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Author Topic: Bitmex/Deribit for noobs - Leveraged Trading. Longs and Shorts!  (Read 2680 times)
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June 28, 2018, 04:34:08 PM
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Took profits at 6050. Kind of stumped on where this is going next. Might wait for a big move.
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June 30, 2018, 09:18:37 PM
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Longing at 6300. Think 6.8k is in play.
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July 01, 2018, 06:59:16 AM
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Took profit at 6400. Kind of skeptical about 6800 now. Waiting to see how things develop tomorrow.
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July 03, 2018, 05:41:07 AM
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Shorted 6650. May pop to 6750, but will just add there.
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July 03, 2018, 08:41:02 PM
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Took profit at 6550 and relonged. Took profit at 6650, currently no trade zone. Hoping to get a short at 6700.
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July 04, 2018, 10:37:36 AM
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 I have seen a skillful traders, who would claim to have up to $7,000 per month. And they mostly are telling that on there portfolio wallets are both of the types of coins. For short and for long term trading.
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July 05, 2018, 12:51:10 AM
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Shorted 6750. Annoyed I didnt wait until 6800 but so far so good. Seeing a bounce around 6450 I think.
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July 05, 2018, 06:09:11 PM
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Longing 6500 Range. Little scared because Friday is usually a dump. Tight SLs
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July 06, 2018, 04:58:21 AM
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6500 seems crazy dangerous now. Probably sitting out until tomorrow.
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July 07, 2018, 05:43:18 AM
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Layering shorts from 6.6 to 6.8. I think dump will happen, but not sure when.
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July 09, 2018, 01:55:41 AM
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Average short is 6700 but very scared. Feels like this could test 7k. Keeping a close eye, be safe!
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July 10, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
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Took profit at 6650 on the short, regretting that for sure!

Longing 6350 now.
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July 11, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
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Just been playing these swings over and over. Great time to trade with tight SLs. I think the next big move will probably be up, but very content to play $30 swings right now.
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July 12, 2018, 01:36:55 AM
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Bitmex is great platform for trading Bitcoin futures with leverage which possible to make profit from bearish and bullish trend. And for beginner is better to use maximum 5 leverage, too high leverage is the same like betting and too high risky. This good platform is great to use when the situation of market just like now.

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July 12, 2018, 02:35:45 AM
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I kept seeing the Bitmex wrecked twitter thing and seeing mentions of leverage all over 4chan, but had absolutely no idea what it all meant. It also looked too complicated for me so I've always ignored it. Got bored today and it's actually much simpler than it seems. There's a ton of guides that go super in-depth and those made absolutely no sense to me, so I'm going to explain it from an idiot's perspective.

First of all, the draw of Bitmex is you can do what's called Leveraged trading. In the simplest terms possible, it means you multiply your percentage gains/losses. If you go 10x leverage long on bitcoin and bitcoin gains 1%, you gain 10% more money. This is super cool for impatient people like me because it allows you to trade more actively without getting wrecked by fees, and it's ridiculously exciting.

Bitmex doesn't allow US users, but supposedly, all you need to do is register under a VPN and you're good to go. I used ExpressVPN. It is a paid VPN, but they have a 30 day money back guarantee. You can register on Bitmex with it, then cancel. Or keep it because it's actually a super nice program.

Once you're registered, deposit some BTC into your Bitmex wallet. When you first open the trade screen it's going to look super complicated. It's not.

Buying Long on a coin means you expect it to go up. Buying short on a coin means you expect it to go down. Playing those buys works like any other Exchange (i.e. Binance). You can set a limit price to buy in at and an amount. to buy.

Now you want to pick your leverage. In the menu below that, there's a slider. Again, each multiplier of leverage means every 1% = your leverage multiplier. 1% gain with a 25x leverage means 25% gain. I would start with 2x/3x leverage until you get a good handle on things.

The Cost number below the buy long/buy short number is the big one here. With leverage, you're essentially putting loaned money toward a coin. With 10x leverage, you can buy 1 BTC even if you only have .1 BTC (this is why the percentage gains are so drastic). However, this means you can lose it as well.

Let's say you bought 1 BTC at $10000, Long at 10x leverage (So you put in $1000). If BTC dropped 10% to $9000, you would lose all $1000 you put in. If it went to $11000, you would gain $1000 and double your money. Bitmex will auto "liquidate you" if you drop too far and don't have any more money to cover (10x leverage means if it drops more than 10% you lose all the money you put in. 25x leverage means if it drops more than 4% you lose all your money).

You can change orders on the fly and constantly adjust. Let's say BTC raised to $10100 (1%). You could then sell your long order and you will have gained 10% and now you can invest your $1100.

Like I said, there's a ton of guides out there that go into the more fancy TA and ways you can adjust orders, but this should provide a quick overview to get you started. They have a testnet site where you can practice with fake money first as well.

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This is why I love margin trading though I haven't earned from it for awhile because I quiet scared of getting liquidated. Much better if I could trade it in on an accurate way.
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July 12, 2018, 07:29:38 AM
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Simple information for some newbies who wants to plan to do margin trading with bitmex. But some piece of advice, always do 10x leverage especially when you are new to this field. Or even if you are well experienced, 10x leverage is safer and prevent huge loss.
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July 13, 2018, 04:49:48 AM
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Got pretty lucky and managed to profit on the quick downswing and then flipped to a long and caught this up swing. Super good day today. I think we'll see a retest of 6200 then back up for a bit, maybe 6.5 or something. We'll see how it goes, but definitely leaning long after a small retrace.
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July 14, 2018, 02:55:02 AM
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Another great day today. Find the resistance points and play between them. Still think a 6.5k retest is coming.
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July 15, 2018, 04:55:33 PM
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Retest of 6.3k then the run to 6.5k I think.
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July 15, 2018, 05:09:18 PM
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I just have one advice for all the noobs/newbies in here, STAY away from Leveraged trading if you do not even consider yourself as prepared for doing normal trading, remember that you will be using leveraged funds and you can lose more easily.

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