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June 01, 2018, 02:13:38 PM
Last edit: June 07, 2018, 04:13:34 AM by lebrone08
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After reading some of the member post and the way use their merit and smerits, it catch my attention with this account.
Can we consider this as an alt account that abuse merits system?


1.    big.pharaoh
Merit summary for big.pharaoh https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1668614

2. bolbau
Merit summary for bolbau https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1161929

3. hamade
Merit summary for hamade https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1123153

4.    LBX
Merit summary for LBX https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=842041

5.legend378
Merit summary for legend378 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1371987

6. misteid
Merit summary for misteid https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1777845

7.mohamed reda
Merit summary for mohamed reda https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1806787

NEW ACCOUNT ABUSING MERIT SYSTEM

liseff3
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8. liseff3
Merit summary for liseff3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=916663

9. WUUEX79
Merit summary for WUUEX79 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1250208


Can we consider these as an alt account managing by "LBX"?


Im letting all DT's to review this accounts and make their own decision if these kinds of account deserve some paint.

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June 01, 2018, 08:18:55 PM
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Tagged "LBX" for a month for abusing merit system.

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June 02, 2018, 02:32:31 AM
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{bolbau, legend378}
{LBX, hamade}

The above have been tagged for obvious reasons (i.e. time between merit tx's).

misteid, mohamed reda and big.pharaoh have all only received merit. The last one was kind of difficult since all the posts were deleted but if you start tagging the receiving user in merit spam, then you open up access for scammers to falsely link themselves with regular users.
Good find.

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June 02, 2018, 04:59:12 AM
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{bolbau, legend378}
{LBX, hamade}

The above have been tagged for obvious reasons (i.e. time between merit tx's).

misteid, mohamed reda and big.pharaoh have all only received merit. The last one was kind of difficult since all the posts were deleted but if you start tagging the receiving user in merit spam, then you open up access for scammers to falsely link themselves with regular users.
Good find.

Thank you for the compliment, I will continue posting some account which I think their abusing the merit system.
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June 02, 2018, 05:45:09 AM
Last edit: June 02, 2018, 08:28:38 AM by bolbau
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{bolbau, legend378}
{LBX, hamade}

The above have been tagged for obvious reasons (i.e. time between merit tx's).

misteid, mohamed reda and big.pharaoh have all only received merit. The last one was kind of difficult since all the posts were deleted but if you start tagging the receiving user in merit spam, then you open up access for scammers to falsely link themselves with regular users.
Good find.

hello thanks for your attention, let me clear this problem. that was my friend account, we are just trying a new merits system, how its really work. in this case, we are just want to know, if im sending 1 merits, hes really get 0,5 smerits to send or no. i dont sell anything. I give merits of my own will, not for any profit, you should be able to prove that im trading, do not make subjective judgments. if you think this is abusing the system, abusing for what? profit? the forum rank legend378 did not even go up, and im sending 5 merits for nothing, i do not understand why this is called abuse merits system. tell me. I can prove if im not doing any merits trading, but I want my reputation back good.

this is my prove if im not selling any merits. me and my friend is an active bounty campaigner. if you see on our daily post, you know what ETH wallet address we both have
legend378 (my friend) eth address : 0x2a868BC141599377d718032EB40baB7033791529
bolbau (me) eth address : 0x068151497c5CDe138A4d4635132A5A051fE2C336

if I selling merits, there is no transaction that legend378 has sent a number of eth to me in the time range 16 march - 1 april (giving merits). our only transaction is on the 13th of March, where I give some eth to legend378 to pay gas price. so obviously I never get any benefit from the legend 378. this is obviously just an experiment for our knowledge (merits system work).

this is our prove that legend378 is not alternative account or my second account. im searching how to know bitcointalk account ip address login history, but some thread said only moderator can do that. so we using another option to make you believe us. we really trying to solve this problem.

1. this is bolbau (me) login computer and ip address screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/CZcNHAQ

2. this is legend378 (my friend) login computer and ip address screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/6dBIIZB

you can also see our bounty campaign report that we dont have the same facebook and twitter account.

the conclusion we can give is that there is no element of abuse of merits at all, whether for personal gain or both parties. the problem is purely just our experiment to know how merits systems work. we do not really care about the number of merits we get, thanks.
I know that what we both do is not good and suspicious, here I am just trying to explain honestly. at least we both now know, what not to do with merits system.
thanks, I really appreciate your work for the good of this forum.
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June 02, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
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{bolbau, legend378}
{LBX, hamade}

The above have been tagged for obvious reasons (i.e. time between merit tx's).

misteid, mohamed reda and big.pharaoh have all only received merit. The last one was kind of difficult since all the posts were deleted but if you start tagging the receiving user in merit spam, then you open up access for scammers to falsely link themselves with regular users.
Good find.

hello thanks for your attention, let me clear this problem. that was my friend account, we are just trying a new merits system, how its really work. in this case, we are just want to know, if im sending 1 merits, hes really get 0,5 smerits to send or no. i dont sell anything. I give merits of my own will, not for any profit, you should be able to prove that im trading, do not make subjective judgments. if you think this is abusing the system, abusing for what? profit? the forum rank legend378 did not even go up, and im sending 5 merits for nothing, i do not understand why this is called abuse merits system. tell me. I can prove if im not doing any merits trading, but I want my reputation back good.

this is my prove if im not selling any merits. me and my friend is an active bounty campaigner. if you see on our daily post, you know what ETH wallet address we both have
legend378 (my friend) eth address : 0x2a868BC141599377d718032EB40baB7033791529
bolbau (me) eth address : 0x068151497c5CDe138A4d4635132A5A051fE2C336

if I selling merits, there is no transaction that legend378 has sent a number of eth to me in the time range 16 march - 1 april (giving merits). our only transaction is on the 13th of March, where I give some eth to legend378 to pay gas price. so obviously I never get any benefit from the legend 378. this is obviously just an experiment for our knowledge (merits system work).

this is our prove that legend378 is not alternative account or my second account. im searching how to know bitcointalk account ip address login history, but some thread said only moderator can do that. so we using another option to make you believe us. we really trying to solve this problem.

1. this is bolbau (me) login computer and ip address screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/CZcNHAQ

2. this is legend378 (my friend) login computer and ip address screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/6dBIIZB

you can also see our bounty campaign report that we dont have the same facebook and twitter account.

the conclusion we can give is that there is no element of abuse of merits at all, whether for personal gain or both parties. the problem is purely just our experiment to know how merits systems work. we do not really care about the number of merits we get, thanks.
I know that what we both do is not good and suspicious, here I am just trying to explain honestly. at least we both now know, what not to do with merits system.
thanks, I really appreciate your work for the good of this forum.

If this is out of your curiosity, sending 1 merits is enough but unfortunately you send  merits for how many times in just one day, this is a way to easily increase your rank. And I didn't mention any selling of merits, It just cought  my attention on how you abuse the merits system.
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June 02, 2018, 12:27:58 PM
Last edit: June 04, 2018, 10:58:30 PM by bolbau
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If this is out of your curiosity, sending 1 merits is enough but unfortunately you send  merits for how many times in just one day, this is a way to easily increase your rank. And I didn't mention any selling of merits, It just cought  my attention on how you abuse the merits system.
On March 16, 2018, 11:53:20 AM, we acknowledged that we’ve sent 1 merit, but on my friend’s  (legend378) account we fail to notice upon the 0.5 additional smerits. Due to our inexperience we tried to send our available merits to ensure the recipient (legend378) gets additional smerits.

In consequent of our inexperienced we were not aware as such action can be classified as system abuse as there was no transaction or trade being made.
as I know, my actions can be said merits abuse if both are accounts that I have. but in this case I only have one account.
I really hope there is a reconsideration related to the negative trust. at least giving us a little chance. thankyou!

i will wait 72 hours to pm actmyname
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June 05, 2018, 04:03:29 AM
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Been away from this forum a while.  What is this “merit” thing?  Man, blink an eye around here and stuff gets weird, quick.

Edit:Holy crap!  How did I get 500 merit?  Now this is awkward.
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June 05, 2018, 04:10:14 AM
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This is a PM I recently received from LBX:

hi bro

how are u i hope you are fine  Smiley

bro can you help me?

actmyname   Give me negative -1

About the same subject  "Explicit merit trading with hamade"

Please tell him
Please, help me

All the best to u Smiley

To anyone sending me ridiculous PMs like this, please note that I do not treat them as confidential and will quote them in public as I am doing now.  I did not reply to this PM, but I will now. 

I have no control over what any other member of this forum does, and even if I don't agree with a DT member's feedback on someone, I'm not going to raise a stink about it.  That's their business, and if they screw up too often they'll get booted off of DT. 

As an aside, here's another gem I received from a member I tagged.  If anyone thinks trying to bribe a member to remove negative feedback, please feel free to tag this joker as well:

Hello. Have made some low-quality posts, but made it just because of signature bounty campaign. Could you please remove your negative trust? It's all about money. Give me your telegram account, or email address, or some contacts, or just eth address Wink. Have an offers to you

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June 05, 2018, 07:07:39 AM
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This is a PM I recently received from LBX:

To anyone sending me ridiculous PMs like this, please note that I do not treat them as confidential and will quote them in public as I am doing now.  I did not reply to this PM, but I will now.  

I have no control over what any other member of this forum does, and even if I don't agree with a DT member's feedback on someone, I'm not going to raise a stink about it.  That's their business, and if they screw up too often they'll get booted off of DT.  

As an aside, here's another gem I received from a member I tagged.  If anyone thinks trying to bribe a member to remove negative feedback, please feel free to tag this joker as well:

but, can I send a message to discuss the problem, at least the DT member knows the background of the problem, so that it can be considered? I am here also for the good of the forum, at least I can realize what was wrong and given a chance to be better.
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June 05, 2018, 08:27:36 AM
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You abused the merit system, whether you want to admit it, or not.

Now you face the consequences. Deal with it.

You will NOT get your neg removed by actmyname, so you may as well just /thread right now.

Edit: Didn't realise the OP was the one who reported this in the frst place. Good catch.

As for the abusers, my message above is clear as day. Stop wasting everyone's time moaning, it's getting you absolutely nowhere.

My only payment address: 1ZephertJThxkHih7XcaUHBkMSnvkTt5u
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