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June 19, 2018, 04:10:58 PM
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It has been really interesting to read the complete thread.
In conclusion, there are two different types of person in here:
- Forever Juniors, or Forever members: people who actually just post in their bounties, trying to digging the forum and receive some bucks. I guess most of them actually dreams with ranking-up do they can earn more money.
- Seniors and people seeking knowledge. Yep, there are some newbies earning merits in here, too. But, usually, they are not asking for them, but trying to create some good posts, to help others, and so.
Even if you are wearing a signature, the compromise with the forum must exist. There is not just a place to earn some bucks in the shape of a crypto, to copy paste everything you feel that is going to give you some underserved merits or to complain about the system. Yeah, you can find a "job" in here, maybe, but this is not excluding at all that you need to use the brain in each post you write.

The "meritocracy" Jet Cash was mentioning is the best way to describe the forum. Notice there are millions (!!!!) of users in here (maybe much less are actives, but, still, that's is a lot!). This is a very competitive place, and merits are made to make a difference between those who actually "shine" and the rest. Notice there are many users, even some that registered their accounts after the OP did, who have earned tons of merits. Why? Simple. They didn't come in here, joined a bounty and began to spam the forum with their reports and their "Good, thanks, sir". They just came in here and made the difference, by tons of effort, by teaching us, the seniors good and new stuff, by refreshing the site with their mere presence.
So the merit system is just showing up those users willing to make a difference through their hard work.
The rest, well, if you are not willing to make a difference, to learn, to read, to create something new, to tell us just something we can think about, to improve your attitude, you will become a "Forever Junior" or a "Forever member", if you are lucky enough and opened your account about a month before the merits system was implemented.

There is not "an easy way" (as the one you suggested) and this is not our duty to ease anybody's way. Besides, it will be truly unfair to ease the way now that many good users have spent time and dedication to rank-up and succeeded.
You have to choose: you can change your mindset about the forum, begin to learn, read, and try to write properly, try to, at least, say something that makes the people think, or, on the contrary, you can just still doing the way you are, with all those bounty reports and similar staff. If you choose the first, then you probably will rank-up because of your own effort; if you choose the second, you will remain as a "Forever Junior".

Think about the system. Is not far fairer this way? You can participate in here, you can also earn in here, as you are doing, with no effort, with no reflect, without contributing to the forum. You can, and you are doing this. And also, you can make contributions, if you will, you can write your thoughts, your relflections, enrolled into a gread debate, learn a lot, and, step by step, gain some merit as well as recognition from other users. Also, I strongly believe that now is far more easy to win some merits, for instance, now I merit newbies if I consider they have quite a good posting history and some effort in the merited thread. Before, I used to look for a great post, now I merit just good posts, for they are more rare and rare to say every day.

It is just your choice, mate. Just that.



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June 19, 2018, 05:17:21 PM
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i want my rank to increase oo what should i do
The only thing you can do to increase your rank is to keep contributing to the forum and hoping maybe someone somewhere finds it attractive or worthwhile and merits it. Your rank can only increase as your merit points increases to the stipulated amount of merit required for each rank. Keep posting, contributing and hoping for the best.
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The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
You're absolutely right and when people try to point this out, older and higher ranked members will always try to suppress it with the notion that they also merit posts that are worth meriting. The merit system is human driven and humans by nature don't give freely they only give to their close pals or people they find doing their bidding. I think the system should be revisited and reviewed. It's not about stopping shit posting. I have always been of the opinion that merit should be done by the forum itself not individuals in the forum.
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The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
Your assassination is wrong and prejudiced. When you make such conclusions, you should be prepared to back up with facts. Merit system is working and people here reward quality contributions. It does not matter if such persons know themselves or not. What counts is the quality of the post.

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The Merit system is broken, very few people actually send merit to valuable posts, the vast majority of it gets circulated between old timers who know eachother personally on

the forum, and it doesn't help that most of these guys are on the Bitcoin related forums;

so while altcoin proponents now probably outnumber the Bitcoin maximalists, the merit distribution is disproportionately in favor of Bitcoin sympathizers...
Nothing hinders you, will join the team of people who know each other very well and to receive from them merit. Bitcoin enthusiasts are always welcome in our forum.
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June 20, 2018, 11:45:54 AM
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Where on earth would a member get 100 merits to become a full member when some higher ranked members are stingy of their merits.
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There are already a handful of quality posters who became Full Members by receiving 100 merits. Try doing research and comment.

They are only a handful, compared with the number of people who post quality posts per time. There are many times I have wanted to award merits to a very good post, but my merits have been exhausted. And the post goes without being appreciated.

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Hy all
Sorry to say this over here if I have made a mistake. but have just reasoning if Bitcointalk.org can just do a promo every year by upgrading of ranks, suggesting if any rank will be upgraded the account should get to 5 to 8 months old in bitcointalk.org before upgrading to next rank. Usually from newbies to Jr.member should be normal upgrades and then from Jr.member to any other ranks should be 8months or 10months before upgrading them.

Here are my opinion what do you about this
Please I need your answers let keeps the ranks moving.

well i have nothing much to say about this rank of a thing because i m sure the system have been designed for a specific purpose, so we need to make some quality post in this forum.
now how much quality post do we have to make for our rank to increase or what else can we do it to rank up. i truly know that this system of merit will be open a day. as it's said "destiny maybe delay but it can never be changed" one day will all rank up the higher level.
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If you have been posting regularly here for six months, and you haven't received any merit, then I think your posting restriction interval should be doubled. Upranking for making consistently low value posts won't improve your posting habits. Restricting your posting frequency may encourage you to make an effort.

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July 19, 2018, 09:22:16 AM
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It has been really interesting to read the complete thread.
In conclusion, there are two different types of person in here:
- Forever Juniors, or Forever members: people who actually just post in their bounties, trying to digging the forum and receive some bucks. I guess most of them actually dreams with ranking-up do they can earn more money.
- Seniors and people seeking knowledge. Yep, there are some newbies earning merits in here, too. But, usually, they are not asking for them, but trying to create some good posts, to help others, and so.
Even if you are wearing a signature, the compromise with the forum must exist. There is not just a place to earn some bucks in the shape of a crypto, to copy paste everything you feel that is going to give you some underserved merits or to complain about the system. Yeah, you can find a "job" in here, maybe, but this is not excluding at all that you need to use the brain in each post you write.

The "meritocracy" Jet Cash was mentioning is the best way to describe the forum. Notice there are millions (!!!!) of users in here (maybe much less are actives, but, still, that's is a lot!). This is a very competitive place, and merits are made to make a difference between those who actually "shine" and the rest. Notice there are many users, even some that registered their accounts after the OP did, who have earned tons of merits. Why? Simple. They didn't come in here, joined a bounty and began to spam the forum with their reports and their "Good, thanks, sir". They just came in here and made the difference, by tons of effort, by teaching us, the seniors good and new stuff, by refreshing the site with their mere presence.
So the merit system is just showing up those users willing to make a difference through their hard work.
The rest, well, if you are not willing to make a difference, to learn, to read, to create something new, to tell us just something we can think about, to improve your attitude, you will become a "Forever Junior" or a "Forever member", if you are lucky enough and opened your account about a month before the merits system was implemented.

There is not "an easy way" (as the one you suggested) and this is not our duty to ease anybody's way. Besides, it will be truly unfair to ease the way now that many good users have spent time and dedication to rank-up and succeeded.
You have to choose: you can change your mindset about the forum, begin to learn, read, and try to write properly, try to, at least, say something that makes the people think, or, on the contrary, you can just still doing the way you are, with all those bounty reports and similar staff. If you choose the first, then you probably will rank-up because of your own effort; if you choose the second, you will remain as a "Forever Junior".

Think about the system. Is not far fairer this way? You can participate in here, you can also earn in here, as you are doing, with no effort, with no reflect, without contributing to the forum. You can, and you are doing this. And also, you can make contributions, if you will, you can write your thoughts, your relflections, enrolled into a gread debate, learn a lot, and, step by step, gain some merit as well as recognition from other users. Also, I strongly believe that now is far more easy to win some merits, for instance, now I merit newbies if I consider they have quite a good posting history and some effort in the merited thread. Before, I used to look for a great post, now I merit just good posts, for they are more rare and rare to say every day.

It is just your choice, mate. Just that.


yes that is true, you said it all we can now spend time to see the diference which i can make to put a change in this forum or to increease the learn system. i know that many are so bordered about the merit system one things is make we make a difference from others to keep forum standard not buy spaming and doing all such of inrelevants discussions.

thanks you so the impactation
i m willing to make a change and keeping standard.
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July 20, 2018, 08:38:35 AM
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Good suggestion but I think it has majour flaw, there are thousands of account here that have not been opened for years, that means automatically those accounts too would be upgraded to new rank, the recent merit deployed is affecting alot of people  and need to be reviewed but not to this

I think this "flaw" is easily to be solved.   You just have to make a rule that the account must be active for at least a certain period of time (say 6 mos?).  Hence, those old accounts that are inactive will not rank up.

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