Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB

[baddw]

Hopefully gets all resolved or will be a few days wasted 

Bitcoin is a risky buisness, and beginners make mistake. At least you learnt something!

And lets just say that those few days worth of bitcoins are not that bad. On my side, I might I lost about 4 months of mining if Mt.Gox goes under

I learnt too. Should not have trusted the Gox.

The real lesson is never to trust your coins with any pool, online-wallet, exchange, or any other place than your own, secure wallet on your own computer.  Wallets were created for a reason.  The big exchanges are big targets for thieves, hackers, scammers, etc.  Not to mention, there is always the possibility of incompetence and/or malfeasance on the part of the pool/exchange/online-wallet owners.  Which appears to be the case with MtGox.

Eligius is great because it does not hold coins for you, they are mined straight into your wallet.  This may be a little less "user friendly" to people who do not want to set up a wallet, but it is really the most secure option.  Mined coins can never be "stolen" or "lost" from Eligius because they never belong to Eligius in the first place.  (Although I suppose Eligius could be hacked so that the next mined block goes to some arbitrary address...)

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[wizkid057]

*snip*
Although I suppose Eligius could be hacked so that the next mined block goes to some arbitrary address...

Since Eligius supports GBT mining, and the coinbase payout transaction is exposed via stratum, I have many remote servers checking for such a change so I would know immediately if the pool were not paying appropriate addresses, and I would obviously take action.

Edit: Also, there are many security measures in place on the servers themselves to prevent such changes.  The pool will actually shut down and prevent mining all together under certain conditions where the software can not perfectly reconcile the accounting data.

[baddw]

*snip*
Although I suppose Eligius could be hacked so that the next mined block goes to some arbitrary address...

Since Eligius supports GBT mining, and the coinbase payout transaction is exposed via stratum, I have many remote servers checking for such a change so I would know immediately if the pool were not paying appropriate addresses, and I would obviously take action.

Edit: Also, there are many security measures in place on the servers themselves to prevent such changes.  The pool will actually shut down and prevent mining all together under certain conditions where the software can not perfectly reconcile the accounting data.

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to insinuate anything.  I know you've got tons of checks and balances, and audits and failsafes built into the system.  I don't doubt you, your capabilities, or your motivations at all.  I certainly trust Eligius more than I trust any other pool, which is why I'm mining here.  But the fact is that all people are fallible, and all software has bugs.  It's not inconceivable that something could happen.

[CroverNo01]

Yeah been looking into it all night, Seems like the payments have hit my wallet address at Localcoins then vanished yet 1 out of 5 went though.

Have raised a ticket with localcoins and missing 0.2BTC roughly and would be pretty pissed if I never got it back.

Is there anyway to see where the coins went after they hit Localcoins ?

The address they were sent to are 1JXhZpoUnMh1vwD7SPsrQaWxYVpG5fbhSN

Missing amounts of:

2014-02-10 16:24:48 (G)   0.06262604 BTC
2014-02-09 20:03:12 (G)   0.05129054 BTC
2014-02-09 06:41:20 (G)   0.04412432 BTC
2014-02-08 15:09:20 (G)   0.04274496 BTC

Can be seen hitting the wallet anyone make sense of the account or where they went next ?

Cheers

As I can see from your miner page, the first payout was sent as a "send" transaction, not a generation transaction. (Eligius usally tries do do all payouts from generations, it is safer that way, but occasionnaly, there is a hiccup in the system and the coins are sent later, with a "send" transaction.) That's why your first payout went trough.

Now if I follow the transaction for 0.04274496 BTC on blockchain.info, I can see that the tx 76800ce837512dcb4b88bd81cb66689bcfbd7f8194eccf5a0a3d5ba7b8382277 indeed sent 0.04274496 BTC to 1JXhZpoUnMh1vwD7SPsrQaWxYVpG5fbhSN. Those 0.04274496 BTC, with some other coins,  were then spent to a bunch of other addresses.

The exchange thus really noticed the coins, but that does not mean (yet) that they "stole" them.

At this point, Eligius can do nothing for you to recover those four payments.

However, I would advise that you immediately change your mining address to somewhere else, eighter wallet you run on your computer (safest), or an e-wallet. (I find the blockchain.info wallet quite good.)

Maybe you could have luck in asking wizkid or luke-jr, the pool operator, to send the remainder of the balance as a "send" transaction instead of a generation transaction. (But I wouldn't count on that either. For security reasons, they don't accept requests to send an accout's balance to another address. But maybe asking of it to be sent to the same address, but by a different mechanism, they would accept. I don't know.)

Yeah the first payment I got came though not an issue but then I was getting rather worried when  none of the rest were coming though, I have since pulled that account and opened with Blockchain.

I have raised a ticket with Localcoins as the BTC hit my wallet then went to diffrent address. If Wizkid is reading this let me know if you can help me resolve the issue.

Hopefully gets all resolved or will be a few days wasted 

Nothing I can do since Eligius paid the coins to the address you used at the pool. Sorry. you'll have to take it up with localcoins

Yeah not a problem, learnt that mistake early even though 2 days lost nothing huge I guess. Hopefully Localcoins reply to me.

Thank though

[CanaryInTheMine]

Impressive gains lately...

Come Tuesday night and Wednesday those S1s are arriving in droves.  prepare...

[CroverNo01]

Sadly no reply from localbitcoins :/ 0.2BTC Lost the the exchange

New BTC Address is getting payments perfect,

LocalBitcoins Exhange dontations address for the sadness: 1Q39uHiGDHXNLdmNjxjzPTrHLz2a3Ci2rq 

Anyway pool speed is rocketing the two top contributors could solo mine and earn loads.

When these ants hit the pool like canary says in a few days speed will peak big.

 

[davebodger]

Sadly no reply from localbitcoins :/ 0.2BTC Lost the the exchange
New BTC Address is getting payments perfect,
LocalBitcoins Exhange dontations address for the sadness: 1Q39uHiGDHXNLdmNjxjzPTrHLz2a3Ci2rq 
Anyway pool speed is rocketing the two top contributors could solo mine and earn loads.
When these ants hit the pool like canary says in a few days speed will peak big.

I'm not so sure, I think at least some of them were already hashing.
I have seen a small drop in difficulty and a small increase in time per block over the last couple of days (looking with the BitCoin Price App.), rather than the relentless upwards increase of the past few months, so we may just be putting back on that which was taken off.

[Slesh]

Hi

 where can I find history of blocks and my rewards for them?

thanks for any help
 

[dnaleor]

Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question...

I noticed that the difference between the theoretical maximal payout and the actual payout is getting larger. Is that normal?
The large deviation started when I overclocked my miner, is this a coincidence?



edit: I added the red line. It seems that the payouts are following the red line (so the previous, non-OCed trend)

[wizkid057]

Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question...

I noticed that the difference between the theoretical maximal payout and the actual payout is getting larger. Is that normal?
The large deviation started when I overclocked my miner, is this a coincidence?

edit: I added the red line. It seems that the payouts are following the red line (so the previous, non-OCed trend)

Coincidence.  Just seems to coincide with our current unlucky streak   Hopefully things pick up soon.

[Atomar]

What is the profit using GBT instead of stratum?

Thus, GBT is a system to bring the advantages of both solomining (control over the accepted transactions) and pooled mining (lower variance), and none of the disadvantages.

Unfortunately, GBT is still a quite heavy protocol, both for the miner and the pool; thus it is not quite ready for primetime. But if you feel like it, you can GBT mine on eligius to help improve the protocol.

So.
a) If the protocol is not ready yet, why do you Support the protocol ??
b) Should I just change my BE's and try the protocol ?? Just for fun ?!
c) Is the payout the same or do I loos some earning ??

I just like to try some new things

Thanks

[dnaleor]

Hi, I have a (probably stupid) question...

I noticed that the difference between the theoretical maximal payout and the actual payout is getting larger. Is that normal?
The large deviation started when I overclocked my miner, is this a coincidence?

edit: I added the red line. It seems that the payouts are following the red line (so the previous, non-OCed trend)

Coincidence.  Just seems to coincide with our current unlucky streak   Hopefully things pick up soon.

that was what I thought, just wanted to be sure

Yes, this is a bad streak. We will see what happens... Lets hope we have better luck in the comming days, before the new difficulty jump

[BuildTheFuture]

Small improvement idea: I usually customize the payout threshold to be lower as soon as I start a new device/address hashing. But I've noticed the first payout still doesn't occur until the default threshold. After that, it works correctly.

[un_ordinateur]

So.
a) If the protocol is not ready yet, why do you Support the protocol ??
b) Should I just change my BE's and try the protocol ?? Just for fun ?!
c) Is the payout the same or do I loos some earning ??

I just like to try some new things

Thanks

a) The protocol exists, and should work, but has not been thourouly tested like Stratum. Think of it as a beta test. I -do- think it is much more functionnal now than the last time I tested, but I still remains an heavier load for the pool (not your problem I guess). (Can wizkid confirm?)
b) For fun, why not? But you'll need to have a bitcoind running on your computer.
c) Nominally, it should be the same. It will be a slightly heavier load on you computer, but since CPU don't mine anymore, the whole power of your ASIC should be used. But compare hashrates to be sure.

[Atomar]

So far so good. Thanks for your answere!

All sounds good an easy. But I don't want to set up another wallet on my pc.
So for now I will stay with stratum I guess.

[Cheeseater]

WOW the top 5 miners take 47% and the other 6340 get the crumbs. To each their fair share
Wiz looks like a manual payout coming again.

[wizkid057]

Wiz looks like a manual payout coming again.

Probably tomorrow.

[wizkid057]

Wiz looks like a manual payout coming again.

Probably tomorrow.

Nevermind, had some time so got it done tonight.

548.40421839 BTC (4.6 TBC) in manual payments applied to balances from tx 89fea198c9a8e7daeccdf7005bea2bccc8507d14faafceeed8efe10f0d9e2ddd

[roy7]

Hi there, question on stats.

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/17PHEZaiJqARt7GkBC8MLRijUDSgAgpH9P

As I post this, my 256 second shares are 11392, but my 22.5 minute (and the longer periods) shares are 7896. I was assuming the longer periods are all shares going back that far, but then the longer periods aren't apparently including the shorter more recent periods?

Edit: Ahh sorry. Just saw this "and about 675 seconds for the graphs, longer-timeframe hashrate numbers, and other datas". They update on different frequencies so that explains the confusion. Never mind.

[BuildTheFuture]

So with the video out showing KNC's new farm already partially up and running, we can guess one of those big new Eligius users is them?