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February 16, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
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I've been donating to Eligius from the fifth day connected to Eligius (after I worked out how to input the signatures to be honest), and I think they deserve it !
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February 16, 2014, 11:58:58 AM
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Alright, well, I've tweaked the stats replication code as much as possible to speed things along, but, seems that the web server just isn't nearly as fast as the core pool DB servers, so, just going to have to wait this one out I guess. Sad

Looks like its running at a little under 2x realtime, give or take, and its ~14 hours behind right now.

I'll check in on it later and see how things are going, but, as you can see the block list is slowly updating.

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What webserver software are you using? Do you have full control of it?

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February 16, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
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What webserver software are you using? Do you have full control of it?

As if wizkid057 would openly transmit what software he was using.  That's a big HACK ME sign if he did.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he's written his own server software that hangs off the pool backend.
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February 16, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
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What webserver software are you using? Do you have full control of it?

They run nginx. It's lighter weight and faster than apache.
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February 16, 2014, 02:34:56 PM
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What webserver software are you using? Do you have full control of it?

As if wizkid057 would openly transmit what software he was using.  That's a big HACK ME sign if he did.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he's written his own server software that hangs off the pool backend.
I see no problem using any of existing web/app servers. All of them can be secured properly

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February 16, 2014, 02:46:47 PM
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I've been donating to Eligius from the fifth day connected to Eligius (after I worked out how to input the signatures to be honest), and I think they deserve it !

I set up a 1% donation in each option as soon as the system would let me into the web interface. I had not even got 22.5 minute stats yet.

I think that we all should support the backbone of our network.  

If there are users with control of data centers or access to get servers in place around the world, you might think of offering some resources to WizKid.

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February 16, 2014, 03:26:07 PM
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I see no problem using any of existing web/app servers. All of them can be secured properly

You totally miss my point.
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February 16, 2014, 03:41:39 PM
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The web server runs Apache with nginx in front for caching and other speedups.  Its database is postgresql based.  The core pool servers do not accept any connections or data from the web server, but the pool servers can push data to the web server one-way via a custom setup.  Basically, if the web server gets hacked, oh well.  I just wipe and put up a backup.  The pool itself is still safe.

Looks like the catch up is running much more slowly than expected... I figured it would have been at least close to done by now.  But it is still chugging along... roughly 7 hours behind real-time now.


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February 16, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
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Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.
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February 16, 2014, 08:31:42 PM
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Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.

+1 thats only fair. Most people are too lazy to setup... or remove donation. I bet most users agree with this.
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February 16, 2014, 08:44:09 PM
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Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.

+1 thats only fair. Most people are too lazy to setup... or remove donation. I bet most users agree with this.
Make it effective your the boss.

My only disagreement with this is that it's not free money, if he's doing all the hard work Smiley

Eligius is huge. I think it would be just fine to have a default donation, as long as it says so, and I think that it would in the long run be to the advantage of the miners if there was a fee. Wizkid could either do it all the time himself or afford to hire staff, and in either case this would be good for us.
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February 16, 2014, 09:01:47 PM
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I agree, and I'd make the default donation 1/2% (total across the categories). That's still lower than most pools.
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February 16, 2014, 09:23:39 PM
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i agree
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February 16, 2014, 09:26:20 PM
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Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.

+1 thats only fair. Most people are too lazy to setup... or remove donation. I bet most users agree with this.
Make it effective your the boss.

My only disagreement with this is that it's not free money, if he's doing all the hard work Smiley

Eligius is huge. I think it would be just fine to have a default donation, as long as it says so, and I think that it would in the long run be to the advantage of the miners if there was a fee. Wizkid could either do it all the time himself or afford to hire staff, and in either case this would be good for us.

You said exactly what I was thinking!
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February 16, 2014, 09:52:52 PM
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Guys i am trying to access my status but getting this error
504 Gateway Time-out

Anybody getting the same error ? i think there is a problem with the server again or something Undecided...
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February 16, 2014, 09:57:01 PM
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Guys i am trying to access my status but getting this error
504 Gateway Time-out

Anybody getting the same error ? i think there is a problem with the server again or something Undecided...

Yea I started getting this about 10 minutes ago when I tried. :/
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February 16, 2014, 09:57:47 PM
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Guys i am trying to access my status but getting this error
504 Gateway Time-out

Anybody getting the same error ? i think there is a problem with the server again or something Undecided...

Odds are that Wizkid is working on the stats page, or has taken it down to speed things along. Those were the cases last time the page was down. As long as you're still getting shares in your miner, you're good.
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February 16, 2014, 10:00:54 PM
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Maybe set a donation of 0.01% as standard donation and let people change it to 0% in "MyEligius" if they want to. The lazy ones will not change it, the ones who can not sign messages will not change it and you will get free money for your hard work Wink

I will set up a small automatic donation also. Smiley

Great work, Wiz!

What he said.

+1 thats only fair. Most people are too lazy to setup... or remove donation. I bet most users agree with this.
Make it effective your the boss.

My only disagreement with this is that it's not free money, if he's doing all the hard work Smiley

Eligius is huge. I think it would be just fine to have a default donation, as long as it says so, and I think that it would in the long run be to the advantage of the miners if there was a fee. Wizkid could either do it all the time himself or afford to hire staff, and in either case this would be good for us.

You said exactly what I was thinking!

One last this i might add... i bet we all agree. We dont want to be running this pool on some old secondhand hardware. In this world where you can buy top notch server hardware with 5-10k$ why not take it from pool donations.... i dont wish to see this bad gateway errors when our webservers gets killed off Cheesy

call Mr. Michael Dell and order some MINT hardware.
$$$ will get some hardware thats for sure.... eaven leased from the hosting site.

Double the hardware. This pool will double in speed in no-time.
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February 16, 2014, 10:04:56 PM
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I'm fairly new to mining and have tried several pools. I'll throw my take in and then take my flaming.
Bitminter: tried it for one day and got fairly lucky made about 20% more than I would have made here, the stats are terrible in comparison to eligius, just wasn't my style.
BTC Guild: mined for a few weeks at first, but just wasn't getting a good return. The site is rock solid and Eleuthria is incredible at answering and explaining any and all questions. It's my failover and always will be.

That being said I think eligius has by far the best user stats, the fairest payouts, and by the way they have grown in the last months others feel the same way. When the site had troubles last month Wiz worked his ass off to get everything fixed all the while being accused of various baseless charges. At that point I changed my donation from zero to 3% split evenly over the available options. When I read in Wiz's post that the total donations for the coming month will be 2 BTC I was to say the least floored.

My favorite aspect of the stats is that they are there for all to see. Not one of the top twenty miners pays one crappy Satoshi towards the site and you can click on any random 100 users and odds are you'll only find one or two that donate. This is a disgrace and an insult to the founders of the site. When i read Wiz saying he had plans to invest the 2 BTC I hope he plans on using it to go out to dinner with his girlfriend. We are all using a service. If you had a coupon for a free dinner at a fancy restaurant would you leave the coupon and not tip? That 2 BTC a month is a joke for all the work people are putting into this site.

Why is Eligius growing so fast because of greedy miners who give nothing in return, sure we solve more blocks quicker, but in reality they won't leave because they're greedy and know a good deal when they see it. Maybe I'm wrong and they are donating a percentage directly to Wiz, and I hope they are he deserves it.

The last time we had an outage and Wiz worked all through the weekend and then some he setup a donation account for his girlfriend. I set one of my miners to the address and posted it here thinking people would join in and mine along. Not a one did, and after all the talk of donations a 5PH+ pool, the second or third largest takes in 2 BTC a month in donations, sad.

So here is my challenge to all the the members of the FSA (free shit army). Mine for Wizkid for a day I just set an Antminer to following eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1EdeTHebTtymUULE5bdjWzW1gbCJkP7aQH  Do the same, show that you support Eligius and show the others that greed won't be tolerated. PS I have no relation to Wizkid.
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February 16, 2014, 10:11:57 PM
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So here is my challenge to all the the members of the FSA (free shit army). Mine for Wizkid for a day I just set an Antminer to following
eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1EdeTHebTtymUULE5bdjWzW1gbCJkP7aQH  

Do the same, show that you support Eligius and show the others that greed won't be tolerated.

+1 Antminer put there for time being.
Greed is not tolerated.



ps. i hope you got the address right.
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