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Author Topic: [Havelock] Bitcoin Difficulty Derivative (BDD)  (Read 290006 times)
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April 26, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
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Period 36, Day 6 Report - April 26, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 139.44663601

Total Units: 80661

NAV/U: BTC 0.00172879
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April 27, 2015, 12:12:04 AM
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ok explain something to me, how is it the "purse" is getting bigger & the daily shares for sell are also increasing?

Don't you need people to buy the shares to increase the purse size?

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April 27, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
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ok explain something to me, how is it the "purse" is getting bigger & the daily shares for sell are also increasing?

Don't you need people to buy the shares to increase the purse size?

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Yes, when people purchase EXCH, they pay for it at the NAV/U plus 3%. Their EXCH unit is then exchanged for one MINE and ONE sell unit and they can sell none, one, or both into the market.

So, even though the total balance is increasing or decreasing, what matters is the Net Asset Value per Unit (NAV/U).
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April 27, 2015, 04:13:56 PM
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Period 36, Day 7 Report - April 27, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 142.45066663

Total Units: 84969

NAV/U: BTC 0.00167650
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April 28, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
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Period 36, Day 8 Report - April 28, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 141.90595814

Total Units: 87384

NAV/U: BTC 0.00162393
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April 29, 2015, 04:14:55 PM
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Period 36, Day 9 Report - April 29, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 149.17160237

Total Units: 94896

NAV/U: BTC 0.00157194
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April 30, 2015, 04:05:01 PM
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Hi how many day of dividend left ?

We are almost on the end no ?
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April 30, 2015, 04:08:53 PM
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Period 36, Day 10 Report - April 30, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 164.56534026

Total Units: 108256

NAV/U: BTC 0.00152014

Hi how many day of dividend left ?

We are almost on the end no ?

You can always calculate the estimated number of dividend days left by dividing the NAV/U by the current dividend level. In today's case .00152014 / .00005281 = ~28.7 Days left of dividends.

The actual number of days left depends on the next 2-3 difficulty changes. I'll be sending out an email at the end of this Period to give a little bit of an overview of how the End-Game will play out (even though it's in the OP, not everyone reads it and I don't want there to be any surprises!)
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May 01, 2015, 06:16:41 AM
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Ok thanks for information.
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May 01, 2015, 04:19:24 PM
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Period 36, Day 11Report - May 1, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 166.56968550

Total Units: 113490

NAV/U: BTC 0.00146770
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May 02, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
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Period 36, Day 12 Report - May 2, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 165.03003305

Total Units: 116621

NAV/U: BTC 0.00141509
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May 03, 2015, 04:05:46 PM
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Period 36, Day 13 Report - May 3, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 164.23452758

Total Units: 120537

NAV/U: BTC 0.0013625238
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May 03, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
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This will go out to all holder of MINE/SELL on Havelock, but I wanted to post it here as well. Just a short description of the End-Game, which is coming up within about 3-4 weeks.


To all holders of B.MINE and B.SELL:

Just a reminder from your friendly Fund Manager, twentyseventy, regarding BDD’s End-Game Scenario:

As of tomorrow, May 4, 2015, there will be approximately 25 Days of MINE Dividends remaining at the current level of dividends. The actual amount will depend on the difficulty change later today, the next difficulty change after that, and the amount of EXCH sold (and MINE/SELL pairs bought back, if any).

Everything in this notice is public knowledge, available via either the information in the Bitcointalk thread OP or via some basic math. I’m simply trying to ensure that those that hold MINE and SELL understand the ramifications of the end of this BDD Round before the End-Game later this month.

BDD is designed to let people speculate on the difficulty of the Bitcoin network. Those that believe that it will continue to increase at a significant clip should hold SELL, and those that believe that difficulty will not increase as rapidly should hold MINE.

Payouts to MINE or SELL in the form of dividends are how those who speculate receive the ‘answer’ to whether or not they chose correctly. MINE pays out daily dividends based on the difficulty until all funds are exhausted. SELL receives dividends when the difficulty increases to a point where there are more than 200 days of MINE dividends on hand, per unit. At that point, MINE’s position is relatively secure from a dividend standpoint, so SELL units receive the excess capital above this amount.

Q: What happens after the ~25 Days of Dividends are paid out to MINE?
A: The ‘End Game’ happens – this is described in the OP as the ‘End-Game via Decrease’. Daily dividends are paid out to MINE until there is no more capital for a full dividend; then, a final, partial dividend is paid out to MINE using the remaining funds (less than a full dividend). MINE will then have received all funds and all MINE units are bought back at 0. All SELL units are bought back for 0 as well.

Q: Is there a chance that there could be more MINE Dividend Days left?
A: Yes, but a small one. In order for there to be more dividends paid out, the difficulty would need to increase (increasing the total dividend days, but decreasing the payout). Sales of EXCH and buybacks of MINE/SELL pairs can increase this amount, but only very slightly.

Q: How can I estimate how much I will receive for each of my MINE units?
A: Since it’s extremely probably that the End-Game via Decrease will happen, meaning that MINE receives all funds and SELL receives 0, you can look at the NAV/U posted daily in the bitcointalk thread. The NAV/U is the value of all the assets divided by the number of total units available (Net Asset Value per Unit). You should NOT purchase shares of MINE on the market for a price above this number!

Q: What will happen to my SELL shares?
A: Your SELL shares will be bought back for 0. Because the Difficulty has been decreasing or stagnating, SELL will not receive anything(*) further - this is why the market price of SELL has decreased so rapidly over the past few months. Those that have paid attention have seen that MINE would soon be receiving all remaining payouts and SELL would not receive anything further.

Q: Is there any chance that my SELL shares will pay a dividend at all? (*)
A: (*) There is a non-zero chance that SELL will pay a dividend again, but it is extremely small (less than 1% in my opinion). It would require multiple consecutive high-percentage increases in the difficulty over the next difficulty periods. SELL shares should be practically valued very near, if not at, zero.

I hope I’ve helped answer some questions you may have. Again, this should not have been a surprise to anyone that understands BDD, but I wanted to ensure that there would not be a big shock to anyone when the Round ends in about 25 Days.

I am considering starting a new BDD Round after this one has closed out; I’ll be sure to make an announcement if so.

If you have any questions, drop by the BDD Bitcointalk thread or email me at bitcoinderiv@gmail.com

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430137.0

Happy speculating,
twentyseventy / 2070
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May 04, 2015, 03:20:24 PM
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As mentioned in the update yesterday, there are 25.8 Days left of MINE dividends at the current dividend rate.



Period 36 End Report - May 4, 2015

Previous Units              64984
EXCH Sold                   55671
Less Buybacks              3015
New Total Units        117640

Previous Balance          136.222665
Price per EXCH             Variable
Gross Sales of EXCH      95.31549903

Less Fees                    0.35576681
Less Dividends              64.87724343
Less Buybacks              4.02583905
Less Mgmt Fee              1.90902701
Net Balance            160.37028773

End of Period NAV/U     0.00136322

New Difficulty                  47,643,398,018
New Daily Dividend         0.00005277
New Reserve per Unit        0.01055400

New Reserve Less NAV/U = 0.01055400 - 0.00136322= -0.00919078


SELL Dividend                 None (Because NAV/U is less than 200 Days of Dividends)

Days of Dividends On Hand    ~25.83

You'll notice that I calculate the new Dividend to eight digits and multiply that times 200 Days to get the new Reserve. Those of you that did your own calculations may come up with a slightly different number if you chose not to round or to round elsewhere.
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May 04, 2015, 03:23:54 PM
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Period 37, Day 0 Report - May 4, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 154.16242493

Total Units: 117640

NAV/U: BTC 0.00131045
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May 05, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
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Period 37, Day 1 Report - May 5, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 147.66153558

Total Units: 117402

NAV/U: BTC 0.00125774
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May 06, 2015, 04:39:03 PM
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Period 37, Day 2 Report - May 6, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 141.43878513

Total Units: 117374

NAV/U: BTC 0.00120502

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May 07, 2015, 04:19:18 PM
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Period 37, Day 3 Report - May 7, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 135.54611209

Total Units: 117634

NAV/U: BTC 0.00115226
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May 08, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
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Period 37, Day 4 Report - May 8, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 129.41261513

Total Units: 117701

NAV/U: BTC 0.00109950
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May 09, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
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Period 37, Day 5 Report - May 9, 2015

Balance Post Divs: BTC 123.20153336

Total Units: 117461

NAV/U: BTC 0.00104887
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