I thought about this aswell.
Pros:
- Much cleaner and slick.
- The whole "contact" column doesn't take 2 lines anymore.
Cons:
- Icons disappearing if the image proxy goes down (like today).
Overall, I agree with these changes. Maybe change the last icon to Telegram's icon.
Thank you for your input, if someone can provide me icons for all three forms of contact that I can legitimately use, I won't mind changing them.
Thank you for providing help. Much appreciated. I never thought about this until you sent me a message. Seems like everybody likes the idea of it,so why not?
As there's much talk about the escrowed amount (I have a feeling some shots are coming my way). I gave the $100k estimated over the time of me managing campaigns which has been over the last 6-8months or so.
I have however done escrows for more than that, I did two Satori Group Buys, one in December last year and one in January this year. The latest one was the largest where I held, and paid for the total order, over $170,000. I did not want to add that as I didn't see it was related to my managing services. But getting unsure now what people are getting at, if trust is the main focus then I guess escrowed deals such as that one is worth mentioning?
EDIT; Great job on the thread so far and it's nice to see you are open to any and all suggestions pugman. Really appreciate the time you spend on it!
Thank you so much,Hhampuz. No one is throwing shots at you,I can assure you that
. People are just being subjective. Everyone I chose to be on the list is for a reason,they know how to handle their shit.
Anyhow,coming back to the
max amount held discussion,
I would need the managers to provide me blockchain evidence of them holding that amount at a point of time with a signed message. I am sorry for causing so much trouble but I assure you it is for the best and I am trying to do whatever I possibly can to make yourself look as a better manager to everyone else out there.
I suggest this kind of change instead (brevity is best):
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*changed the table headings and some of the data.
I liked the suggestion,thank you.
I know that when I talk about things that you don't like I would be the retard, let me dumb it down. dealing with DT members in hopes of receiving positive trust is farming trust. since people have several alt accounts, they could also give their own accounts positive trust or better yet if they have a DT1 account, they could add their own alt accounts on DT2. leaving positive trust with no reference is equal to scamming. let me explain why. imagine a DT1-2 member has left positive trust on people with no reference, so far everything is OK, we could say that we should trust that DT1-2 member, then a DT2 member would tag somebody red just because that DT2 member is a bully and the same DT1-2 member whom we were trusting before wouldn't give a fuck about the actions of that bully DT2 member. that means DT1-2 member is no longer trusted and nobody should trust his/her positive feedbacks with no reference. why?
Because that DT1-2 member doesn't care about others and would only want us to trust his/her words. that is untrustworthy behavior and anybody acting that way should not be trusted.
That is bound to happen, unless theymos decides to go against people having alt-accounts. The trust system is not the best,and I don't know why I am discussing this here. I am retarded too. Chuck. But know this,not everyone cares about the trust and not everyone is involved in trust farming,that is big accusation to make without *any proof*. Some people are true bitcoiners,so just oblige to that and be done with it. Accusations like these would not take you anywhere,and this would really go hard on your
campaign management services. I can just tell you that for now.
Much better but you'll be using a lot of words for the heading part (try "Max Amount Held" instead).
- For the equivalent amount part (100,000$ worth of BTC), make sure to link its transaction ID to blockchain.info explorer (so advertisers could hover over the amount and see the exact worth at that time).
- Not sure if there's another explorer with that functionality.
- In case someone held certain amount across multiple transactions, just use (ex. 100,000$ worth of BTC [1, 2 and 3]).
I like it but if you view it by any resolution lower than 1600 x 900, it appears distorted:
- We can combine three columns (Past Work, ANN thread and # campaigns managed) into one (ANN Thread).
- Everyone should have their own announcement threads (mandatory).
- There's no point in having "SMAS list" column (for the advertisers) as well.
| | | Username | | | Contact | | | Mode of Payment | | | Max # Participants | | | ANN thread | | | Max Amount Held | | | Default Trust | | |
| | | | | | | | | BTC/Alts | | | Unlimited | | | | | | 0.4 BTC | | | 27:-0/+4 | | |
* Distortion starts on resolutions lower than 1152 x 864.
Thank you for the suggestion,SFR10!
There are a few issues though:
- Not every manager has an ANN thread,and some are sort of hesitant to create one(?). So until then I can't remove the 3 columns.
- Not every manager remembers the exact highest amount they held at a time because it overlapped with their other campaigns. And blockchain evidence is
kind of hard to find.
- I don't know about the SMAS list,not everyone has it and not everyone who has it,has kept it updated. For example,the
DarkList™ hasn't been updated in a few weeks now because ChipMixer campaign has been full for a while.
The idea can be implemented but not immediately. It'll take a while definitely for things to be put together properly.
There should probably be a distinction between campaign managers and also escrows. Not all campaign managers are escrows nor should all of them be defacto trusted to be one. Maybe the value should be removed all together especially as people might just start using it to base who is most trustworthy or not.
Yep,gonna change that column in a few hours/tomorrow. Probably
.
I like it, the layout is better when it's less wide.
I've changed one thing in your quote: I've added
alt-text:
[img alt=Email]
[img alt=PM]
[img alt=Telegram]
This way, if the image doesn't load, it shows a text hyperlink.
Thanks for the suggestion.
The combo of text/image hyperlink makes things easier when images are down.
If you start showing txids, you'll need a signed message to prove it was owned by the campaign manager too. Many of the campaigns I've managed for Rollin.io were off-chain. I had full access to the funds, but without a chain record.
I will need a signed message and only relating to signature or other campaigns. Giveaways probably wouldn't count as it is not relevant to campaign management.
This isn't the place for accusations, please open yet another thread in
Reputation.
Its digaran,he'll talk about DT members and trust abuse/farming anywhere he possibly can.
Reserved. Thank you for listing the best bounty manager. I frequently saw some of the names are mentioned in other topics and all say that they are the very good and prfofessional. Just out of my curiosity, a bounty manager can handle how many ICO one time? Cos a bounty program nomally last around 8 weeks.
Correction: Campaign Manager. They can handle bounties,but they would prefer signature campaigns( with bitcoin payments). Usually managers handle like 1-2 campaigns at a time, some people handle 5-10 too(yahoo62278 for example).
I will vouch for this format. It's much simplified. All possible information can be scanned very quickly, for visitors - it's much more user friendly.
For details, the visitors can visit the ANN thread. You need to give them a reason to read the ANN threads too.
pugman needs to keep up with the dynamic columns. So, the less dynamic columns the table will have the better for him to update information.
Dynamic columns on the quoted one in this post-
Max Amount Held: Once the value exists the previous one the the information need to be updated.
Default Trust: It's gonna change every now and then so the OP needs to keep up with the update.
Dynamic columns in the current table (OP)-
Past Work: Needed to be updated after every campaign the finish.
No. of campaigns managed: Same like past work
Amount Escrowed: This needed to be updated even for every new campaign the user starts.
Default Trust: Already explained
I will keep updating the columns whenever I can, maybe not immediately but I'll do it.
For the ANN thread, like I said, some managers don't have it, some don't update it. Until that is taken care of, the columns are likely to stay. Thanks for the suggestion. Much appreciated.
Thank you everyone for putting in your input. I'll see what I can do, will send another set of PMs again to the managers. And I'll update the OP, once I get all the relevant information.
Lutpin hasn't responded to any of my PMs yet, so if any one can reach out to him, it'd be much appreciated and would really be helpful.
