[ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

I remember playing this when it first launched. Seems like forever ago. Is there a lite client that I can download so that I don't have to sync the blockchain? Client/server type of thing? thx  

There's a bundle that comes with pruned blockchain and latest client. Just came out recently, check last few pages of thread.

Edit: See the all-in-one download in this post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435170.msg17032226#msg17032226
~500 MB apparently.

Yup! It's way easier to install now, too

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[Andeze17]

What is t his alternative client ? I need the wallet still though ? Where is the latest link full boot strap for the wallet please ?
That would be great. Then I can come play for free with this promotion ? Well I have HUC to buy a character but I am new so I  don't want to die so if I die with the free one it is ok How does it work ?

Sorry, actually my client is discontinued because i left huntercoin support, I didn't had time to update website (and forget about my signature, i didn't posted on the forum since I left until yesterday)

Anyway the promo was about the fee to use the client, not the game itself, there is no way a player can play without having HUCs, because to generate a hunter you have to "spend" 100+1 huc" and moves costs 0.01 and destruct 1, etc... so the dynamic of the game requires you to have a wallet with hucs and risk your own capital, no matter what client you use

If you want to play "safe", you can just read about new rules (if someone posted anything clear about that) and try to just grab some coins without going near enemies, then collect ASAP, but you are anyway risking real HUCs

somewhere in past posts there is a link for the download of unity client + pruned chain to start quickly, but i can't comment/help about that game client because I Don't know/use/play it

Thanks for the info.

[aditya81]

be carefull you all before play this game,player cheat is everywhere,or you will lose your money.fuck you cheater

[logictense]

How is the Huntercoin browser project going

When it will be released.??

How are you all btw i hope everything is ok with you all people

Advanced New year wishes from me.

Let the next year be a great and prosperous new year for you all bitcoin talk member's.

Never heard about a browser. What do u develop it for? Is it a blockchain parser or the gateway to the internet of things?

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

be carefull you all before play this game,player cheat is everywhere,or you will lose your money.fuck you cheater

It is mathematically impossible to cheat in a blockchain-based game. You can only win or lose.

Your username aditya81 is similar to the Hunters named "adi" in the game, so I'm guessing you might be the Dominator. In that case, sorry I keep using hit and run tactics to sneak by and take all the coins you're trying to hoarde.

How is the Huntercoin browser project going

When it will be released.??

How are you all btw i hope everything is ok with you all people

Advanced New year wishes from me.

Let the next year be a great and prosperous new year for you all bitcoin talk member's.

Never heard about a browser. What do u develop it for? Is it a blockchain parser or the gateway to the internet of things?

A browser or mobile version of Huntercoin is something we would like to have, but we're not actively working on it, right now. We're preoccupied with the next gameplay update fork, and other cool things we're not ready to announce, yet. For now, it's up to a third party if they want to create that, and we will support them if so.

[MithrilMan]

be carefull you all before play this game,player cheat is everywhere,or you will lose your money.fuck you cheater

It is mathematically impossible to cheat in a blockchain-based game. You can only win or lose.

Technically you are wrong.
I agree that it's not possible to cheat the game rules: if a transaction says you are moving, destroying, etc... and it goes into a block, then that action is written in stone, incontestable .
But...

... a malicious miner can just decide to not process a transaction, or tweak hash power to rush block generation at will (something that it's easily spottable looking at block generation times and it's seems it's currently happening, but could be due to lack of miners and some players that want to play, switch on their hashpower to play faster... or coincidences... but i don't belive in coincidences)

... or a malicious (set of) node(s) can decide to not broadcast a transaction, (the more the peers, the less the chance this could happen)

Honestly i dont' think that there are malicious nodes or that someone is cheating, but the block generation time is a problem because if it's not stable, this mean that the game suffers about that, and some players like him may feel to be "cheated" because if a player doesn't have the time to plan his moves during a fight, because 2 blocks generate too fast, then he would be reasonably disappointed.

The fact that the complaining player is probably the dominator, means that probably the fact that he can't use my client anymore is hurting his performance and can't dominate as before. This could be ironically a good thing for the dominator prolem, but honestly everytime i look at the gameboard I see everytime the same names, expect during the end of ghost period where (bots?) join in the game, collect few and go bank.

I won't give my opinion about changes, but i'm just stating what i see: 3/4 big players, some sporadic players that rise from the shadow for few times and some suspect activity around the end of ghost coins cycles


I think that you need to focus on attracting lot of sporadic players and maybe few more big players in order to help the game (not talking about the coin speculation value) to have some success and maybe find some big miner that gives a stable block generation rate, and of course gameplay changes that gives some depth to gameplay and complicate the eventual bots efficency (the more variables to consider in a fight, the harder to have a good bot)

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

be carefull you all before play this game,player cheat is everywhere,or you will lose your money.fuck you cheater

It is mathematically impossible to cheat in a blockchain-based game. You can only win or lose.

Technically you are wrong.
I agree that it's not possible to cheat the game rules: if a transaction says you are moving, destroying, etc... and it goes into a block, then that action is written in stone, incontestable .
But...

... a malicious miner can just decide to not process a transaction, or tweak hash power to rush block generation at will (something that it's easily spottable looking at block generation times and it's seems it's currently happening, but could be due to lack of miners and some players that want to play, switch on their hashpower to play faster... or coincidences... but i don't belive in coincidences)

... or a malicious (set of) node(s) can decide to not broadcast a transaction, (the more the peers, the less the chance this could happen)

Honestly i dont' think that there are malicious nodes or that someone is cheating, but the block generation time is a problem because if it's not stable, this mean that the game suffers about that, and some players like him may feel to be "cheated" because if a player doesn't have the time to plan his moves during a fight, because 2 blocks generate too fast, then he would be reasonably disappointed.

The fact that the complaining player is probably the dominator, means that probably the fact that he can't use my client anymore is hurting his performance and can't dominate as before. This could be ironically a good thing for the dominator prolem, but honestly everytime i look at the gameboard I see everytime the same names, expect during the end of ghost period where (bots?) join in the game, collect few and go bank.

I won't give my opinion about changes, but i'm just stating what i see: 3/4 big players, some sporadic players that rise from the shadow for few times and some suspect activity around the end of ghost coins cycles

I think that you need to focus on attracting lot of sporadic players and maybe few more big players in order to help the game (not talking about the coin speculation value) to have some success and maybe find some big miner that gives a stable block generation rate, and of course gameplay changes that gives some depth to gameplay and complicate the eventual bots efficency (the more variables to consider in a fight, the harder to have a good bot)

OK, true, you can cheat if you are a miner with vast amounts of hash power to spare, or can create enough nodes. I'm fairly certain that's not what's going on, though. I don't log on every single day, but I've basically been picking on the Dominator. The new post-fork game rules make it easier to do so; I can spawn close to coins behind his defenses, collect some, and bank before he has a chance to come kill me. I significantly reduce his income without killing any of his Hunters, at all, like an annoying DotA player. Maybe other people have been doing the same, since it's easier for them too 

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

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[snailbrain]

I agree, i've seen zero evidence of any cheating or miner manipulation and i've been playing a lot since the improvements, there's an increase in players/miners.

i notice someone else is calling themselves the name of the old dominator (they are fighting each other)

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[wiggi]

Is there an up to date document containing all the rules/instructions available?

If someone wants to write up the current rule set/guide that we can put in the OP, website etc, i think we can offer a 2.5k huc bounty.

definitely something that is needed.

I might give it a shot over the holidays, no promises tho.

This forum thread is perhaps the place to collect rules/instructions that need to be in the manual (but aren't anywhere written down). One would be the following:

When a block is processed, then combat is done first, and movement second after some hunters are already dead.
e.g. if you have a blue hunter 2 tiles away from a red hunter (both are standing still)

Code:

....R..
.......
..B....

then sending "destruct" and a straight move towards the enemy (diagonally) is not a good idea. It's better to attack with a 2 waypoints move (horizontally+vertically)

If a newbie doesn't know this it would look like clear case of cheating to them.

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"When you first create a Hunter, it will be invulnerable for 5 blocks unless you make a move. If you do not, it will enter spectator mode and be unable to move (but can still chat-this may be used for some extra features at a later time). The Hunter will still be invulnerable"  <.... this

So how do we get our hucs back seeing the toon is frozen, is it always there for now on? Or am i missing something..

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It will automatically bank after a period of time (15 blocks IIRC). Your 100 HUC is locked up until then, but I often still do this intentionally so I can choose a different spawning ground, instead. I just maintain enough HUC on reserve to cover it

And if the hunter is refunded (after 15 blocks as spectator, or just after standing on bank tile) it takes another 120 blocks for the coins from refund to mature and become available. They are treated like freshly mined coins in this regard.


Also, when creating a hunter during the last 10 blocks of "coin ghosting", i.e. the last 10 blocks of full 500 blocks from xxxx490 to xxxx500, or from xxxx990 to xxxx000, the "invulnerable for 5 blocks" counter will not begin to tick until after the coin ghosting is finished.

Having up to 15 minutes to plan ahead is really useful for creating several hunters.

[logictense]

I remember playing this when it first launched. Seems like forever ago. Is there a lite client that I can download so that I don't have to sync the blockchain? Client/server type of thing? thx 

Yep u can grab a wallet but bear in mind it will be discontinued once synchronization with huc game server is over. This reminds me of an open office license which gets discontinued on splash screen.

[OSYA]

I must agree and support aditya81 and MithrilMan....

I wrote about this for a long time and not just once, but I did not take seriously! And at the moment even after cropping nothing has changed!
I like the concept and the direction of the coin / games but I kazhetsa that this project was not good hands!

I promised to make a video with all the evidence of fraud, but unfortunately I did not.
Because my computer is too weak and I can not run in parallel huntercoin and shoot video

[MithrilMan]

OSYA I don't think there is any fraud to be honest, i just said that technically is possible, and probably at the moment some of the bigger miners power on/off power at will (not 24/7 on)

Sometimes weird things happens but sometimes favor you, sometimes the enemies.
Sometimes it's even caused by reorgs, that move hunters like teleporting them
But I understand the feeling when it happens to you, like "WTF!"


P.S.
I noticed this transaction took a lot, and inspecting it it seems very strange on block explorer:

https://www.huntercoin.info/blockExplorer/block/3ba3c21ca9a1e1381eaf8c16380f36d26642b81243ca296f78e04dd5ea12451e

can someone explain? Is just the explorer broken?

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Also might want to take in consideration is how many nodes one is connected to when in combat, the fewer you are connected to the less likely for your destruct to be accepted vs the other guy. (same goes for mining btc, the first guy with his hand up gets answered

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Hum could SPV mining (which we all are doing .. well most of us) have anything to do with the "cheating", much like Bitman is notorious for with there 1 transaction per block solves..

Basically someone takes an unconfirmed block and mines off it and "moves" first.. just guessing, trying to apply whats going on with 1kb block solves in bitcoin to huntercoin.

[The Bitcoin Co-op]

There's no miner or node-based cheating going on, guys. I've been playing a while and seen no evidence of that. I think the people insinuating otherwise are either sore losers or trolls. There can be quirks in the system wherein one person's transaction confirms first unexpectedly, though, which is a problem we might tackle in the future. There can also be misunderstandings of the game/blockchain mechanics, which brings me to an interesting point.

When a block is processed, then combat is done first, and movement second after some hunters are already dead.
e.g. if you have a blue hunter 2 tiles away from a red hunter (both are standing still)

Code:

....R..
.......
..B....

then sending "destruct" and a straight move towards the enemy (diagonally) is not a good idea. It's better to attack with a 2 waypoints move (horizontally+vertically)

If a newbie doesn't know this it would look like clear case of cheating to them.

This is really interesting to me because of the implications about Huntercoin's concept of time. One way of interpreting this fact is to say that a chronon is, in a way, not the smallest unit of time in Huntercoin; instead, it contains "steps" or "phases" that happen in order, with some actions clearly happening before others.

It might be more technically accurate to view it another way, though; still thinking about it.

[Jimmy2011]

I donwloaded the "all in one" client. It can't run properly on win10 system, " This app can't run on your PC", so is it a compatability problem?

[snailbrain]

Also might want to take in consideration is how many nodes one is connected to when in combat, the fewer you are connected to the less likely for your destruct to be accepted vs the other guy. (same goes for mining btc, the first guy with his hand up gets answered

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Hum could SPV mining (which we all are doing .. well most of us) have anything to do with the "cheating", much like Bitman is notorious for with there 1 transaction per block solves..

Basically someone takes an unconfirmed block and mines off it and "moves" first.. just guessing, trying to apply whats going on with 1kb block solves in bitcoin to huntercoin.

yes - if you open port 8398 (iirc) you should see more name_pendings more often and your tx will propagate faster

regarding 1 transaction per block solve - this was happening a while back also with merge mining namecoin i believe - but i think with huntercoin, miners still get a decent chunk from ingame taxes - or did, so would be worth their while mining them. would be good to see what they are getting recently.

Also - the actual balance between what miners get and what you can get playing the game was i rough guestimate by myself originally - and this can be changed if we need to (for whatever purpose).

Best way to play huc is :
assume your move will go in the next block, or the block after. and plan your moves on if either of these can happen.

I've yet to see any move go in the 3rd block..(except during launch with 1000s of txs per block)

i think i agree that the main issue is new players don't understand the mechanics and get frustrated if things don't happen like clockwork

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I donwloaded the "all in one" client. It can't run properly on win10 system, " This app can't run on your PC", so is it a compatability problem?

i'm using windows 10, are you using windows 10 32bit (if there is such a thing)

[Jimmy2011]

I donwloaded the "all in one" client. It can't run properly on win10 system, " This app can't run on your PC", so is it a compatability problem?

i'm using windows 10, are you using windows 10 32bit (if there is such a thing)

Thank you. Yes, I used win10 32bit, so I need to change another 64 bit system.

[OSYA]

If all fair and square...
Please explain how killing 2 yellow hunter in this area and should not perish hunter green as in certain place! Height block 1536280+

http://prnt.sc/dovjmp