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September 21, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
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1.Life exists in the solar system

Venus is the second-closest planet in the Solar System. But even if it's just number two, the temperature on this planet is still the biggest, surpassing the planet closest to the Sun, Mercury. The reason is that Venus has a dense atmosphere, and the gas has a "role" to keep the heat, making the planet like a furnace. The average temperature is up to 482 degrees Celsius.The atmospheric pressure was about 90 times that of Earth, enough to crush armored vehicles.In addition, the atmosphere of Venus almost contains only CO2 and SO2 - forming strong acidic clouds.

2.Venus a special planet

Yet, according to a NASA study, the same terrible cloud may be containing extraterrestrial life. Specifically, experts believe the cloud is rich in sulfur dioxide at Venus can live life in the form of bacteria.They use probes and collect microscopic spots on the surface of the planet. That could be signs that bacteria exist and absorb light, just like in Earth.The mysterious dark patches are like a kind of algae, similar to algae exploding on the lake.
It is known that Venus's atmosphere contains concentrated sulfuric acid, which can reflect 75% of the light emitted.This makes the surface of the planet dim, not visible.So, the existence of dark spots shows that there is something that exists in that terrible atmosphere.

3.The study was published in the journal Astrobiology

Science has determined that Venus used to have the perfect environment to nurture life.But that's about two billion years ago. At the present time, the existence of life here is still astonishing to them. We are hopeful that in the near future, humans will have access to alien life.
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September 21, 2018, 01:10:26 PM
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Do you have any links for those things that you have mentioned to back it up?
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September 21, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
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A very interesting topic but, for all we know extraterrestrial life could be anywhere, so how much does this news actually mean?
Very likely, or "it's not impossible"?
even if we only know life formed our way it could definitely have evolved differently somewheeere in the vast universe.
or is this just another topic to get more funding again?  Roll Eyes

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September 21, 2018, 10:47:12 PM
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1.Life exists in the solar system

Venus is the second-closest planet in the Solar System. But even if it's just number two, the temperature on this planet is still the biggest, surpassing the planet closest to the Sun, Mercury. The reason is that Venus has a dense atmosphere, and the gas has a "role" to keep the heat, making the planet like a furnace. The average temperature is up to 482 degrees Celsius.The atmospheric pressure was about 90 times that of Earth, enough to crush armored vehicles.In addition, the atmosphere of Venus almost contains only CO2 and SO2 - forming strong acidic clouds.

2.Venus a special planet

Yet, according to a NASA study, the same terrible cloud may be containing extraterrestrial life. Specifically, experts believe the cloud is rich in sulfur dioxide at Venus can live life in the form of bacteria.They use probes and collect microscopic spots on the surface of the planet. That could be signs that bacteria exist and absorb light, just like in Earth.The mysterious dark patches are like a kind of algae, similar to algae exploding on the lake.
It is known that Venus's atmosphere contains concentrated sulfuric acid, which can reflect 75% of the light emitted.This makes the surface of the planet dim, not visible.So, the existence of dark spots shows that there is something that exists in that terrible atmosphere.

3.The study was published in the journal Astrobiology

Science has determined that Venus used to have the perfect environment to nurture life.But that's about two billion years ago. At the present time, the existence of life here is still astonishing to them. We are hopeful that in the near future, humans will have access to alien life.


Reflection of light occurs way up in the Venus atmosphere. The surface is 90x the pressure of Earth and very hot. Basic physics shows that pressure is related to temperature for a gas.

There are no bacteria, no life is possible on Venus.

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1.Life exists in the solar system

Venus is the second-closest planet in the Solar System. But even if it's just number two, the temperature on this planet is still the biggest, surpassing the planet closest to the Sun, Mercury. The reason is that Venus has a dense atmosphere, and the gas has a "role" to keep the heat, making the planet like a furnace. The average temperature is up to 482 degrees Celsius.The atmospheric pressure was about 90 times that of Earth, enough to crush armored vehicles.In addition, the atmosphere of Venus almost contains only CO2 and SO2 - forming strong acidic clouds.

2.Venus a special planet

Yet, according to a NASA study, the same terrible cloud may be containing extraterrestrial life. Specifically, experts believe the cloud is rich in sulfur dioxide at Venus can live life in the form of bacteria.They use probes and collect microscopic spots on the surface of the planet. That could be signs that bacteria exist and absorb light, just like in Earth.The mysterious dark patches are like a kind of algae, similar to algae exploding on the lake.
It is known that Venus's atmosphere contains concentrated sulfuric acid, which can reflect 75% of the light emitted.This makes the surface of the planet dim, not visible.So, the existence of dark spots shows that there is something that exists in that terrible atmosphere.

3.The study was published in the journal Astrobiology

Science has determined that Venus used to have the perfect environment to nurture life.But that's about two billion years ago. At the present time, the existence of life here is still astonishing to them. We are hopeful that in the near future, humans will have access to alien life.


Reflection of light occurs way up in the Venus atmosphere. The surface is 90x the pressure of Earth and very hot. Basic physics shows that pressure is related to temperature for a gas.

There are no bacteria, no life is possible on Venus.


Your mind only thinks of earth types of life        so that's as far as you go..

Basic physics< Another reason why YOU and I know nothing much about the UNIVERSE   but i know more than you about what's out there Wink..
WHY you ask?   well lets say NASA and crew get up every morning at 7 am to 7.30 am for their days work Wink..

And what gets me mad is russia and usa japan  get on so well up there  but not so well on earth Cry Cry..
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September 23, 2018, 12:04:21 AM
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https://www.tsijournals.com/abstract/evidence-of-massive-thermonuclear-explosions-on-mars-in-the-past-the-cydonian-hypothesis-and-fermis-paradox-new-data-2731.html


Evidence of massive thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi’s Paradox: new data
Author(s): John E.Brandenburg


The Fermi Paradox is the unexpected silence of the cosmos under the Assumption of Mediocrity, in a cosmos known to have abundant planets and life precursor chemicals. On Mars, the nearest Earthlike planet in the cosmos, the concentration of 129Xe in the Martian atmosphere, the evidence from 80Kr abundance of intense 1014/cm2 flux over the Northern young part of Mars, and the detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, can be explained as due to two large thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past. Based on the pattern of thorium and radioactive potassium gamma radiation, the explosions were centered in the Northern plains in Mare Acidalium at approximately 50N, 30W,near Cydonia Mensa and in Utopia Planum at approximately 50N 120W near Galaxias Chaos, both locations of possible archeological artifacts. The xenon isotope mass spectrum of the Mars atmosphere matches that from open air nuclear testing on Earth and is characteristic of fast neutron fission rather than that produced by a moderated nuclear reactor. The high abundance of 40Ar cannot be explained by mass fractionation during atmospheric loss, and must be the result of neutron capture on 39K, also requiring an intense neutron flux on the Mars surface as is the high abundance of 17N and deuterium. Modeling the 129Xe component in the Mars atmosphere as due to fast neutron fission and the 80Kr as due to delayed neutrons from a planetwide debris layer, and assuming an explosive disassembly of uranium-thorium casing into a planet wide debris layer with 10% residue, all three estimates arrive at approximately 10 25 J, or a yield of 10 10 Megatons. This is similar to the Chicxulub event on Earth and would be large enough to create a global catastrophe and change Mars global climate. The absence of craters at the site suggests centers of the explosions where above the ground. The explosions appear due to very large fusion-fission devices of similar design as seen on Earth, and the Acidalia device, the largest, being approximately 80meter radius. The explosions appear correlated with two sites of possible archeology, sites which formed the basis for the Cydonian Hypothesis. The Cydonian Hypothesis is therefore reconsidered in the light of new imaging and geochemical data. A model of Earthlike eroded archeology is adopted for comparison with Mars artifacts using the pyramids at Giza and the Sphinx and Olmec heads as analogs under the Principle of Mediocrity with attention to details. The new images of the Face at Cydonia Mensa confirm eyes, nose, mouth, helmet structure with additional detail of nostrils and helmet ornaments being clearly seen in new images with details at approximately 1/10 scale of the face. New imagery confirms the pyramid structure seen in Viking images of the The D&M pyramid and new high resolution images show evidence of collapsed brickwork. New images of a face found at Galaxias Chaos (the Utopia site) confirms facial structure with eyes, nose, mouth and helmet. High resolution imagery shows symmetric brickwork around the nose region. The civilization appears to have been primitive and indigenous to Mars. Taken together, the evidence suggests that Mars was the locale of a planetary nuclear massacre. The answer to FermiÂ’s Paradox may thus lie on Mars. It is recommended that a mission for human occupation of Mars be immediately initiated to maximize knowledge of what transpired there.





You can download the whole pdf and read it for yourself.

There's also this little remote viewing session of Mars done by the CIA.

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001900760001-9.pdf


MARS is the one you want to be looking at, not Venus.....
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September 23, 2018, 12:47:18 AM
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https://www.tsijournals.com/abstract/evidence-of-massive-thermonuclear-explosions-on-mars-in-the-past-the-cydonian-hypothesis-and-fermis-paradox-new-data-2731.html


Evidence of massive thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi’s Paradox: new data
Author(s): John E.Brandenburg


The Fermi Paradox is the unexpected silence of the cosmos under the Assumption of Mediocrity, in a cosmos known to have abundant planets and life precursor chemicals. On Mars, the nearest Earthlike planet in the cosmos, the concentration of 129Xe in the Martian atmosphere, the evidence from 80Kr abundance of intense 1014/cm2 flux over the Northern young part of Mars, and the detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, can be explained as due to two large thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past. ......

This is total garbage by a scientist who is a crackpot.

There is nothing remarkable about past nuclear fission on planets, this has certainly occurred on Earth and likely on the Moon. Natural uranium deposits undergo natural fission.

Here is a Wikipedia reference on this rather interesting phenomena.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
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https://www.tsijournals.com/abstract/evidence-of-massive-thermonuclear-explosions-on-mars-in-the-past-the-cydonian-hypothesis-and-fermis-paradox-new-data-2731.html


Evidence of massive thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi’s Paradox: new data
Author(s): John E.Brandenburg


The Fermi Paradox is the unexpected silence of the cosmos under the Assumption of Mediocrity, in a cosmos known to have abundant planets and life precursor chemicals. On Mars, the nearest Earthlike planet in the cosmos, the concentration of 129Xe in the Martian atmosphere, the evidence from 80Kr abundance of intense 1014/cm2 flux over the Northern young part of Mars, and the detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, can be explained as due to two large thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past. ......

This is total garbage by a scientist who is a crackpot.

There is nothing remarkable about past nuclear fission on planets, this has certainly occurred on Earth and likely on the Moon. Natural uranium deposits undergo natural fission.

Here is a Wikipedia reference on this rather interesting phenomena.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor


fair enuff.

But what about the supposed "artefacts" on Mars?

and the CIA remote viewing findings?

The Phobos 2 Incident?

Or the supposed monolith on Phobos?

I need to get a new tinfoil hat.....

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https://www.tsijournals.com/abstract/evidence-of-massive-thermonuclear-explosions-on-mars-in-the-past-the-cydonian-hypothesis-and-fermis-paradox-new-data-2731.html


Evidence of massive thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi’s Paradox: new data
Author(s): John E.Brandenburg


The Fermi Paradox is the unexpected silence of the cosmos under the Assumption of Mediocrity, in a cosmos known to have abundant planets and life precursor chemicals. On Mars, the nearest Earthlike planet in the cosmos, the concentration of 129Xe in the Martian atmosphere, the evidence from 80Kr abundance of intense 1014/cm2 flux over the Northern young part of Mars, and the detected pattern of excess abundance of Uranium and Thorium on Mars surface, relative to Mars meteorites, can be explained as due to two large thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past. ......

This is total garbage by a scientist who is a crackpot.

There is nothing remarkable about past nuclear fission on planets, this has certainly occurred on Earth and likely on the Moon. Natural uranium deposits undergo natural fission.

Here is a Wikipedia reference on this rather interesting phenomena.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor


fair enuff.

But what about the supposed "artefacts" on Mars?

and the CIA remote viewing findings?

The Phobos 2 Incident?

Or the supposed monolith on Phobos?

I need to get a new tinfoil hat.....



Okay.

Mars has been imaged and the surface photography is accurate down to about a half meter. The entire planet has been digitized. All that is available from NASA's websites.

Phobos 2. Spacecraft failed.

Monolith on Phobos. Interesting.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090726210713/http://www.vgl.org/webfiles/mars/phobos2/phobos2.htm

Keep in mind though that gravity on Phobos is very, very low. Things like a big rock sticking straight up is possible naturally in such conditions, where it would not be possible under Earth's gravity.
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Okay.

Mars has been imaged and the surface photography is accurate down to about a half meter. The entire planet has been digitized. All that is available from NASA's websites.

Phobos 2. Spacecraft failed.

Monolith on Phobos. Interesting.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090726210713/http://www.vgl.org/webfiles/mars/phobos2/phobos2.htm

Keep in mind though that gravity on Phobos is very, very low. Things like a big rock sticking straight up is possible naturally in such conditions, where it would not be possible under Earth's gravity.

mmmmhhh

not sure I entirely trust NASA to be honest.

They are known to blur out and distort their images.

Interesting take about the gravity on Phobos being very low.

Plausible I suppose......

Phobos 2:  https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/marte_phobos05.htm

                https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/genesisrevisto/genrevisit12.htm

The last pictures taken prior to ze loss of ze spacecraft are certainly interesting.

I say it was shot down.

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not sure I entirely trust NASA to be honest.
They are known to blur out and distort their images.
...
NASA has imaged the entire planet of Mars. The entire database, not just the composite imagery but the raw data, is available. Start with this university database.

http://www.mars.asu.edu/data/

I suspect you have been thinking of various conspiracy theories based on old data from decades in the past.

If you have doubts, you can look into that data and prove or disprove whatever you have doubts about.


Interesting take about the gravity on Phobos being very low.
Plausible I suppose......
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 Gravity of Phobos is 0.0057 m/s, about 1/1800 of that on Earth. You would weigh a couple ounces on Phobos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobos_(moon)

Dimensions   27 × 22 × 18 km[1]
Mean radius
11.2667 km
(1.76941 mEarths)
Surface area
1548.3 km2[1]
(3.03545 µEarths)
Volume   5783.61 km3
(5.33933 nEarths)
Mass   1.0659×1016 kg[1]
(1.78477 nEarths)
Mean density
1.876 g/cm3[1]
Surface gravity
0.0057 m/s2[1]
(581.4 µ g)
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September 24, 2018, 07:34:12 AM
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Oh I am so excited by the possibility to meet extraterrestrials. It's really cool to think it about!
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What are we looking at here? Some super conspiracy-theory stuff?


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https://www.tsijournals.com/abstract/evidence-of-massive-thermonuclear-explosions-on-mars-in-the-past-the-cydonian-hypothesis-and-fermis-paradox-new-data-2731.html
Evidence of massive thermonuclear explosions on Mars in the past, The Cydonian Hypothesis, and Fermi’s Paradox: new data
Author(s): John E.Brandenburg


This view is  absurdity like using a prehistoric nuclear explosion to prove the prehistoric civilization .
Some scientists have discovered radioactive areas in northern India and concluded that this may be a remnant of a nuclear explosion, and they think this is evidence of prehistoric civilization.1
But if you look at some geographic information, you will find this very ridiculous.


This phenomenon is called Natural nuclear fission reactor.2
The principle is that the natural nuclear reactor formed when uranium-rich mineral deposit became inundated with groundwater that acted as a neutron moderator, and a nuclear chain reaction took place.
If there are prehistoric civilizations or Venus/Mars aliens, from the astronomical, they are so close to us, then we should have found them, or they have found us. I am not denying the existence of aliens(Maybe, but we can't meet each other.), I just don’t think there are aliens in Mars/Venus/Solar.
If anyone sees an alien, please announce your new discovery, this will be the greatest discovery in human history.  Grin

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