spooderman
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August 23, 2014, 09:33:51 AM |
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Yes great luck and the changing address every payout needs to happen yesterday! Kudos to those working on it.
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Society doesn't scale.
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"There should not be any signed int. If you've found a signed int
somewhere, please tell me (within the next 25 years please) and I'll
change it to unsigned int." -- Satoshi
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Luke-Jr
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August 23, 2014, 01:02:52 PM |
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Ok time for a good comment, the luck gods like us 14 blocks in the last 24 hours
Heathen! This is why we have bad luck! Pray to the true God and His faithful St. Eligius.
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lightfoot
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
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August 23, 2014, 01:20:46 PM |
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It's because I popped back in. Now let's see if I can pick up that 5% of shelved shares that's been sitting out there for a few months. Speaking of which, any way to figure out the bitcoin value of one's shelved shares?
C
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Luke-Jr
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August 23, 2014, 01:21:48 PM |
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It's because I popped back in. Now let's see if I can pick up that 5% of shelved shares that's been sitting out there for a few months. Speaking of which, any way to figure out the bitcoin value of one's shelved shares? You can calculate it from the percentage, but that's a meaningless number.
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lightfoot
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
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August 23, 2014, 01:44:57 PM |
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It's because I popped back in. Now let's see if I can pick up that 5% of shelved shares that's been sitting out there for a few months. Speaking of which, any way to figure out the bitcoin value of one's shelved shares? You can calculate it from the percentage, but that's a meaningless number. Sort of did that in my head yesterday, however it does have a bit of meaning: If the amount I simply will never get back in shelved shares exceeds 5% then it would have made more logical sense to mine straight pps at 5%. Of course luck is simply that, luck. However given that bitcon is a true no house edge system then there must be 50% of the people as "winners" to offset the 50% as "losers". Actually I never thought about this but: Do shelved shares "depreciate" in value as difficulty goes up, or are they paid at the value they had in terms of finding a solution when they were mined? C
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Luke-Jr
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August 23, 2014, 02:10:49 PM |
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If the amount I simply will never get back in shelved shares exceeds 5% then it would have made more logical sense to mine straight pps at 5%. This is true, if you trust the PPS pool to take on that risk and not run off with the bitcoins... Are there any PPS pools left? Of course luck is simply that, luck. However given that bitcon is a true no house edge system then there must be 50% of the people as "winners" to offset the 50% as "losers". Not quite. Stale blocks (which are the only reason shelved shares won't reach 0%) are wasted hashing on the network. So nobody "wins" there. Actually I never thought about this but: Do shelved shares "depreciate" in value as difficulty goes up, or are they paid at the value they had in terms of finding a solution when they were mined? They're counted as a percentage of block subsidy. So they're paid based on the original difficulty, but once the block subsidy halves, they lose half their apparent value also.
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CanaryInTheMine
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between a rock and a block!
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August 23, 2014, 04:16:52 PM |
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What do you think about Matt Corallo's backbone idea for Eligius?
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lightfoot
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
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August 23, 2014, 04:19:58 PM |
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This is true, if you trust the PPS pool to take on that risk and not run off with the bitcoins... Are there any PPS pools left?
Eclipsemc is still up and running. They've been quite fair overall, I've mined DGM with them for awhile and although it's maddening when it takes days to hit a block there are those 5 block days that send things all over. So it pretty much evens out. My son mines with PPS, and he's running at the expected 95% rate. True about stale blocks, collisions are a loss. I've sometimes thought that a huge pool would have a very *slight* advantage in the first few seconds because they would be the only ones mining on a "new" block while the block propagates as solved to the other pools, but that's a small advantage and the only one I really could think of. As for the shelved shares system, that sounds quite fair, nice way to do it. Granted when the payout halves they will lose value, but until then it's better than having them track the work one did at the time one did the work. C
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xstr8guy
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August 24, 2014, 04:25:47 AM |
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This is true, if you trust the PPS pool to take on that risk and not run off with the bitcoins... Are there any PPS pools left?
Eclipsemc is still up and running. They've been quite fair overall, I've mined DGM with them for awhile and although it's maddening when it takes days to hit a block there are those 5 block days that send things all over. So it pretty much evens out. My son mines with PPS, and he's running at the expected 95% rate. True about stale blocks, collisions are a loss. I've sometimes thought that a huge pool would have a very *slight* advantage in the first few seconds because they would be the only ones mining on a "new" block while the block propagates as solved to the other pools, but that's a small advantage and the only one I really could think of. As for the shelved shares system, that sounds quite fair, nice way to do it. Granted when the payout halves they will lose value, but until then it's better than having them track the work one did at the time one did the work. C The 2nd biggest pool is 4% PPS... DiscusFish. And yes, it's a public pool.
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robyone
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August 24, 2014, 10:37:39 AM Last edit: August 25, 2014, 12:50:04 PM by robyone |
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blockchain.info is showing 3 blocks in last 6 hours: 317254 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 10:19:49 00000000000000002bf5c1b98e4686f9675b6a7d4c00e94b5aa2ed3463339b8f 317248 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 09:28:38 000000000000000009965f11eea44470f7122ba63535d7b74cdd9bd95d1239a2 317228 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 04:31:07 000000000000000029f8ddca13878ddd9c9b616b91238bd28c474cb1deae57cb but Eligius stats home page shows two: 12 minutes 2014-08-24 04:32:54 05:48:45 48,542,819,584 23.84G 49.1% 9,963.67 Th 2 of 120 12igyTG1TB... 317,254 ...4b5aa2ed3463339b8f 6 hours 2014-08-24 00:40:29 03:52:25 32,256,559,360 23.84G 73.9% 9,934.81 Th 28 of 120 19chYFuCv1... 317,228 ...d28c474cb1deae57cb is this blockchain.info not showing correct info or is it Eligius stats page, regarding block: 000000000000000009965f11eea44470f7122ba63535d7b74cdd9bd95d1239a2 ? EDIT: I now understand that I was wrong to ask this, because actually blockchain.info can not possibly know for sure where the block originates from, it is just a good guess, more info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123726.0
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Luke-Jr
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August 24, 2014, 12:40:27 PM |
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blockchain.info is showing 3 blocks in last 6 hours: 317254 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 10:19:49 00000000000000002bf5c1b98e4686f9675b6a7d4c00e94b5aa2ed3463339b8f 317248 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 09:28:38 000000000000000009965f11eea44470f7122ba63535d7b74cdd9bd95d1239a2 317228 (Main Chain) 2014-08-24 04:31:07 000000000000000029f8ddca13878ddd9c9b616b91238bd28c474cb1deae57cb
but Eligius stats home page shows two: 12 minutes 2014-08-24 04:32:54 05:48:45 48,542,819,584 23.84G 49.1% 9,963.67 Th 2 of 120 12igyTG1TB... 317,254 ...4b5aa2ed3463339b8f 6 hours 2014-08-24 00:40:29 03:52:25 32,256,559,360 23.84G 73.9% 9,934.81 Th 28 of 120 19chYFuCv1... 317,228 ...d28c474cb1deae57cb
is this blockchain.info not showing correct info or is it Eligius stats page, regarding block: 000000000000000009965f11eea44470f7122ba63535d7b74cdd9bd95d1239a2 ?
blockchain.info is nearly entirely misinformation in general, and is better off ignored.
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RealMalatesta
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August 24, 2014, 12:49:10 PM |
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Hm... why is my unpaid balance suddenly on 0.0 on every account?
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Luke-Jr
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August 24, 2014, 12:52:37 PM |
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Hm... why is my unpaid balance suddenly on 0.0 on every account?
Because you were paid.
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SMB-2525
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August 24, 2014, 01:05:49 PM |
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My Eligius unpaid balances dropped to 0 without payment and my hash to zero about 3 minutes ago.
The estimated total looks OK.
I am unfortunately - not at that location and did not set up a way to independently verify connectivity.
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SMB-2525
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August 24, 2014, 01:08:00 PM |
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In fact, total hashrate shows 0 on the home screen.
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Atomar
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August 24, 2014, 01:15:25 PM |
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Here to! Is the pool still up and OK ??
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ozycash
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August 24, 2014, 01:16:31 PM |
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i am mining with about 2GHs how do i lower the difficulty as 128diff does not mine well. i use cgminer. thanks in advance
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ozycash
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August 24, 2014, 01:18:21 PM |
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Here to! Is the pool still up and OK ??
seems to be for me it shows i am mining even though my earnings are not increasing
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heslo
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August 24, 2014, 01:18:53 PM |
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Same problem here too, my S3's are hashing away but nothing showing on the pool
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robyone
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August 24, 2014, 01:19:37 PM |
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My Eligius unpaid balances dropped to 0 without payment and my hash to zero about 3 minutes ago.
The estimated total looks OK.
I am unfortunately - not at that location and did not set up a way to independently verify connectivity.
I saw the same thing, went back to check at location, miners are online and hashing.
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