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February 01, 2014, 02:04:22 AM
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When is ethereum available for purchase?
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February 01, 2014, 02:06:14 AM
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I got a windows binary running. - I will try to port it to my other pc if it works I will post the .exe here.

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February 01, 2014, 02:08:26 AM
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People seem to be posting all of these instructions, yet if they succeed it is not hard to upload binaries.
I've tried compiling, and all I get is a consistant error, about cll.exe not having 64-bit support implemented.

I'm on Windows 7 x64.

Would someone mind taking the very basic step of uploading their successful results?
I'm sure many of us would be appreciative.
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February 01, 2014, 02:12:02 AM
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People seem to be posting all of these instructions, yet if they succeed it is not hard to upload binaries.
I've tried compiling, and all I get is a consistant error, about cll.exe not having 64-bit support implemented.

I'm on Windows 7 x64.

Would someone mind taking the very basic step of uploading their successful results?
I'm sure many of us would be appreciative.

Windows source OR binaries are not yet available. We'll announce on our blog as soon as they are.

Ethereum Twitter: @ethereumproject - Blog: blog.ethereum.org - Forum: forum.ethereum.org - Github: github.com/ethereum
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February 01, 2014, 02:14:08 AM
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People seem to be posting all of these instructions, yet if they succeed it is not hard to upload binaries.
I've tried compiling, and all I get is a consistant error, about cll.exe not having 64-bit support implemented.

I'm on Windows 7 x64.

Would someone mind taking the very basic step of uploading their successful results?
I'm sure many of us would be appreciative.

I had the same problem - you are using 64 bit go instead of 32 bit go.  64 bit is broken - unistall then reinstall 32 bit go and you have to reinstall git.

I have not been able to get my .exe working on a separate computer yet which is why I am not posting it.
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February 01, 2014, 02:21:42 AM
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People seem to be posting all of these instructions, yet if they succeed it is not hard to upload binaries.
I've tried compiling, and all I get is a consistant error, about cll.exe not having 64-bit support implemented.

I'm on Windows 7 x64.

Would someone mind taking the very basic step of uploading their successful results?
I'm sure many of us would be appreciative.

Windows source OR binaries are not yet available. We'll announce on our blog as soon as they are.

Then what is it that I am compiling here? github.com/ethereum/go-ethereum

I have a working executable on the system I built it on.
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February 01, 2014, 02:31:49 AM
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Is there an IRC channel for devs?
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February 01, 2014, 02:36:19 AM
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I want to know the answer to this as well. Yes LeoC is a huge scammer and all around asshole, I get that. What I don't get is why is it ok to completely ignore this valid question solely on that basis? Will just like to let you know, that as a new user, the response to his post didn't have a positive effect on me. I have 5 BTC that I want to invest into something, but everywhere I go there is always something that just doesn't feel right, Ethereum included. So it's no longer the scammer asking the question, it's me. Also I have absolutely no problem with the IPO+premine. The amount of work that the developers have put into this deserves to be rewarded. Also which other developers publicly speak about their cryptocurrency at conventions? Exactly. Look how small Vitalik is, if it ended up being a scam, which is very unlikely, one punch by a disgruntled convention goer would put him in a coma. Besides the nagging issue about security I'm almost convinced to buy into Ethereum.

As a cryptographer, security is pretty much the thing that consumes me on a daily basis. We are currently focused on streamlining the development process, onboarding devs and getting overall operations efficient. Once we are on some better PMS systems and have everyone SCRUMed, I'll be building a security team to start the long process of developing the sandbox with me.

We follow checklist driven development in a certain respect thus events must occur prior to the value chain being released. On the security side, a full pre and post code audit, pen test bounties and exploration of many different security models from running the sandbox on a VM like Docker to things like signed contracts. We are early in the process and thus have the freedom and resources to explore many options. The good news is that java, .net and V8 have provided many great lessons to us new projects not having the indignity of legacy code and we are working hard to include the community in the development process. 

Thank you, so when can I throw money at you guys?
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February 01, 2014, 02:50:06 AM
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I installed the client and miner. Does mining actually doing anything at this point? It just keeps printing out "nonce found" really fast. This reminds me of mining for another coin I saw recently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430295.0

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February 01, 2014, 03:00:53 AM
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so am i able to mine this?
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February 01, 2014, 03:02:26 AM
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I installed the client and miner. Does mining actually doing anything at this point? It just keeps printing out "nonce found" really fast. This reminds me of mining for another coin I saw recently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430295.0

where can i find the client download link?
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February 01, 2014, 03:39:32 AM
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I have been looking and can't find anything to answer my question, even though it's buried somewhere I'm sure. Can anyone just tell me when I can by ether, or if I already can?

It may be 2-6 weeks away.  keep checking on http://www.ethereum.org/
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February 01, 2014, 04:05:37 AM
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so am i able to mine this?

Not yet, but when it releases, yes.


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February 01, 2014, 04:08:13 AM
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I got the client off github by following toben's guide:

For Windows  -- http://ethereum-miner.tumblr.com/post/75200252875/windows-ethereum-client
For OSX   --  http://ethereum-miner.tumblr.com/post/75201773371/osx-guide-to-installing-and-compiling-a-binary-for-osx
For Linux (Ubuntu) -- http://ethereum-miner.tumblr.com/post/75205573886/linux-ubuntu-install-guide

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February 01, 2014, 05:20:54 AM
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So when can we mine it?  Huh
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February 01, 2014, 05:29:50 AM
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So when can we mine it?  Huh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=428589.msg4868352#msg4868352


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February 01, 2014, 06:40:39 AM
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For OSX: All was going well until the end of Step 5

cd ./bin
-bash: cd: ./bin: No such file or directory

What can it be?  Huh
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February 01, 2014, 06:44:55 AM
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This was posted on a Reddit/Ethereum thread earlier.  Are you f...in kidding me?  This has to be one of the most condescending statements by one of the Ethereum team members that I have seen so far.  And goes to show you how far out of touch they are with REALITY.

This comment is so full of HUBRIS and GREED.  I cant believe he wrote this and actually believes a word of it.

NOBODY and I mean NOBODY on here is against them becoming millionaires and earning their keep.  

What we are asking for is is a fair structure of the fundraiser that rewards early investors with some upside, since WE (the early adopters) are bearing ALL the risk, while the founders can still get rich and make millions.  Just a fair balance.  There is reward that is fair and balanced and this is not it.

He is trying to put this fundraiser into a narrative that he has bills to pay and needs to support a child.  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WTF, they are trying to make millions from the fundraiser, have the potential to make hundreds of millions from their shares, PLUS get a salary that will probably triple the smartest devs at GOOGLE.  The best and brightest devs at Google probably only get paid $200-300K.

This guy must think we are all stupid.  I cant stop laughing at his comment.  Read this.

[–]texture 2 points 1 hour ago
1) I don't see how this follows.
2) I am not personally wealthy enough to make any meaningful financial contribution to the fundraiser. Neither are many of the core members.
3) Again, the core members are not all millionaires looking to get rich quick. We have bills to pay - I personally have a child on the way. We need to be paid the same as anyone else who does a job or starts a company. It's standard practice that those who start a company own some percentage of it, and generally a much larger chunk than the founders of ethereum are getting. Our company happens to have built into it a currency which can act as shares of an IPO. Because it exists in the lineage of Bitcoin this is difficult for people to understand. It is difficult for us to fully understand the implications of and we are attempting to be as transparent as possible.
4) Again, many of us are not in a position to invest any significant amount of money and we would end up owning a small fraction of the technology we helped bring to life.
Criticism is fine - we are attempting to maintain a dialogue, but we are not some sort of evil masterminds as some are claiming. We're attempting to build this technology for the people - while navigating uncharted territory.
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February 01, 2014, 06:49:29 AM
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Lets put the fundraiser in simple terms that everyone can understand. Everyone should agree that all investments should have a proper risk/reward ratio. This project itself has a lot of risk and potentially a lot of reward, so neither can outweigh the other. Now lets look at this objectively from that perspective.

Ethereum project;
Risk = Very High
Reward = Very High

Founders;
Risk = 0%
Reward=100%

Early adopters;
Risk = 100%
Reward = ?

Put that on a graph. Does that seem like a fair transaction to you?

Just look at the risk/reward ratio and it is way out of line, bordering on insanity. Hubris and Greed comes to mind. If you were the world's greatest cook and asked a venture capitalist or businessman to fund your new restaurant, Guess who makes the most money? Whoever takes the most risk. That's the guy who is paying for the risk out of his own pocket. It's been that way since the beginning of time. Granted, if you have risked a lot of your time and mental energy, you deserve payment for assuming that risk of your time and potential energy as sweat equity.

This is the only project that I have ever heard of that the founders have no sweat equity, no equity in capital and want all the rewards before the business even opens and then will ask the investment community to fund the entire project before it even starts and assume all of the risk.

The current investment model is appalling and downright thievery of the bitcoin community. Vitalik, please quit trying to instill a sense of fear and demand by constantly bringing up "whales" as an excuse for this model. That's just lame and I can't believe people will fall for that (edit...yes I can believe some people will). We can all guess whose idea and where those tactics were borne from.

They need to offer more ETH per bitcoin, lower the MAX to an acceptable level and therefore the pre-mine. And lower their shares of the coin to a level that doesn't reflect a persona of greed. If they are right and follow through, they can still be multi-millionaires by changing the structure in a way that it is not overly diluted and fair and equitable to early investors. The way it is structured now, they are punishing you for being an early adopter and instantly becoming wealthy without any risk at all.

I feel that if you are going to ask the investment community to fund the entire project sight unseen, then there must be checks and balances of risk/reward for founders and early adopters. This project is NOT a slam dunk, there is immense risk to go along with the rewards they are alluding to. Therefore the founders must take some risk themselves and give opportunity for early adopters to gain reward. ETH is not structured as a positive investment vehicle in its current form
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February 01, 2014, 07:06:55 AM
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When will IPO start?
and When will mine start?


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