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January 28, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
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I don't know if the suicide guy "hyphymikey" is reading any of this, but it is starting to make me feel better about the world.  Smiley
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Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....


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January 29, 2014, 12:37:41 AM
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Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

Don't forget about this sicko!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83559.0

Haha I remember that you sicko!  Tongue


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January 29, 2014, 12:50:25 AM
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Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

If so, I am really sorry to hear that.



Also, cheer up, OP.

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January 29, 2014, 01:19:44 AM
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Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

what really happened?

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January 29, 2014, 01:38:23 AM
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Pretty sure Atlas and dank tried this one before, so nope, not the first.

I know for a fact Atlas did actually follow through....

what really happened?

Someone sent me pictures of him  pretty much dead but it was tough to tell what they really were sure seemed like him....


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January 29, 2014, 01:40:08 AM
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Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

Yep! I like you (:

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Praying for you man.

~Isaiah 41:10
So do not fear, for I am with you;
do not be dismayed, for I am your God.
I will strengthen you and help you;
I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

Belief in God/Heaven and Jesus just encourages suicide.
Don't encourage him.

Seeing the fibonacci sequence in nature helps me realize we were created by intelligent design. From flowers, sea shells, spider webs, oak trees, pinecones, pineapples, all the way to galaxies. AWESOME!

Yep! I like you (:

I like you all, and I know what you are talking about.

I think that, perhaps everyone will, in time.

It is generally futile to speak about things ineffable to those who haven't the ears to hear them.

The Universe is unfolding as it should; there is not a grain of sand out of place!

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January 29, 2014, 01:59:26 AM
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Suicide is never the answer.  Remember all the people you will hurt in the process.

My roommate hung himself over 11 years ago and I found him.  I can never get that image out of my head.

Just think of all the things that you will never be able to do again and get joy out of.
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Glad you're okay man!

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I appreciate the support! I received some donations from a couple members, and although I am trying to stay away from bitcoin to clear my head, I felt they needed to know how much I appreciate it! It shows the love throughout the forums between our members.

I was using my bitcoin profits to pay for college but I  was unable to pay for this semester, and hopefully I can find work to continue  school in the summer. So my focus will remain on that and off my losses. The bad part was that I was addicted to these forums and addicted to Bitcoin, so it isn't easy.

But thanks for all the support. Hopefully I'll "survive" through this and be back on the forums with you guys soon!

Good to hear that Cheesy
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January 29, 2014, 02:45:38 AM
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Oh man. I'm so glad I found this post. I just lost the majority of my coins that I was going to use to pay for last 2 years of university. And I lost them in the stupidest way possible - by gambling on a bitcoin dice site. It was only about 6 bitcoins but that along with student loan was just enough to get me by. I feel like a fucking moron.

But for OP it's much worse...I don't know what to tell you man, except to try and channel your anger and frustration into changing your life for the better and pushing yourself to rise above this loss.


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January 29, 2014, 02:54:49 AM
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This thread for real or just a cleaver way to get Bitcoins from strangers? I thought I'd seen it all..
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January 29, 2014, 03:02:04 AM
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man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country. And before anyone starts with the b.s. about snitching. This isn't about a dime bag or other nonsense. Someone made a post that in substance said that they wanted to kill themself. ---- if his initial post is legit, your intention is to save his life.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.


 
 
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January 29, 2014, 03:15:46 AM
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Had over 400 LTC stolen I was pissed for a while so I can sympathize with you. Keep your head up.

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January 29, 2014, 03:16:11 AM
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man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever.

Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community.

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January 29, 2014, 03:25:57 AM
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That would be pretty crazy if you did that man. I hope you don't and I don't even know you. Shocked Huh
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January 29, 2014, 03:35:05 AM
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We were all suicidal at one point or another.

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January 29, 2014, 03:39:24 AM
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man just call 911 and get the police to take you to a psych ward for suicide watch then claim disability and get SSI because you hear voices in your head telling you to kill yourself.

Unfortunately the emergency services tend to be quite useless with people merely feeling suicidal - they MIGHT respond well to an actual attempt, but for mere suicidal ideation (the medical term for "thinking about suicide and thinking it's a good idea") you're better off going straight to a psych.

Not to mention most people who are suicidal do not have "voices in their head" but rather a severe lack of serotonin triggered through a random biochemical glitch or from a life event - or for the truly unlucky both (for example, someone with bipolar who has a bad life event).

The nasty part about depression is it hijacks self-esteem and makes the victim believe that nobody will care (it's a common pattern to see people claim they're doing their friends and family a favour by removing themselves from the situation), when in reality most people have SOMEONE who does care and would be hurt - which is why the best approach is always to encourage people who talk about suicide to talk to their friends and family in person.

Of course some threats are just attention seeking or even plain old trolling, but from personal experience it's best to assume the threat is real and encourage people to seek help - i'd rather be fooled by a few trolls than see someone die who could have been saved, especially as i've had friends who took their own life after people thought they were joking.

You sir are 100% INCORRECT!!! Law Enforcement WILL respond to situation like this. It's amazing that this thread went 5 pages and no one bothered to mention that maybe, just maybe, they should ask the Mod to notify ANY law enforcement agency (even anonymously by friggin email). All the Mod would have to do is obtain his IP, Google its location and anonymously send an email containing his post and his IP to the local police. If the IP is valid and not a proxy, Law Enforcement  would be able to obtain the posters address expeditiously without a warrant because it would be considered "Exigent Circumstances" and negate the need for warrant - at least if it's in the US. I can't speak for any other country.

I did my part and notified the Mod --"report to Mod". It's now in the hands of BitcoinTalk since I can't obtain the poster's IP myself.

Maybe I'm over reacting, but it's outrageous that someone would be posting information about things that they truly aren't knowledgeable about rather than attempting to actually do something about the situation to help the individual. Maybe he's just a scammer trying to get free coins with a sob story, which is more likely the case, but what if he's not.

You're right, perhaps. I was one of the first to respond and advised OP to seek help away from this forum. It didn't dawn on me that this could've been the warning before the bang. I usually don't miss much, but it was 4am. Even so, there's no way we could predict the outcome. What if we got the mods involved (they probably wouldn't anyways) in this situation, send LE to his home (or place of work), when all he was feeling was a little down and wanted to spark conversation? LE's doing an incident report (he'd never know), but this reference would follow him forever.

Most of the responders tried to offer reassuring words of encouragement; and for most, that's as far as it goes... it is the internet after all. What I found sickening were all the people who automatically thought this was a scam or tried to bully him into moving forward with it. Yet another reason why we heart the bitcoin community.

I can't say either way whether this poster is scamming or not. But what if he isn't. Our concern as a community shouldn't be that he'll have an "incident report" to follow him around. Our primary concern should be that someone went to his door and asked if he was okay and wanted to speak in person. The "incident report" actually WOULD NOT follow him around, since he's not committing any crime. In NYC, the "incident report" is known as an "Aided Card". One would be prepared if you fell and broke your arm on the sidewalk or as in the case of the OP, if you had suicidal thoughts. He's not committing any crime and therefore would not be treated, categorized or reported as a criminal. And the Aided Card is not public information, yes like most other documents that the government possesses it can be FOIL-ed, but you'd have to already know that the incident took place and you'd have to have some really specific information (name, dob, address, etc) to even attempt to obtain a copy of it. And if you already knew that why would you FOIL it.

Sorry to digress, just in short, as you've said, rather than ridiculing and bullying, we should have done more as community to ensure that we did everything possible to assist the OP.



 
 
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