It's Time For Theymos To Kill The Alt Section

[ltcifc]

I heard giveaways are coming back.

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[zackclark70]

Altcoins on this forum need to be fully allowed or fully banned anything in-between would just cause far more problems than it solves   

[the_poet]

The whole AltCoin thing is getting trivial and ridiculous. Does BitcoinTalk want to be associated with such things?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437695.0

[hilariousandco]

Altcoins on this forum need to be fully allowed or fully banned anything in-between would just cause far more problems than it solves  

Kinda how I feel. I think having a separate giveaway subforum would've been a simpler solution and then everybody would've been happy. People still post a lot of giveaways but link to their own crappy forum, so the threads are still there, they just don't get many posts.

[zackclark70]

Altcoins on this forum need to be fully allowed or fully banned anything in-between would just cause far more problems than it solves  

Kinda how I feel. I think having a separate giveaway subforum would've been a simpler solution and then everybody would've been happy. People still post a lot of giveaways but link to their own crappy forum, so the threads are still there, they just don't get many posts.

Its not that hard for a coin to make its own forum ( I host forums for a bunch of coins )

It takes me 5 mins to make a forum and costs £25 a year for the domain and server costs if a coin doesn't have its own forum it is total junk

all that we need on bitcointalk is an announcement / information thread the rest can be on the coins own forum but the main issue is getting people to join the coins forum when everyone is already on bitcointalk

[hilariousandco]

Altcoins on this forum need to be fully allowed or fully banned anything in-between would just cause far more problems than it solves  

Kinda how I feel. I think having a separate giveaway subforum would've been a simpler solution and then everybody would've been happy. People still post a lot of giveaways but link to their own crappy forum, so the threads are still there, they just don't get many posts.

Its not that hard for a coin to make its own forum ( I host forums for a bunch of coins )

It takes me 5 mins to make a forum and costs £25 a year for the domain and server costs if a coin doesn't have its own forum it is total junk

all that we need on bitcointalk is an announcement / information thread the rest can be on the coins own forum but the main issue is getting people to join the coins forum when everyone is already on bitcointalk

That's too much time for most of these devs. Most don't care about community or longevity and just want quick profits. The forums for these crapcoins would be dead anyway. Just look at Litecoins forum. Barely any activity over there at all.

[zemario]

I don't care if the alt coin forum is there or not. People can scam each other as much as they want. What I do care about is the value this forum represents to me. I use it to get informed. Or if I feel confused about a specific topic, I can get input from other members. Or of course, contribute with my opinion.
Now, that value is clearly being eroded. I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

Worry not about scamers, click the "show unread posts since last visit", the amount of stupid people pouring in bitcointalk and the eagerness most of them have to be scammed is of biblical dimension. It is so extreme that it passed beyond being entertaining.

[r3wt]

The day when a bunch of fucking crybabies whine about what can and can't be posted in their internet forums is the day you have to start really wondering what you're doing with your life. Entitlement and delusions of granduer.....hoooooooooo!!!!!!!

Where exactly is he "whining"?  I take his opinion just as valid as anyone else's whether or not I agree with it.

That's exactly the point I'm making. It's just his opinion. Someone blowing smoke because (it seems anyway) like someone pissed in the OPs wheaties, every day, for 20-30 consecutive years. If the admins think the section should go, they'll say something. In the meantime, making threads about it, especially taking the time to go to said alt forums despite the fact you explicitly state you do not like it, is not only ironic but laughable. Because owning bitcoin and alt coins and talking about them is a pissing contest. Right?

Don't get me wrong, I am so glad the give aways were banned. And I am getting tired of people generating stupid coins with no value, intrinsic or monetary. But there's better ways to fix those problems rather than be a Nazi about it.

You win the internet award for dumbest argument ever.

your argument in one sentence:

"I know the Alt Section is a problem, but the best way to fix it is to do nothing."

bullet proof logic.

[Akka]

I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

You are. Go to Profile and click "Ignore Board Preferences". Mark all Boards you don't want to see. I did this a long time ago, it's as if the altcoin board wouldn't exist.

But still it let's this forum look really spammy and scammy for visitors. (And People like you who don't know this)

[hilariousandco]

I don't care if the alt coin forum is there or not. People can scam each other as much as they want. What I do care about is the value this forum represents to me. I use it to get informed. Or if I feel confused about a specific topic, I can get input from other members. Or of course, contribute with my opinion.
Now, that value is clearly being eroded. I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

Worry not about scamers, click the "show unread posts since last visit", the amount of stupid people pouring in bitcointalk and the eagerness most of them have to be scammed is of biblical dimension. It is so extreme that it passed beyond being entertaining.

You can ignore the alt coin forum in your preferences.

[r3wt]

I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

You are. Go to Profile and click "Ignore Board Preferences". Mark all Boards you don't want to see. I did this a long time ago, it's as if the altcoin board wouldn't exist.

But still it let's this forum look really spammy and scammy for visitors. (And People like you who don't know this)

Between shady hardware companies, fly by night bitcoin services, and the alt forum this site looks like a scammer haven to the general public.

[Akka]

I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

You are. Go to Profile and click "Ignore Board Preferences". Mark all Boards you don't want to see. I did this a long time ago, it's as if the altcoin board wouldn't exist.

But still it let's this forum look really spammy and scammy for visitors. (And People like you who don't know this)

Between shady hardware companies, fly by night bitcoin services, and the alt forum this site looks like a scammer haven to the general public.

Don't forget the Gambling, "Cloud Mining", etc. Advertising in 50% of the sigs.

Like I already posted in this thread:

Well, something needs to be done for sure.

Not only the alcoin section but other thing as well. If I would come here as a totally new user that had no Idea about Bitcoin.

The first thing I would see are endless coins trying to convince me to invest in them. As soon as I enter a Thread, I see countless People advertising in bright red colours some gambling sites, dodgy investments or again useless coins in their sig.

This whole place looks like a site for HYIPs and not for a developing currency that wants to be taken seriously.

If I had no Idea about Bitcoin and the first thing I would find where this forum, I would very quickly come to the conclusion that Bitcoin is some kind of ponzi sheme and would immediately leave and never come back.

[zemario]

I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

You are. Go to Profile and click "Ignore Board Preferences". Mark all Boards you don't want to see. I did this a long time ago, it's as if the altcoin board wouldn't exist.

But still it let's this forum look really spammy and scammy for visitors. (And People like you who don't know this)

Thank you!

[hilariousandco]

I want to be able to ignore the alt coin forum.

You are. Go to Profile and click "Ignore Board Preferences". Mark all Boards you don't want to see. I did this a long time ago, it's as if the altcoin board wouldn't exist.

But still it let's this forum look really spammy and scammy for visitors. (And People like you who don't know this)

Between shady hardware companies, fly by night bitcoin services, and the alt forum this site looks like a scammer haven to the general public.

It pretty much is a scammer heaven but there's not much you can really do about that. Unfortunately some of the benefits of Bitcoin are also of great benefit to scammers.

[zackclark70]

I think the main thing that's holding back altcoins right now is all the coins that have stupid names and insane 10% + premine / instamine 

[dewdeded]

Let me mod this section. I sort every thread and assure all rules are followed.

Theymos: I do it for free, don't need to pay me like the other mods.

[SaltySpitoon]

Let me mod this section. I sort every thread and assure all rules are followed.

Theymos: I do it for free, don't need to pay me like the other mods.

Trust me, if you think you want the job. You don't. I still enjoy it, but it was a whole lot more fun when you could get to know the different coin communities individually. Now there aren't really communities, there is a developer or dev team, people that are looking for profit switching opportunities, one or two die hard users for whatever reason, and two or three users that constantly trash talk other coins and recommend their coin. The amounts scale as the userbase gets larger, but it always seems to be in the same ratios.

I have observed very very few people that are qualified for the job, but I do have a small list should Theymos ever ask for my recommendations.

[r3wt]

Let me mod this section. I sort every thread and assure all rules are followed.

Theymos: I do it for free, don't need to pay me like the other mods.

Trust me, if you think you want the job. You don't. I still enjoy it, but it was a whole lot more fun when you could get to know the different coin communities individually. Now there aren't really communities, there is a developer or dev team, people that are looking for profit switching opportunities, one or two die hard users for whatever reason, and two or three users that constantly trash talk other coins and recommend their coin. The amounts scale as the userbase gets larger, but it always seems to be in the same ratios.

I have observed very very few people that are qualified for the job, but I do have a small list should Theymos ever ask for my recommendations.

you sure wouldn't want me as a mod. every altcoin release thread that didn't cut the mustard would be straight to the trash can in two shakes of a lambs tail.

my reasoning is simple:

when i came here i wanted to make money but didn't know how and didn't have any technical skills. so i first started a few petty scams, got caught..
yada yada.

then i made a half ass faucet script in php. used it to get bounties which i'd dump shamelessly on cryptsy. scamming scamming scamming, never contributing anything.

then i discovered i could make a few pump and dump coins(Nanotoken and Jcoin), then i got Ballsy and tried to rip off iGotSpots(Gascoin) and this is really where i learned a valuable lesson (and got in a bit of hot water as well)thanks to BCX forking the coin(Nanotoken) and a couple major investors came calling giving me the what for. First of all, it doesn't justify my actions previous to what i've been doing lately (OpenEx & OpenSourceCoin), but the bottom line is, if you force people to pursue other ways of making money in this community(by banning alt releases on the forum), it might force them to pursue other options(like i have done
). given other options, some of them might learn how to actually code, offer pr services, start a business etc. sky is the limit. Sorry for the ADD style rant, but this is really my complete thoughts on this subject.

I know my opinions probably aren't worth much due to all the bridges i've burned, but i believe that most scammers only desire is to be successful and accepted by their peers. if perhaps we started some type of community workshops geared towards bitcoin/altcoins or something of the sort, we could probably avert a bit of the scamming, and maybe just maybe have a few more good members who contribute meaningfully to the community.

TLDR;
I scammed people, so take it from me. ban altcoin release threads and force these people to contribute something notable to the community, by eliminating their easy honey hole(pump and dump coins).

[ltcifc]

Its time for this thread to be closed cos it does not make sense.

[Singlebyte]

Its time for this thread to be closed cos it does not make sense.

Time to be closed because it DOES make sense.....