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June 28, 2018, 04:18:48 PM
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it really hard to say this, but i think. all of that can be manipulation if someone have so much supply and play with the market price, just a whale i think that can manipulation this, but still a risk is to high for them too

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June 28, 2018, 04:21:53 PM
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There was , there is and there will always be institutional manipulation of Bitcoin prices. because bitcoins are in very limited hands. in my opinion Mining pools , exchanges , and big investors are beside bitcoin manipulation.

I agree that the number of Bitcoin holder is limited, we are not taking about large cycle but still I think that the range of manipulation isn't that spread out. People are too much into conspiracy theories and want to beleive that Bitcoin is manipulated more than it actualy could be having in mind the technology that is based on and how the market is functioning.

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July 05, 2018, 03:33:09 AM
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There was , there is and there will always be institutional manipulation of Bitcoin prices. because bitcoins are in very limited hands. in my opinion Mining pools , exchanges , and big investors are beside bitcoin manipulation.

I agree that the number of Bitcoin holder is limited, we are not taking about large cycle but still I think that the range of manipulation isn't that spread out. People are too much into conspiracy theories and want to beleive that Bitcoin is manipulated more than it actualy could be having in mind the technology that is based on and how the market is functioning.
bitcoiner is only about 1% of the total world population, i think it is a small amount. so manipulation is likely to occur, especially for those who have large capital, so it is easy to drive the price. because we know that price movement is influenced purely from sales volume and purchasing volume

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July 05, 2018, 03:44:53 AM
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Investors and traders should be smart to learn the increase and decrease in the price of crypto. this is because I think the price of crypto is easily manipulated by a group of people who want to buy crypto at a cheap price and will raise the price until everyone buys it back at an expensive price.
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July 05, 2018, 03:59:52 AM
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Bitcoin price movement is unseen to be predicted.

I believe there is price manipulation in the bitcoin market, because for the past few months the bitcoin price has only touched the highest price at $9000. It could be that those who do not like bitcoin are willing to buy bitcoins in large quantities and they sell their bitcoins and keep prices down.

And I believe the bitcoin price movement in 2018 is pure by the users, I mean with a lot of bad news at the beginning of 2018 to make bitcoin prices continue to decline. So they will be reluctant to re-invest in the bitcoin market, or wait for the market to recover.

This is what I mean, many possibilities will occur when predicting bitcoin prices so that no one is able to focus on a single problem and just believe that it is the cause.




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July 05, 2018, 06:31:36 AM
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Yes. I believe there's institutional manipulation of bitcoin price.
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July 05, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
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Well, they should open the investigation into large-scale institutional gold and silver price manipulation too!

Anyway, of course the price has been manipulated but I wouldn't connect it with any dark agenda, it is just a pump&dump scheme all the same that I have been seeing for almost 5 years now.
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July 05, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
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And I believe the bitcoin price movement in 2018 is pure by the users, I mean with a lot of bad news at the beginning of 2018 to make bitcoin prices continue to decline.

I would like to 'safely' point out that the retail influence on the market in 2018 has never been this low.

The decline in the price was mainly caused by old hands cashing out, altcoin whales using BTC/USD pairs to cash out, and the manipulation that we are experiencing.

People quite often forget that altcoin whales cashing out do severely affect Bitcoin's price. Altcoin markets in no shape or form can even remotely handle semi large traders to cash out, so what's the only viable alternative left? It's using Bitcoin's liquidity to cash out, which as we can see has been exhausted already due to old hands dumping a certain part of their coins. In other words, Bitcoin's liquidity is being 'attacked' from plenty of different directions.

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July 05, 2018, 12:44:08 PM
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In the cryptocurrency market, many financial institutions generally use media public opinion to publish false (or little-known) information to cause BTC to rise or fall, and to achieve the purpose of manipulating BTC prices!
They have enough money to buy cryptocurrencies in large quantities and manipulate market prices!
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July 05, 2018, 02:01:21 PM
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on the theory , the market price manipulation is possible to do , but in the fact so hard to make it happens , to manipulate the price (especially bitcoin  price )you need large people with huge capital , and make them has one purpose .

Control the mainstream media, fud, influence the price, profit?
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July 05, 2018, 02:58:34 PM
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on the theory , the market price manipulation is possible to do , but in the fact so hard to make it happens , to manipulate the price (especially bitcoin  price )you need large people with huge capital , and make them has one purpose .

Control the mainstream media, fud, influence the price, profit?
Some crypto holders they called that a "whale" just like a whale they manipulating the price of crypto and bitcoin as well. They have enough fund to take control of the mainstream media by continuing spreading FUD news that makes influence the market price. It has a big effect on the market cap price when FUD continue spreading and make it worst when weak hand holders decide their holding bitcoin to sell earlier that make whales happy.

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July 05, 2018, 08:32:09 PM
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Many people try to manipulate crypto by the market. the market is only beginning to form, but many institutional investors and governments have already realized the potential of crypto and want to enter the market on their own terms.

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July 05, 2018, 09:26:49 PM
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I do not think we have seen Institutional investors enter the market yet. Institutional Investor requirements have been reached yet and many have strict requirements before they enter. The market manipulation is primarily groups of individuals that take advantage of low liquidity in may crypto markets.

https://forexmarketslive.com/will-institutional-investors-save-cryptocurrencies/
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July 05, 2018, 09:39:26 PM
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on the theory , the market price manipulation is possible to do , but in the fact so hard to make it happens , to manipulate the price (especially bitcoin  price )you need large people with huge capital , and make them has one purpose .

Control the mainstream media, fud, influence the price, profit?
Mainstream media really creates negative impact in cryptoworld especially if its negative news and the result is also negative to cryptocurrency. There is no Institutional investment yet, but manipulation is really possible for those big people that really wants to make bigger profit.

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July 05, 2018, 10:21:43 PM
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We have seen reports lately that the US Justice Department has opened a criminal probe into alleged price manipulation of

Bitcoin and other digital currencies. We have seen for months now that the Bitcoin price cannot get momentum and as soon

as there are positive signs that it is recovering, then it drops down again. In many of these instances there are no negative

news that would have triggered that downward spiral. There are also no Alt coins with significant growth during these times,

 for us to say that these Alt coins are the trigger behind this. The only logical conclusion for this is that someone or a group of

people are "killing" the correction phase of the Bitcoin price.  Angry

Do you think there are some sinister agenda behind this or is this just Bitcoin whales doing their normal thing?   

I am buying this arguments as it's obviously happening inside market,look at the prices we all see how they manipulate the prices to their benefits,whales are making this as their bread and butter having no care for others instead only tp favor them,lets hope that the us investigation may bring this to justice

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July 06, 2018, 02:07:59 AM
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We have seen reports lately that the US Justice Department has opened a criminal probe into alleged price manipulation of

Bitcoin and other digital currencies. We have seen for months now that the Bitcoin price cannot get momentum and as soon

as there are positive signs that it is recovering, then it drops down again. In many of these instances there are no negative

news that would have triggered that downward spiral. There are also no Alt coins with significant growth during these times,

 for us to say that these Alt coins are the trigger behind this. The only logical conclusion for this is that someone or a group of

people are "killing" the correction phase of the Bitcoin price.  Angry

Do you think there are some sinister agenda behind this or is this just Bitcoin whales doing their normal thing?   
I find it unlikely that we are going through some kind of manipulation, I mean it can happen but there is no need for it, any investor that had any genuine interest in investing in bitcoin is not going to invest after what happened at the beginning of the year and the huge crash that we saw so the price of bitcoin cannot grow since there is not any influx of new money entering in this market.
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July 06, 2018, 02:14:00 AM
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on the theory , the market price manipulation is possible to do , but in the fact so hard to make it happens , to manipulate the price (especially bitcoin  price )you need large people with huge capital , and make them has one purpose .
Yeah, so do you have an opinion on that or are you satisfied with just writing a generic shitpost that doesn't even answer the exam question in the title?

Since we know even less about who's buying bitcoin than who's buying stocks, it's kind of hard to tell if there's "manipulation" or not.  I guess you could tell by the volume and nature of orders on the exchanges (somewhat).  If there was a huge whale in the bitcoin market, it's quite possible that there could be buying or selling that ends up moving the market, but they probably wouldn't buy or sell on an exchange like Binance or wherever.  I don't think that's necessarily manipulation, which is why I used the quotes.  Personally I don't think so.  We've been stalled for a while now, and the last big movement was in the downward direction.  Short sellers?  Maybe.  I don't think most of us could even find that out, though.

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July 06, 2018, 02:33:29 AM
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I do not really understand what institutions have controlled bitcoin, but there are certainly bunches of whales in controlling prices
I am very sure, Bitcoin is now very difficult to predict because of the whales

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July 06, 2018, 03:34:43 AM
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i think not, those loss you called was just part of the system, every year is distinctively different from one another, we cannot based the data last year to the present year, we have to consider the present competition on the market, a lot of coins from ICO are getting a percentage from the total market especially today, the demand for bitcoin varies every year also, but despite of those things to consider, we can see the improvement of bitcoin's data per year.

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