
- it looks like pre-mine
- the word donation means a gift (free)

[Minotaur26]

Instant Transactions are working on private testing, confirmation took 2seconds(literally). Hopefully public testing will start soon.

[Ignition75]

If I wake up to good news I'm going to throw some hashes at the official pool for a good old fashioned Stonehedge celebratory mining session.

I'll join you  

Just caught up on the news, SDC, didn't see that one coming.

If it's any consolation I know their UI and Design guy very well, we worked together in a past life, he's a top bloke and very talented...

[whocares]

LOL We are third by CNY volume on bter   .

[UdjinM6]

I just got multiple masternodes to form consensus, lock inputs, literally took 2 seconds to lock the transaction in place... then I tried to spend the same inputs for a higher fee. Works!

2014-11-07 01:13:18 ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs()::InstantX : invalid transaction, conflicts with existing transaction lock CTxIn(COutPoint(365de7e2831dc8b85c2c94fef5f2b98e86a95e301879c5b3460db69df757deb9, 0), scriptSig=3046022100e2ca0a35ab1373)

Awesome! Can't wait to read white paper and to try this in testnet!  

EDIT: Are we going to ask for security audit by Kristov Atlas once again?

[Cryptosis]

Darkcoin has almost double the volume of litecoin right now. Moving back up. When dark price evens out with litecoins price how long do you think it will take before people dump loads of lite for dark? I would love to see that