[ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - Android wallet launched

[C3ALL]

This is not the fault of the coin dev.

If the owner of a pool can't be bothered to check the official thread for each of the coins they have a pool for once every 48 hours, then they aren't being very responsible imho.

If all the exchanges and other pools manage to update without trying to blame the coin dev then it's pretty easy to see where the fault lies.

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[luke997]

To the several moaning about the update:

You've dropped the ball  face it.
Devs notified everyone and this was only think discussed for the several pages.

Now you come and complain,  where were you when the hash dropped due to multipools rapes to under 0.5Gh from 10Gh?
I was pretty much 15-20% of the hash sticking with through the worst it as I believe in its worth - while most just jumps between the most profitable (at that moment) any other coin.

Bottom line is, the update was necessary and you should be thankful to the devs for hard and swift work, and those who stayed and mined through worst, so now you can mine when it's at the top of coinwarz and make money.

(Rant over, someone had to say this)

[mcg]

keep it down then.

ok, fine

nice attitude considering this is your fault

This is your fault. Dev working hard ro make this coin better, you are pool owner - then make YOUR job and READ thread of coins that you host. READ messages, that dev sent you. STOP complaining, you are making money and this is YOUR JOB.

I'm not going to get in a fight with all of you. The point is, the guy told me it would be 7-10 days. Then he completely reneged on that.

I keep up with my pools. I can't possibly read every message in all threads of all coins that I host.

and your private messages, the one with subject "gravity update 3 fix"?

[ayagle]

please add http://p2p.bingepool.net to op?..   

Updating the leaf coin wallet now..

Up and working great..                     ....      http://p2p.bingepool.net

[splawik21]

After KGW we do the blocks with the speed of light   

[damnation]

keep it down then.

ok, fine

nice attitude considering this is your fault

This is your fault. Dev working hard ro make this coin better, you are pool owner - then make YOUR job and READ thread of coins that you host. READ messages, that dev sent you. STOP complaining, you are making money and this is YOUR JOB.

I'm not going to get in a fight with all of you. The point is, the guy told me it would be 7-10 days. Then he completely reneged on that.

I keep up with my pools. I can't possibly read every message in all threads of all coins that I host.

Listen to be honest there's no real fault in this issue... it was rushed..

But you dint have to read the thread or op just your PM.

i for one am truly appreciative that we have a dev that could implement it so quickly and relatively seemlessly.. heck we even had a crazy cool giveaway system for the update of the new wallet.. 3M shared between all who logged in at that time and confirmed that their wallet was on the right chain..

[roastbeef]

If you guys think that it's prudent to move the fork twice, then you're badly mistaken. It's human nature for someone who has just updated something to give that something less attention for a period of time. If you get your car's brakes fixed, you don't check them again for a while. I updated, and I was told it would be AT LEAST a week until I had to worry about it again.

Pardon me for taking the dev at his word and not checking this thread or paying attention to my PMs over the weekend.

[damnation]

If you guys think that it's prudent to move the fork twice, then you're badly mistaken. It's human nature for someone who has just updated something to give that something less attention for a period of time. If you get your car's brakes fixed, you don't check them again for a while. I updated, and I was told it would be AT LEAST a week until I had to worry about it again.

Pardon me for taking the dev at his word and not checking this thread or paying attention to my PMs over the weekend.

true enough but if you fixed your brakes.. and have the same problem... wouldnt you check it again?

[mcg]

If you guys think that it's prudent to move the fork twice, then you're badly mistaken. It's human nature for someone who has just updated something to give that something less attention for a period of time. If you get your car's brakes fixed, you don't check them again for a while. I updated, and I was told it would be AT LEAST a week until I had to worry about it again.

Pardon me for taking the dev at his word and not checking this thread or paying attention to my PMs over the weekend.

well maybe we are both a bit to blame... me for updating so quickly again ( but community decision and it was required to prevent destruction )... you for not checking your pm in the weekend ( as a pool operator i would expect you to be up to date all the time, like all the other pool owners in here who did it right ).... i dont know in what timezone you are...

anyways, i was even very generous and offered you 200k for your loss... then you say you dont want the coins and care more about your reputation.

currently you are doing more harm to your reputation.... you. need. to. be. up. to. date. allthetime.

[C3ALL]

Circumstances change.  If the multipools hadn't carried on with their incessant raping of the coin, then it would have been a week.

The dev seems to have been effectively blackmailed by middlecoin for them to not kill the coin in these difficulty cycles.

The community here was involved in the decision making process which saw the implementation quicker.  It was all in the open and messages were sent to everyone.

The dev knew that updating so soon after the other was risky, this was one of the points discussed.  But all actions were taken to try and prevent a fork.

If you as a pool owner did not check your PM's for a 48 hour period, then that is not the fault of a dev.   There could be a change being made right now to any one of the other coins you have pools for that requires action within 48 hours, I dont know.  As a pool owner its your responsibility to keep up to date.  Stop trying to aportion blame elsewhere.

If a pool owner cares about their reputation, then they should be checking their PM's and coin threads daily, not just sitting there gathering the fees and trying to blame others when their pool is on the wrong fork.  If you want to run a pool that's taken seriously, then take your responsibility of monitoring messages and coin threads seriously.

[luke997]

Time to move on.

Update was very successful, we got much consistent net hash, no more bad multipools rape and almost everyone updated in time or shortly after.

Devs can get back to foundation work, we can get back to mine/trade/support and grow the coin.

[mcg]

Time to move on.

Update was very successful, we got much consistent net hash, no more bad multipools rape and almost everyone updated in time or shortly after.

Devs can get back to foundation work, we can get back to mine/trade/support and grow the coin.

we'll do...

[Euphonious]

I'm not going to get in a fight with all of you. The point is, the guy told me it would be 7-10 days. Then he completely reneged on that.

Yes, because this coin would have been dead in 7-10 days. Blocks were taking nearly 20 minutes because of the multipools. Nobody was going to mine that for very long. Hashrate was already very low.

This isn't Bitcoin mining - it's cutting edge and often experimental. Plans can and will change. If you're not happy with that then maybe mine something more established.

[splawik21]

FOCUS

IN LESS THAN 10 DAYS WE ARE AIMING NEXT HALVINGS

btw. 2 0 0 0 0 blocks DONE

[patkim]

realize that how greatly dev supporting this coin to be rescued against the mutlipool attack that top of the food chain of crypto world which
some other coins are still exposed vulnerability. And there are still many guys not just hoping actually supporting for this coined to be valued up.
It just obvious you can always get payback as much as you spent your effort even more too!  

  

[aaron_m]

I can confirm the dev did not really want to do gravity 2 or 3 updates and spent hours working out what block to change to each time, but the community wanted it immediatly even after warning of forks and to be honest the miners leaving at high diff gave no other choice, each low diff dip the retarget got longer (nearly 2 days last time) and the hashrate went down further each time, we wouldn't have survived many more dips before the coin failed.  So there was no other choice.

[hzddevil]

Leafcoin calc: http://cryptoage.com

[sakkosekk]

I'm not going to get in a fight with all of you. The point is, the guy told me it would be 7-10 days. Then he completely reneged on that.

Yes, because this coin would have been dead in 7-10 days. Blocks were taking nearly 20 minutes because of the multipools. Nobody was going to mine that for very long. Hashrate was already very low.

This isn't Bitcoin mining - it's cutting edge and often experimental. Plans can and will change. If you're not happy with that then maybe mine something more established.

This a thousand time. I fully understand the problems that have come up, but gambling with the survival of LEAF is just not something we are going to do. mcg did good work as usual.

[kbhutto]

Why LEAF confirmations are sooooooooo slow? (wallet transactions)

[splawik21]

Why LEAF confirmations are sooooooooo slow? (wallet transactions)

what wallet version do u have???