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June 05, 2018, 04:55:59 PM
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I've got a fair number of projects on the go at the moment, and I don't think I am awarding enough merits to warrant the time spent hunting for posts. I've seen the threads that ask for post suggestions, and they turn into spam fests, and I don't think they are productive. I'm not able to restrict posting to threads I create, and self moderation is extra work, and can be a bit of a political tightrope. I've added a community workplace to The Source, and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions. Do you think this is a good idea? Alternatively, can anybody think of a solution that can be implemented in this forum, and will not generate a load of spam and redundant comments.

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June 05, 2018, 05:31:10 PM
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... and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions. ...
You may need Welsh as your adviser  Tongue
Unfortunately, I just keep adding to the list, and there's some pretty good posts that haven't been merited at all in there.

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June 05, 2018, 05:40:35 PM
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 Do you think this is a good idea? Alternatively, can anybody think of a solution that can be implemented in this forum, and will not generate a load of spam and redundant comments.
In another post I just wrote a moment ago replying to a user, I just stated that I wouldn’t be opposed to users creating lists of meritable posts that have gone unmerited, in much the way that merit source applicants need to do with a their list of 10 under-merited posts.

Of course, the challenge there is that these posts should not turn into spam/begging lists, so one would be inclined to require a certain member status/merit status in order to forward these lists in posts. This would be perhaps appealing to members who lack merit, but stumble across good posts that go unmerited and disappear quickly of the radar by other created/bumped threads.

In order to reduce spam, perhaps a minimum rank should be required for the under-merited post proposals, although that would block-off newer people for fear of excessive spam which defeats the objective partially.
I’m also not sure where these post should be written, since I don’t think Meta is the best place ...
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June 05, 2018, 06:06:32 PM
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Your see to be very active here based on your recent posting history. You do not come across good posts to merit in those threads where you are leaving a reply ? I do not like the idea of extra work preparing list of posts to choose from.
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June 05, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
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Maybe to ease your self, just focus on the section that you love? That way it would make the meritorious posts hunting become a fun activity because people said "do what you love man !"  Grin. There is one idea that crossed my mind tho, but it would be done if the person doing it really want to help this forum community.

Why dont you make a specific email for the post suggestion, like an email that is not using your identity so it is not trackable. So you tell people to send the post suggestion to that email and you can check on it later. That way it would reduce the number of spam in the thread you made, and you can (or not, maybe skip some because it is not a sin) read the post later. You can lock your thread on the forum and bump it once a day, that way it wont create a spam fest, at least on the forum (would be a lot of spam fest on the email tho)

It is just my opinion tho and i could be wrong  Roll Eyes
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June 05, 2018, 07:29:37 PM
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I've got a fair number of projects on the go at the moment, and I don't think I am awarding enough merits to warrant the time spent hunting for posts. I've seen the threads that ask for post suggestions, and they turn into spam fests, and I don't think they are productive. I'm not able to restrict posting to threads I create, and self moderation is extra work, and can be a bit of a political tightrope. I've added a community workplace to The Source, and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions. Do you think this is a good idea? Alternatively, can anybody think of a solution that can be implemented in this forum, and will not generate a load of spam and redundant comments.

My friend, we are in the same boat.  I have a couple projects on the go, I am flying all over the country on a weekly basis, and I am finding it hard to award merit.

I think the merit system is important though, and I love this community, so I will continue to slave on.

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June 05, 2018, 08:14:06 PM
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Your see to be very active here based on your recent posting history. You do not come across good posts to merit in those threads where you are leaving a reply ? I do not like the idea of extra work preparing list of posts to choose from.
I check here spending too much time here for merit is not going to work for many its only waste of time for merit best thing is study we need to study about this and give good and positive replies even just one or two is good enough hopefully this will work for many in future newbies like me
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June 05, 2018, 08:39:02 PM
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This is probably a good time to explain what I am up to, and why I am spending time on these projects. I believe we are heading into some major changes in banking and world economies, and we will see the failure of much of the current fiat money. Governments and banks will be introducing new pseudo-crypto currencies, and I think that Bitcoin Talk could be a great place to discuss these. To do this, there will have to be some radical changes, and we will have to lose the 'posters' who can only speak in pictures.

I want to create some sites to push for a real Brexit, and to distance the UK from the globalists. I'll be using some of the CMS that I have been experimenting with, and B2evo is an important one of these. Exploring the structure of the packages, and the way they can be used takes a fair bit of time, and is easiest if you have a project to focus on. Bitcoin Talk has provided a number of these, and once they are stabilised, they are not much effort to keep going. It doesn't take long to knock out a few post and articles every day.

The Library project was started for two reasons. I do need to reduce the time I spend looking for meritable posts, and I wanted to see if I could set up a category with a different skin on the B2evo site.  The library uses a forum like community discussion skin, and submissions can be restricted to registered members of the community. The library of submitted threads could be available for general viewing, and I think this could help junior members who want to see examples of merited posts. I won't copy the original post, but will just provide a link, and hopefully this will avoid any copyright issues. Hopefully it will also improve the image of Bitcoin Talk. It seems that the flood of posts referring to it as an easy way to get money by posting rubbish has tarnished the image a bit. I've installed the skin and activated it, and I'll customise it a bit tomorrow.

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June 05, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
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I've got a fair number of projects on the go at the moment, and I don't think I am awarding enough merits to warrant the time spent hunting for posts. I've seen the threads that ask for post suggestions, and they turn into spam fests, and I don't think they are productive. I'm not able to restrict posting to threads I create, and self moderation is extra work, and can be a bit of a political tightrope. I've added a community workplace to The Source, and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions. Do you think this is a good idea? Alternatively, can anybody think of a solution that can be implemented in this forum, and will not generate a load of spam and redundant comments.

Ablsolutly you are spending much time on forum since I am following you. Also I think that you deserve more merit  for your nice and constructive work for this forum. Sure you will get it. You are one of most helpful person on this forum. Keep it up to help more.

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June 05, 2018, 09:03:56 PM
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Well thanks for the kind words, but there is quite a lot of self-interest in my actions. When I first joined the forum, I had all sorts of ideas about the things I would do with Bitcoin, and how I could improve the structure of the blockchain. Smiley I've changed a bit, and now I see Bitcoin as a store of wealth, and I can't bring myself to spend any coins. I'm also interested in the new digital currencies when they arrive, and I think that there will be some great discussions here about them.

I'm also starting to improve the income from some of my sites, and I hope that will become even larger when I start to be politically active.

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June 05, 2018, 09:18:29 PM
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I've added a community workplace to The Source, and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions.

Do you want that we post here our comments that we think deserve merit?

Personally, I think it's getting harder to get merits. I used to get 2-3 per day easily, and I am now getting them at a much lower rate. I made a very nice post some other day which I expected to get at least 10 merits and got none.

I think that sMerits are more centralized in merit sources and high merited members, and our posts are now less exposed to members who could merited them.

I want to create some sites to push for a real Brexit, and to distance the UK from the globalists. I'll be using some of the CMS that I have been experimenting with, and B2evo is an important one of these. Exploring the structure of the packages, and the way they can be used takes a fair bit of time, and is easiest if you have a project to focus on. Bitcoin Talk has provided a number of these, and once they are stabilised, they are not much effort to keep going. It doesn't take long to knock out a few post and articles every day.


I believe that from 2016, with the election of Donald Trump and brexit, politics has entered a new phase all over the world. Even here in Brazil, now we have for the first time a conservative candidate leading all presidential polls (we always had leftists in government and opposition).

But I don't see much discussion about politics here. What kind of posts are you seeking ?

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June 05, 2018, 09:41:26 PM
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Personally, I think it's getting harder to get merits. I used to get 2-3 per day easily, and I am now getting them at a much lower rate. I made a very nice post some other day which I expected to get at least 10 merits and got none.
My personal experience is, I am getting decent amounts of merits regularly now where at the very beginning the ratio was too low for me. I did not get much even not very long ago.

However, I do believe overall merit receiving will reduce as we go ahead. There will not be many merit abusing/misusing cases.  

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June 05, 2018, 09:43:48 PM
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I believe that from 2016, with the election of Donald Trump and brexit, politics has entered a new phase all over the world. Even here in Brazil, now we have for the first time a conservative candidate leading all presidential polls (we always had leftists in government and opposition).

But I don't see much discussion about politics here. What kind of posts are you seeking ?


I'm not looking for post here, but we did hope that a guy from Brazil was going to submit a Portuguese post for translation, and re-posting in this forum, but he seems to have disappeared.

I'd be interested in the political situation in Brazil, in particular the impact of the truckers strike, maybe you could post something in the Ivory Tower to avoid it sinking into the swamp.

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June 05, 2018, 10:26:44 PM
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Then you can start your merit awarding thread, in which you can limit the user to give only 2 best post to review during a week.
Since "Joe" signature less challenge is in suspended state so you can run a one. (or both can run together.)

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June 05, 2018, 10:30:29 PM
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I've added a community workplace to The Source, and I'm considering asking responsible members to submit post suggestions. Do you think this is a good idea? Alternatively, can anybody think of a solution that can be implemented in this forum, and will not generate a load of spam and redundant comments.
- What's the guarantee that the posts suggested by responsible members will be constructive? I mean you wouldn't find all of them constructive for sure considering the subjectivity of the posts.
 - Try and merit posters in the Development & Discussion and Technical Support Section.You often come across good posters there.
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@Jet Cash, no offense, but if you don't have enough time to search for Merit worthy posts or it's to difficult to find it, maybe you shouldn't be a Merit source? You are great user of this forum and you have many ideas how to improve this forum, but I see that you have problems to spend your monthly sMerit supply.
But I like your idea. I have something similar in my minds. We have a "Report to moderator" button, maybe we also need "Report to merit source". Users would just report good unmerited posts to Merit sources. I think it would be a help for Merit sources and they would need to spend less time while searching for high quality posts.
P.S. Jet Cash, why you aren't using your Talk merit account when you talk about merit?

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June 05, 2018, 11:30:55 PM
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I see Bitcoin as a store of wealth, and I can't bring myself to spend any coins.
Can't blame you there.  Why spend bitcoin when you can get rid of your fiat first?

As far as the post search goes, I feel your frustration even though I'm not a merit source myself.  Having sMerits is like holding a hot potato sometimes, and right now I'd like to give out what I have to some lower-ranked members instead of the usual members I leave them for.  If I don't find some really good posts by members under Sr. Member rank, I'll probably just give them out to the Meta regulars--it's irrational, I know.  The sMerits I have aren't going to explode and I can be patient and take my time looking for good posts, but that's just me.

Think I'm going to un-ignore Bitcoin Discussion and see if I can find some gems.

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June 05, 2018, 11:36:53 PM
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Honestly, those ''spam'' threads are your best bet - that way you'll find at least 2 out of 10 posts that are worth a merit.

If you look at the rest of the forum you find maybe 1 in a 100 (looking at you, ANN threads)

Kudos for caring about the distribution of merits though, a lot of us that signed up after the merit system got implemented need it badly, especially from older users like yourself, because the rest of the users are too concerned with trading their merits or at least go with the ''you owe me one'' mentality and therefore a lot of actually good posts get no merits 
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Creating one of those spam threads but removing the spamming incentive strikes me as a good way to centralize potential meritable posts. If you have a requirement that posters need to be member or full member (potentially making it higher than that could have an unwanted chilling effect and the benefit of less spammers would be outweighed by the detriment to posts reported) AND had to report other users posts, then that would reduce the amount of begging, although there will likely still be the determined few.

Have you gone through other peoples merit-me threads? I've seen a list of active ones, however inactive ones would likely produce results, its just they would be dated. That way some of the work is done for you (as you can see what has already been merited or not).

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I believe that from 2016, with the election of Donald Trump and brexit, politics has entered a new phase all over the world. Even here in Brazil, now we have for the first time a conservative candidate leading all presidential polls (we always had leftists in government and opposition).

But I don't see much discussion about politics here. What kind of posts are you seeking ?


I'm not looking for post here, but we did hope that a guy from Brazil was going to submit a Portuguese post for translation, and re-posting in this forum, but he seems to have disappeared.

I'd be interested in the political situation in Brazil, in particular the impact of the truckers strike, maybe you could post something in the Ivory Tower to avoid it sinking into the swamp.

Not an easy task. I hope that helps your project.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4424796.msg39470325#msg39470325

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