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Author Topic: Alternative Block Chains : be safe!  (Read 1337480 times)
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October 27, 2017, 10:42:39 AM
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The internet is not built on alternation networks its built on layers.
We need this in the crypto space.
Layers of blockchains.

@ The Abacas Exchange we call them clusters ... not really a layer but conceptually similar
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October 27, 2017, 10:53:53 AM
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How can you prove that transactions are safe?

This is comprised of a number of elements as I am sure you already know - transparency of the public code with strong third party analysis ... ethical hacking to examine the veracity ... hackathons  ... without that I would hesitate to invest or use ... a lot of vaporware ... also the mining technique ... in our view PoW is best for security but creates scalability and cost issues ... PoS is the logical alternative [see ETH fork] ... safer if the network is at critical mass and less so with nascent chains ... control over the chain is the key ... next issue is control of the cryptocurrency or cryptoasset ... take a look at the abacas exchange as the dev is driven by the concerns that you have - building a better mousetrap Smiley
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October 27, 2017, 02:12:22 PM
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The point is always ensuring safety in all transactions. There are alternative block chains really are coming out and many altcoins are also out in ICOs and Airdrops, but this things are always at our own risk. It is always up to us on how how we comprehend on whats going on with the market that we are into.
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October 27, 2017, 07:54:21 PM
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The point is always ensuring safety in all transactions. There are alternative block chains really are coming out and many altcoins are also out in ICOs and Airdrops, but this things are always at our own risk. It is always up to us on how how we comprehend on whats going on with the market that we are into.

Yes that's complitely true we need to truly understand on the market we are dealing on !!
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October 27, 2017, 10:37:42 PM
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Some people only have one computer and that must suck. Fortunately I have multiple so I can use some of my alt-miners to do this safely.
yes, I only have one computer but to secure it we make a complicated password and often replace it maybe it's one way

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October 29, 2017, 06:29:24 AM
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Before you invest in any alternative blockchain - RTFWP!
Read The F Whitepaper! Smiley
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October 29, 2017, 09:45:56 AM
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nice advise
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October 29, 2017, 03:28:06 PM
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Some people only have one computer and that must suck. Fortunately I have multiple so I can use some of my alt-miners to do this safely.

That's a good piece of information.

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October 29, 2017, 04:31:06 PM
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Some people only have one computer and that must suck. Fortunately I have multiple so I can use some of my alt-miners to do this safely.

That's a good piece of information.

Cool ................  Grin
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November 01, 2017, 01:21:52 AM
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So, how about a decentralized regulator for all these blockchain ? In other industries we have "standards" bodies. Why not such a thing here ?
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November 01, 2017, 12:21:24 PM
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A new cryptocurrency gives us the opportunity to achieve something greater because each project behind it is bringing something new in this world. I think more altcoins is better to us to invest coin, cause BTC is so expensive Sad
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November 03, 2017, 07:30:00 AM
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No one is immune from losing money. You have to be careful when working with crypto-currencies. There are many risk factors.
the more crypto the more risk. and it is more difficult to store safely

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November 03, 2017, 07:49:00 AM
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No one is immune from losing money. You have to be careful when working with crypto-currencies. There are many risk factors.
the more crypto the more risk. and it is more difficult to store safely

That's true !!!
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November 03, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
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First of all, big thank goes to Mr Gavin Andersen Smiley. You have explained important things here that we should consider.
In my opinion,
Nothing is permanent, Roll Eyes Every one who lives on world have lost many thing already, It couldn't be changed. The only thing we can do
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there for no need to hesitate Wink to doing this but do it carefully.

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November 03, 2017, 06:57:12 PM
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I haven't seen anybody post about what would be my biggest worry if I were trying out alternative block chains. I realize this may be perceived as "Gavin is FUD'ding anything that isn't bitcoin!"  (FUD == Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt)  But I think some of you might be forgetting some basic computer security fundamentals in the excitement to be early adopters.

When I first heard about bitcoin, my questions were:

1) Can it possibly work (do the ideas for how it works make sense)?
2) Is it a scam?
3) If it is not a scam, could it open my computer up to viruses/trojans if I run it?

I answered those questions by:

1) Reading and understanding Satoshi's whitepaper.  Then thinking about it for a day or two and reading it again.
2) Finding out everything I could about the project.  I read every forum thread here (there were probably under a hundred threads back then) and read Satoshi's initial postings on the crypto mailing list.
3) Downloaded and skimmed the source code to see if it looked vulnerable to buffer overflow or other remotely exploitable attacks.

If I were going to experiment with an alternative block-chain, I'd go through the same process again. But I'm an old conservative fuddy-duddy.

If you want to take a risk on a brand-new alternative block-chain, I'd strongly suggest that you:

1) Run the software in a virtual machine or on a machine that doesn't contain anything valuable.
2) Don't invest more money or time than you can afford to lose.
3) Use a different passphrase at every exchange site.



To this I would summarize not to invest fiat money or BTC
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November 04, 2017, 12:07:29 AM
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So, how about a decentralized regulator for all these blockchain ? In other industries we have "standards" bodies. Why not such a thing here ?

You can't just put "decentralized' and 'regulator' in one sentence. It beats the purpose of it being called decentralized, in short That doesnt make sense. The very thing about these cryptocurrencies is that no one can hsve control over it except you yourselves who have control over your wallets.

On the other hand, I have nothing against alt blockchains. Instead just like most people here, they love it. Take for example ETN and the upcoming UTN. New blockchains indeed but what can they offer? =)
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November 04, 2017, 11:01:44 PM
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I haven't seen anybody post about what would be my biggest worry if I were trying out alternative block chains. I realize this may be perceived as "Gavin is FUD'ding anything that isn't bitcoin!"  (FUD == Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt)  But I think some of you might be forgetting some basic computer security fundamentals in the excitement to be early adopters.

When I first heard about bitcoin, my questions were:

1) Can it possibly work (do the ideas for how it works make sense)?
2) Is it a scam?
3) If it is not a scam, could it open my computer up to viruses/trojans if I run it?

I answered those questions by:

1) Reading and understanding Satoshi's whitepaper.  Then thinking about it for a day or two and reading it again.
2) Finding out everything I could about the project.  I read every forum thread here (there were probably under a hundred threads back then) and read Satoshi's initial postings on the crypto mailing list.
3) Downloaded and skimmed the source code to see if it looked vulnerable to buffer overflow or other remotely exploitable attacks.

If I were going to experiment with an alternative block-chain, I'd go through the same process again. But I'm an old conservative fuddy-duddy.

If you want to take a risk on a brand-new alternative block-chain, I'd strongly suggest that you:

1) Run the software in a virtual machine or on a machine that doesn't contain anything valuable.
2) Don't invest more money or time than you can afford to lose.
3) Use a different passphrase at every exchange site.


The alternative block chain must be safe because it has been a source of income to many people. This alternative block chain has already helped so many people and from that it has been a very good help to everyone. Knowing that this block chain has provided financial needs of the people.

Safe in blockchain is very important. If there is a security weakness, the system will disappear completely.
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November 05, 2017, 09:53:23 PM
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However, blockchains of the future (or networks that will replace blockchain) are still yet to come. Many restrictions of current blockchains need to be overcome to scale efficiently.
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November 06, 2017, 08:11:50 AM
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Bitcoin and all kind of money blockchains are risky things in some extent. Risk one of the business feature.
If you want wipe out all risks of your life then do nothing. Blockchains are not scam, it work. But you must to be competent in the questions of security.
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November 06, 2017, 03:07:10 PM
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Some people only have one computer and that must suck. Fortunately I have multiple so I can use some of my alt-miners to do this safely.

People with only one computer can still securely isolate different wallets & apps from each other by using privilege separation. For example on Linux, run bitcoin/namecoin/i0coin/etc under separate user accounts, and chmod 700 their home directories.

And what about Windows or Mac?
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