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February 09, 2014, 06:59:43 AM
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Seems like we need a compiled windows wallet of the latest github source.

Is it possible to create a windows wallet with QT creator? I'm not a technical person and I'm just trying few tutorials I found online.

I tried it, I'm a technical person - and I failed. Building a windows wallet is like mixing beer and coke. It's just not right.
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February 09, 2014, 07:00:08 AM
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Seems like we need a compiled windows wallet of the latest github source.

Is it possible to create a windows wallet with QT creator? I'm not a technical person and I'm just trying few tutorials I found online.
the windows wallet is runing the latest github v1.1.1.2
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February 09, 2014, 07:13:36 AM
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Seems like we need a compiled windows wallet of the latest github source.

Is it possible to create a windows wallet with QT creator? I'm not a technical person and I'm just trying few tutorials I found online.

I tried it, I'm a technical person - and I failed. Building a windows wallet is like mixing beer and coke. It's just not right.
Grin I agree with you, after trying for hours (s4w3d0ff can attest to this) to cross-compile the qt wallet under Linux.
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February 09, 2014, 07:29:30 AM
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How can i tell if my personal wallet forked? and that im solo'ing on the right one?

I check getpeerinfo

[
{
"addr" : "184.154.116.146:13931",
"services" : "00000003",
"lastsend" : 1391930587,
"lastrecv" : 1391930587,
"bytessent" : 18592,
"bytesrecv" : 146006,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930575,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.1.1.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 11797,
"banscore" : 0,
"syncnode" : true
},
{
"addr" : "50.147.39.37:13931",
"services" : "00000003",
"lastsend" : 1391930577,
"lastrecv" : 1391930579,
"bytessent" : 229,
"bytesrecv" : 8397,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930575,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.0.0.1/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 8211,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "71.105.130.10:13931",
"services" : "00000003",
"lastsend" : 1391930596,
"lastrecv" : 1391930592,
"bytessent" : 19207,
"bytesrecv" : 175911,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930575,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.1.1.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 11797,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "149.210.168.71:13931",
"services" : "00000003",
"lastsend" : 1391930582,
"lastrecv" : 1391930587,
"bytessent" : 174,
"bytesrecv" : 7106,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930581,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.1.1.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 11797,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "162.243.115.27:13931",
"services" : "00000003",
"lastsend" : 1391930585,
"lastrecv" : 1391930583,
"bytessent" : 229,
"bytesrecv" : 7075,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930582,
"version" : 70002,
"subver" : "/Satoshi:1.1.1.2/",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : 11769,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "23.16.241.50:13931",
"services" : "00000000",
"lastsend" : 1391930583,
"lastrecv" : 0,
"bytessent" : 126,
"bytesrecv" : 0,
"blocksrequested" : 0,
"conntime" : 1391930583,
"version" : 0,
"subver" : "",
"inbound" : false,
"startingheight" : -1,
"banscore" : 0
}
]

im running wallet 1.1.1.2
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February 09, 2014, 07:36:34 AM
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How can i tell if my personal wallet forked? and that im solo'ing on the right one?

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im running wallet 1.1.1.2

We'd need your "getinfo".

You could also try: Stop your wallet, delete blockchain and peers.dat, start your wallet and look if you get the same balance as before.
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February 09, 2014, 07:43:58 AM
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did that error,seems to be gone now gone.

I was at work for a few hours and came home and it said i had found 65 blocks...

"version" : 1010102,
"protocolversion" : 70002,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : xxxx,
"blocks" : 11819,
"timeoffset" : -9,
"connections" : 8,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 0.58691038,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1391301918,
"keypoolsize" : 48,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00001000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}

but the balance is incorrect
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February 09, 2014, 08:00:32 AM
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did that error,seems to be gone now gone.

I was at work for a few hours and came home and it said i had found 65 blocks...

"version" : 1010102,
"protocolversion" : 70002,
"walletversion" : 60000,
"balance" : xxxx,
"blocks" : 11819,
"timeoffset" : -9,
"connections" : 8,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 0.58691038,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1391301918,
"keypoolsize" : 48,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00001000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}

but the balance is incorrect

I guess you were on a fork, now you are on the right chain. Sorry for your lost coins Sad I'd suggest to mine on one of the p2pools, they are very stable and are always on the right chain.
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February 09, 2014, 08:01:14 AM
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did that error,seems to be gone now gone.

I was at work for a few hours and came home and it said i had found 65 blocks...

but the balance is incorrect

You may of been on the wrong chain. We have come to believe that someone is solo mining on the wrong chain with a lot of hashing power. This my be causing the forks. If you are solo mining please delete all the "addnode"s from your config file and restart your wallet so you solo mine on the correct chain.

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February 09, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
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MPOS:cga.altcoinpool.org/
The pool is not money, who knows why?Huh? Huh
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February 09, 2014, 08:04:30 AM
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It seems that around 6:30 PST, is when the chain / fork happened. Checking debug log for more information.
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February 09, 2014, 08:12:57 AM
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Regarding getting the coin on an exchange and the overall strategy, although I was initially very supportive of getting on an exchange after some thought I have reconsidered.

I think what we need first is a clear vision for CGA, and what is being planned.

My first thoughts:

1. Clear up the current challenges around forking / and the nodes and ensure we have a really stable ecosystem to support the coin, this is crucial
2. Ensure that any future releases/updates are done only when all compiled wallets are available
3. Try to move to a position where it is less important which version of the wallet is being used - I think there is a clear difference between the infrastructure (pools, nodes, etc.) and ordinary end users; when the number of users gets large this will become more and more challenging if not addressed
4. If possible, consider reducing the total number of coins that *could* be generated.  I will confess, I am in two minds about this: on the one hand I like the idea of completely future proofing CGA, and I realise that the theoretical maximum is just that and the real number will likely be far lower; but on the other hand I think a max number in the billions sends the wrong message for a "rare" coin. 
5. Progress the branding - we have the logo contest (though in truth I see little wrong with the current logo); it would be good to have a currency symbol as well.
6. Communicate this clearly, including an indicative timeline when we think key milestones will be reached (like new releases, getting on an exchange, etc.)  - the website will need to be updated
7. Get more people involved, esp. in dev

I'm happy to do what I can (subject to other commitments like work and family ... ). Although I am definitely a techie I'm not a dev and my skills are more in organisation and planning.

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February 09, 2014, 09:14:20 AM
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i also think same. community need to decide. but community is not you and Molitor, neither me or someone else.
a poll can answer what community want easily.
i can only respect a decision about not to involve at exchanges with a poll.


No, the developers must make all decisions as to what's best for the coin. Whether you respect them is irrelevant.

They should take community opinion in account, but should not be bound by it, as too many people will vote in their own short-term self-interest and not what's best for the currency.


can you please keep your ideas -like mining more coin before more people come - to yourself.
Go make a coin and mine yourself. So you can have them all!!!

Of course a dev. can decide for the coin but there are borders he can't go without community approval.
If a dev. has ideas like hardforking coins general parameters, refusing exchanges ext. he may keep them for himself.
He need to ask to community before doing something like that or he can find himself alone. (and without coin if coin is trading at an exchange- if it has $ value- and we're saying it community takeover).



beware starmex may be a scamer i send 5 to him and he never set the ltc. i am dumb this is the second time i have been scamed on this site, i should prob not sell any more on this site, i am still over 100 so 5 really does bother me that much though.

You and rfe3 have responsibility for this.
Any of you want more issues like this to happen?

that dude wanted to buy my CGA too...
the differance between chickenliver503 and me was; i wasn't in such a hurry to send first or trade without a trustable escrow.

 s4w3d0ff: we're talking too much about 'dev' between us, sorry. I can feel you're a great guy.
My two cents are; if there are some posts- ideas- against normal process, please use 'statistics' Grin,. Math will never lie.
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February 09, 2014, 09:18:46 AM
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Regarding getting the coin on an exchange and the overall strategy, although I was initially very supportive of getting on an exchange after some thought I have reconsidered.

I think what we need first is a clear vision for CGA, and what is being planned.

My first thoughts:

1. Clear up the current challenges around forking / and the nodes and ensure we have a really stable ecosystem to support the coin, this is crucial
2. Ensure that any future releases/updates are done only when all compiled wallets are available
3. Try to move to a position where it is less important which version of the wallet is being used - I think there is a clear difference between the infrastructure (pools, nodes, etc.) and ordinary end users; when the number of users gets large this will become more and more challenging if not addressed
4. If possible, consider reducing the total number of coins that *could* be generated.  I will confess, I am in two minds about this: on the one hand I like the idea of completely future proofing CGA, and I realise that the theoretical maximum is just that and the real number will likely be far lower; but on the other hand I think a max number in the billions sends the wrong message for a "rare" coin. 
5. Progress the branding - we have the logo contest (though in truth I see little wrong with the current logo); it would be good to have a currency symbol as well.
6. Communicate this clearly, including an indicative timeline when we think key milestones will be reached (like new releases, getting on an exchange, etc.)  - the website will need to be updated
7. Get more people involved, esp. in dev

I'm happy to do what I can (subject to other commitments like work and family ... ). Although I am definitely a techie I'm not a dev and my skills are more in organisation and planning.


I agree with this in principle, but with regard to setting milestones, they must be careful not to make announcements unless they absolutely can fulfill them. You can't announce a time for a mandatory update and still be scrambling around trying to get a Window client finished, then unleash directly from the compiler to the userbase without any real testing. That is a recipe for absolute disaster.

Discuss plans and be open about things, but be careful about commitments. IOW, underpromise and overdeliver.


And the bounty shouldn't be for a windows client, the bounty should be for a VM with everything in place and ready to compile so the devs can focus on actual code instead of chasing libraries and header files.

I've worked on the Windows client and I know it's hard work. It throws such an incomprehensible amount of arcane WTF crap in your face it's almost comical... Do I have a thousand errors, or do i have one error it's telling me about a thousand times?.... Ahhh, good times. Good times.

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February 09, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
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UP +++
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February 09, 2014, 09:50:53 AM
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Regarding getting the coin on an exchange and the overall strategy, although I was initially very supportive of getting on an exchange after some thought I have reconsidered.

I think what we need first is a clear vision for CGA, and what is being planned.

My first thoughts:

1. Clear up the current challenges around forking / and the nodes and ensure we have a really stable ecosystem to support the coin, this is crucial
2. Ensure that any future releases/updates are done only when all compiled wallets are available
3. Try to move to a position where it is less important which version of the wallet is being used - I think there is a clear difference between the infrastructure (pools, nodes, etc.) and ordinary end users; when the number of users gets large this will become more and more challenging if not addressed
4. If possible, consider reducing the total number of coins that *could* be generated.  I will confess, I am in two minds about this: on the one hand I like the idea of completely future proofing CGA, and I realise that the theoretical maximum is just that and the real number will likely be far lower; but on the other hand I think a max number in the billions sends the wrong message for a "rare" coin. 
5. Progress the branding - we have the logo contest (though in truth I see little wrong with the current logo); it would be good to have a currency symbol as well.
6. Communicate this clearly, including an indicative timeline when we think key milestones will be reached (like new releases, getting on an exchange, etc.)  - the website will need to be updated
7. Get more people involved, esp. in dev

I'm happy to do what I can (subject to other commitments like work and family ... ). Although I am definitely a techie I'm not a dev and my skills are more in organisation and planning.


I agree with this in principle, but with regard to setting milestones, they must be careful not to make announcements unless they absolutely can fulfill them. You can't announce a time for a mandatory update and still be scrambling around trying to get a Window client finished, then unleash directly from the compiler to the userbase without any real testing. That is a recipe for absolute disaster.

Discuss plans and be open about things, but be careful about commitments. IOW, underpromise and overdeliver.



I agree completely and that is why I called them "milestones" and not a plan.  Perhaps I wasn't wholly crystal clear, but what I meant was, something like:

A. stabilise ecosystem - during February
B. re-fresh wallet (perhaps with key features x and y), v1.1.1.N - late Feb/early March
C. target exchange listing March
D. etc.

So these would form a provisional timeline and you would nail down each item with exact dates as you got closer.

Also I don't think we should over-engineer it - it is not about providing a detailed plan,  rather to show here is a coin with a real vision.
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February 09, 2014, 10:04:22 AM
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Because it came up in the last few posts:
I'll offer an escrow service for CGA trades. I think I built enough trust in the CGA community to provide this kind of service successfully. Sawedoff gave his blessing already, I just want to ask you to put my offer in your opening post. My fee is 0.1 %. Thank you!

If there are any trades you might consider, drop me a line and I'll arrange everything.

Back to the discussion about how the coin is developing: Get a plan first (as I already wrote like 1080 times before), build a realistic timeline and then go to work. I'd be happy to help you with all kinds of planing, that wouldn't be the first software product I'd consulting. Besides that I agree totally to the posting containing the topic of leadership and decision-maker: There HAS to be ONE policy maker, MANY will not work properly. Sawedoff, for god's sake, grab your guts and tell us what to do Smiley

I already made a sumit a few days ago, you can use this todo list to build up a priorized (or priorised?) task board, assign tasks to people you trust and you think they'll get the job done IN TIME AND QUALITY.

This is not about tasks, this is about how to organize the community and the contributers. First: Build up a process; Second: Define the tasks; Third: Do your work.
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February 09, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
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OK, quick update - I had an issue with my wallet overnight: it stopped receiving payments at 0248 (GMT) although my miner was still running.

I am on Windows 8.1 and I did the following:

1. backed up the entire directory C:\Users\<my ID>\AppData\roaming\Cryptographicanomoly

2. separately and additionally backed up my wallet.dat

3. deleted everything in C:\Users\<my ID>\AppData\roaming\Cryptographicanomoly except wallet.dat and Cryptographicanomoly.conf

4. edited Cryptographicanomoly.conf and removed all entries and saved as an empty file

5. downloaded the latest Windows client from http://cganomaly.com/ (I actually thought I already had it, but did it anyway)

6. backed up the entire directory C:\Program Files(x86)\Cryptographicanomaly

7. there are two files in this directory (the .exe and a DLL) I deleted both

8. Extracted the new client files to C:\Program Files(x86)\Cryptographicanomaly

9. Created a new shortcut on the desktop from the cryptographicanomoly-qt.exe

10. re-started the client and waited for it to re-synch

That worked.
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February 09, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
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OK, quick update - I had an issue with my wallet overnight: it stopped receiving payments at 0248 (GMT) although my miner was still running.

I am on Windows 8.1 and I did the following:

1. backed up the entire directory C:\Users\<my ID>\AppData\roaming\Cryptographicanomoly

2. separately and additionally backed up my wallet.dat

3. deleted everything in C:\Users\<my ID>\AppData\roaming\Cryptographicanomoly except wallet.dat and Cryptographicanomoly.conf

4. edited Cryptographicanomoly.conf and removed all entries and saved as an empty file

5. downloaded the latest Windows client from http://cganomaly.com/ (I actually thought I already had it, but did it anyway)

6. backed up the entire directory C:\Program Files(x86)\Cryptographicanomaly

7. there are two files in this directory (the .exe and a DLL) I deleted both

8. Extracted the new client files to C:\Program Files(x86)\Cryptographicanomaly

9. Created a new shortcut on the desktop from the cryptographicanomoly-qt.exe

10. re-started the client and waited for it to re-synch

That worked.


Thank you so much for documenting your steps, this how-to should be listed on the website!
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February 09, 2014, 10:13:03 AM
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Because it came up in the last few posts:
I'll offer an escrow service for CGA trades. I think I built enough trust in the CGA community to provide this kind of service successfully. Sawedoff gave his blessing already, I just want to ask you to put my offer in your opening post. My fee is 0.1 %. Thank you!

If there are any trades you might consider, drop me a line and I'll arrange everything.

Back to the discussion about how the coin is developing: Get a plan first (as I already wrote like 1080 times before), build a realistic timeline and then go to work. I'd be happy to help you with all kinds of planing, that wouldn't be the first software product I'd consulting. Besides that I agree totally to the posting containing the topic of leadership and decision-maker: There HAS to be ONE policy maker, MANY will not work properly. Sawedoff, for god's sake, grab your guts and tell us what to do Smiley

I already made a sumit a few days ago, you can use this todo list to build up a priorized (or priorised?) task board, assign tasks to people you trust and you think they'll get the job done IN TIME AND QUALITY.

This is not about tasks, this is about how to organize the community and the contributers. First: Build up a process; Second: Define the tasks; Third: Do your work.

 Huh

may i hear what made you trustable enough to make people send you for example 10-20 CGA and  0.1-1 btc ?


Date Registered:  January 05, 2014, 10:21:44 AM

you may have a new account at March noone knows..

according to bitcointalk, you're 0 trustable.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=211368

EDIT: that's why i and people who think like me want exchange..
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Because it came up in the last few posts:
I'll offer an escrow service for CGA trades. I think I built enough trust in the CGA community to provide this kind of service successfully. Sawedoff gave his blessing already, I just want to ask you to put my offer in your opening post. My fee is 0.1 %. Thank you!

If there are any trades you might consider, drop me a line and I'll arrange everything.

Back to the discussion about how the coin is developing: Get a plan first (as I already wrote like 1080 times before), build a realistic timeline and then go to work. I'd be happy to help you with all kinds of planing, that wouldn't be the first software product I'd consulting. Besides that I agree totally to the posting containing the topic of leadership and decision-maker: There HAS to be ONE policy maker, MANY will not work properly. Sawedoff, for god's sake, grab your guts and tell us what to do Smiley

I already made a sumit a few days ago, you can use this todo list to build up a priorized (or priorised?) task board, assign tasks to people you trust and you think they'll get the job done IN TIME AND QUALITY.

This is not about tasks, this is about how to organize the community and the contributers. First: Build up a process; Second: Define the tasks; Third: Do your work.

 Huh

may i hear what made you trustable enough to make people send you for example 10-20 CGA and  0.1-1 btc ?


Date Registered:  January 05, 2014, 10:21:44 AM

you may have a new account at March noone knows..

according to bitcointalk, you're 0 trustable.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=211368

EDIT: that's why i and people who think like me want exchange..

So you are trusting a website (like https://poloniex.com/ which is registered since 10th Jan 2014 and the person behind it hides with godaddy) more than a person who pays bounties (20 CGA, ask Snard), is active in bulding up CGA (ask sawedoff), runs multiple nodes (ask sawedoff, 0btc, everyone connected to my servers) and has a pool with more than 2/3rd of the whole CGA network (ask all other pool owners)?

Do you really think I invest like 1 BTC (my time not counting) to steal a few CGA. Come on.
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