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June 18, 2014, 10:45:44 PM
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Thank you so much for providing this service; great work.

Quick question: Currently, the "node uptime" is 2 hours and 20 minutes. Did the service go down 2 hours and 20 minutes ago, and if so, why didn't the load balancing keep the service up and running?

Thanks again for providing such an easy way for miners to join p2pool.

Great catch!

I recently updated the P2Pool software of each server in the cluster. Previously our uptime was 50+ days on most servers. However, that also means those servers were running code that was more than 50 days old. One-by-one, each server was taken out of the load balancer pool, updated, tested, and then put back in. I can assure you there was no downtime during this process.

The stats on the pool homepage are combined stats. However the "Node Uptime" value is not combined. Otherwise, if the entire cluster was up for 7 days, that value would read 7 days x the number of servers. Perhaps I can add support in for this to take an average value?

Thanks so much for the explanation. One quick follow up: The displayed graph shows that the hashrate fell to zero. How does that comport with there being no downtime during the upgrade?
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June 18, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
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Thanks so much for the explanation. One quick follow up: The displayed graph shows that the hashrate fell to zero. How does that comport with there being no downtime during the upgrade?

I'm still in the process of restoring the stats for all of the nodes since upgrading. Stay tuned!
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June 19, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
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All nodes have now been updated!
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June 22, 2014, 03:38:03 PM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!
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June 24, 2014, 04:27:33 AM
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First post has been updated. We now officially support custom user-defined difficulty settings!
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June 27, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!
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June 27, 2014, 06:00:11 PM
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Seems like something's wrong:

[2014-06-15 11:49:53] Accepted 01686b83 Diff 46.5K/1000 BAJ 0
[2014-06-15 11:53:12] Accepted 2980ecd3 Diff 1.58K/1000 BAJ 0


Node updated: 2014-06-15 12:02:15

0.00 H/s   0.00%   no shares yet

There were no blocks between 11:44 and 12:04.
So, those stats are fishy.


The node operator didn't answer this so I will, p2pool issues pseudo shares.  Those shares are purely for keeping track of your hash rate and making graphs look pretty.  To get a payout from p2pool, you need to enter the p2pool sharechain which works like the btc blockchain.  The minimum difficulty share to get into the sharechain for the past month at least has been over 1m.  Actually as I'm writing this post, the current difficulty to get into the sharechain 1,197,521.57.  if you go to p2pool.io and look @ share difficulty it'll tell you what you miner needs to submit at any moment to get into the sharechain as it updates with each share that's added to keep the sharetime at 30 seconds.  So based on what I saw here, if you log showed 1.2M/1000 BAJ 0 then I'd be a little concerned, but like the bitcoin share chain, latency can play a role too. If you submit a share a second too late or the pool decides to orphan your share for another submitted at the same time, that could cause you to also be showing now shares yet.  If you look at the stats page at p2pool.io and find your address, you want your DOA% to be at or below the global pools DOA%, because that'll decrease your chances of submitting a dead share.  I hope this helped explain this.

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June 27, 2014, 06:56:16 PM
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Seems like something's wrong:

[2014-06-15 11:49:53] Accepted 01686b83 Diff 46.5K/1000 BAJ 0
[2014-06-15 11:53:12] Accepted 2980ecd3 Diff 1.58K/1000 BAJ 0


Node updated: 2014-06-15 12:02:15

0.00 H/s   0.00%   no shares yet

There were no blocks between 11:44 and 12:04.
So, those stats are fishy.


The node operator didn't answer this so I will, p2pool issues pseudo shares.  Those shares are purely for keeping track of your hash rate and making graphs look pretty.  To get a payout from p2pool, you need to enter the p2pool sharechain which works like the btc blockchain.  The minimum difficulty share to get into the sharechain for the past month at least has been over 1m.  Actually as I'm writing this post, the current difficulty to get into the sharechain 1,197,521.57.  if you go to p2pool.io and look @ share difficulty it'll tell you what you miner needs to submit at any moment to get into the sharechain as it updates with each share that's added to keep the sharetime at 30 seconds.  So based on what I saw here, if you log showed 1.2M/1000 BAJ 0 then I'd be a little concerned, but like the bitcoin share chain, latency can play a role too. If you submit a share a second too late or the pool decides to orphan your share for another submitted at the same time, that could cause you to also be showing now shares yet.  If you look at the stats page at p2pool.io and find your address, you want your DOA% to be at or below the global pools DOA%, because that'll decrease your chances of submitting a dead share.  I hope this helped explain this.

I completely missed this!

"The real P2Pool difficulty is hundreds of times higher than on normal pools, but p2pool essentially lies to your miner and tells it to work on relatively easy shares so that it submits shares every few seconds instead of every few hours. P2Pool then ignores any submitted shares that don't match the real share difficulty. By doing this, P2Pool can more accurately report your local hash rate and you can see if you are having problems with too many stale shares quickly".
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool

Short answer: Just because your client shows "Accepted", doesn't mean the share was actually accepted as a valid P2Pool share.
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July 05, 2014, 02:03:21 AM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!
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July 17, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
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P2Pool hits 1 PH/s! In celebration, join us at p2pool.io! A zero fee, load balanced, P2Pool cluster!

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July 31, 2014, 04:28:22 PM
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To the top!
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August 20, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
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To the top!
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August 20, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
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P2Pool hits 3.2 PH/s!

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September 02, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
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p2pool.io is contemplating on adding support for altcoins. Which altcoins would you like P2Pool nodes for?
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September 05, 2014, 02:56:56 PM
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Anyone interested in Altcoin support?
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October 02, 2014, 07:21:10 PM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!
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November 03, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!
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November 25, 2014, 12:12:53 AM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!

Hey Acejam, thanks for all your hard work! I've been in the pool for a day or so, and I understand (somewhat) how the payouts work, at least well enough to know to be patient. I did, however, notice that the predicted payout for me seems to fluctuate up & down. Is there a reason for that, or am I just misinterpreting? Thanks again.

Edit: I suppose the better question would be, is it worth it for me to mine via P2Pool with 1.6 TH, or even 2.6 TH? Open to any help/suggestions.
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November 30, 2014, 02:21:24 AM
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Come mine with us @ p2pool.io today!

Hey Acejam, thanks for all your hard work! I've been in the pool for a day or so, and I understand (somewhat) how the payouts work, at least well enough to know to be patient. I did, however, notice that the predicted payout for me seems to fluctuate up & down. Is there a reason for that, or am I just misinterpreting? Thanks again.

Edit: I suppose the better question would be, is it worth it for me to mine via P2Pool with 1.6 TH, or even 2.6 TH? Open to any help/suggestions.

Paymnent fluctuation with P2Pool is normal. If you have over 1 TH/s, I think it would be well worth your time to mine with P2Pool. Many users have tracked their progress over time and P2Pool consistently comes out on top with the highest payouts over time. However, payouts occur less often due to variance, so it's a trade off.
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December 13, 2014, 07:08:16 PM
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Thanks AceJam! I appreciate your response.  Based on your recommendations, and others, I've decided to P2Pool mine to a node a bit closer to me physically.
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