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September 21, 2011, 12:22:26 PM
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Sounds like bbit has been in trouble himself, thick as thieves, etc. 

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September 21, 2011, 12:47:40 PM
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Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

He's the main reason I pulled out of MtGOX entirely, well before the MYBTC fiasco (which he lied a great deal about - remember his "talks" and "opening a case" with the FBI? Didn't happen)

It's funny you mention the Baker's. There are people, to this day after being ripped off of everything they own by them, that still insist that Baker was a great guy. Even after losing their homes, their lifes savings, and even having entire families broken apart. I see Bitcoin as much the same. Most people are smart enough to disown and denounce the scammer, but there's still a loud subset of people who will defend the scammer while getting fleeced because "they believe". 
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September 21, 2011, 02:19:24 PM
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Anyone who can still defend Bruce or have anything to do with him after seeing the hard evidence of his mortgage scams (which includes court documents and news reports) are either somehow complicit with Bruce's scams, or are merely delusional die-hard ignorant fools who deserve to lose their money.

I personally won't have any dealings with any company which advertises on Bruce's show or is interviewed on Bruce's show. It is the main reason why I finally pulled out of MtGox.

He's the main reason I pulled out of MtGOX entirely, well before the MYBTC fiasco (which he lied a great deal about - remember his "talks" and "opening a case" with the FBI? Didn't happen)

It's funny you mention the Baker's. There are people, to this day after being ripped off of everything they own by them, that still insist that Baker was a great guy. Even after losing their homes, their lifes savings, and even having entire families broken apart. I see Bitcoin as much the same. Most people are smart enough to disown and denounce the scammer, but there's still a loud subset of people who will defend the scammer while getting fleeced because "they believe".  

To be fair, I wasn't personally hurt by any of BW's claims or scams, and have never had my BTC stolen or scammed, since I try to do my own research on places I do business with (Bruce is at most just an advertisement), so perhaps not being hurt by him means I'm a bit biased.

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September 21, 2011, 04:44:16 PM
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Sounds like bbit has been in trouble himself, thick as thieves, etc. 

and what would that be?
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September 21, 2011, 11:35:25 PM
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Do your own due diligence before entering into ANY sort of obligation, not just financial contracts. Acting in this accord is not only beneficial to us as a Bitcoin community, it is beneficial to yourself as a human being, businessperson, or whatever. Be aware, be constantly vigilant!

This can't be repeated often enough.  "Scam" gets thrown around here almost as often as "troll" but I think that because there's a limited range of Bitcoin services available and people are desperate for more - and want to be in on the ground floor - people overlook the fact that a very high percentage of these new ventures are going to fail.  It takes a lot more than just a good idea for a business to succeed and a lot of good ideas end up going nowhere.  That's a reality in the real world and people starting Bitcoin ventures aren't immune to all the various factors which can cause a business to fail.

Bruce failed to do any due diligence regarding the Swiss Chalet hoax.  He wanted to be the person who brought it off so much that he overlooked some pretty obvious red flags.  He possibly twisted the facts a little bit too (the goon who perpetrated the hoax claims that Bruce phoned him whereas Bruce claims that it was the other way around).  A small detail, but one which I think indicates that Bruce still wants to be seen as a "somebody" within the Bitcoin community - the bigshot people will approach with big ideas.

I think that the "I want to believe" mentality does get in the way of people's commonsense sometimes and that people who ask legitimate questions about new ventures are too often and too easily dismissed as trolls spreading FUD - yet when those ventures fail, those who dismissed those concerns are quick to cry scam.

People need to keep in mind that any Bitcoin venture could fail literally overnight regardless of the intentions of its founders and limit their financial exposure to what they can genuinely afford to lose.

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September 22, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
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I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

  • SomethingAwful administrators once CLAIMED that SPEWS (an anonymous anti spam service) was hacking the SA server. This false accusation rallied SA goons to threaten DDoS (illegal activity) against SPEWS servers.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Spam_Prevention_Early_Warning_System
  • SomethingAwful members William Freund and Andrew Allred were both directly involved in the murders of four innocent people. William Freund committed suicide after seeking advice on SA's gun subforum and shortly after killing two people. Andrew Allred plead guilty to the double homicide of Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschack. He also posted significant details about the murders on his website.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Shooting_deaths

Does this make Something Awful goons ALL gun-toting sociopathic murderers? Sociopaths, maybe. Damn good trolls, certainly. But I don't think all of them are murderers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I think there's a reason they call the website something awful. Wink
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September 22, 2011, 10:36:57 AM
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I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.
I'm sure there must be better dirt out there on SA you could be digging up, you know...

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September 22, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
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I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.
I'm sure there must be better dirt out there on SA you could be digging up, you know...

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September 22, 2011, 01:38:10 PM
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I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.

  • SomethingAwful administrators once CLAIMED that SPEWS (an anonymous anti spam service) was hacking the SA server. This false accusation rallied SA goons to threaten DDoS (illegal activity) against SPEWS servers.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Spam_Prevention_Early_Warning_System
  • SomethingAwful members William Freund and Andrew Allred were both directly involved in the murders of four innocent people. William Freund committed suicide after seeking advice on SA's gun subforum and shortly after killing two people. Andrew Allred plead guilty to the double homicide of Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschack. He also posted significant details about the murders on his website.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Something_Awful#Shooting_deaths

Does this make Something Awful goons ALL gun-toting sociopathic murderers? Sociopaths, maybe. Damn good trolls, certainly. But I don't think all of them are murderers. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

I think there's a reason they call the website something awful. Wink

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September 22, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
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Oh god he looked at the wiki page, we've been found out now.  That's some super internet detective work you did there. 

 

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September 22, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
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I'd like to point out that if SA wants to make assumptions about Bitcoiners by the actions of a few, then Bitcoiners in the same vein can assume (remember though, assuming makes an ass out of you and ming) that SA goons are hypocritical and even prone to committing murder-suicides.


Leave Ming out of this, jerk.

So two guys out of 100,000+ committed murder?  That's a better per-capita crime rate than Sweden, right?

Compare that to 1 major exchange out of 8(?) that completely disappeared with everyone's BTC and dollars.  On a board with 40,000 members, there's callout threads for 4-5 scammers on the first page of the Trade forum alone, not counting Bruce & logansryche threads.  It's apples and oranges.

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September 22, 2011, 03:21:10 PM
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I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

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September 22, 2011, 03:26:25 PM
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Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.
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September 22, 2011, 04:08:04 PM
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Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!"  Grin

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September 22, 2011, 04:51:32 PM
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I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

I had never seen someone so eager to wear Yiffing as a cross until I joined this forum. You sir, are the Jesus of Yiffyness.
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September 22, 2011, 05:02:45 PM
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I'd like to point out that blah bah blah...

Here's an important lesson for you: trolls troll for reactions, nothing more. If you react, and especially if you become defensive and whiny, they get their entertainment and will continue trolling. If you just shrug it off and say, "Yep, that's me," even if it's not true, they won't have power over you, will quickly get bored, and just leave. That is practically the entirety of how groups like SA operate. Trust me as someone with experience in both, being a part of a group that is a major SA troll target, and as someone who is close friends with some SA members.

I had never seen someone so eager to wear Yiffing as a cross until I joined this forum. You sir, are the Jesus of Yiffyness.

Yep, that's me too.

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September 22, 2011, 07:31:21 PM
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Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!"  Grin

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September 22, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
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Rassah I don't think your kind lasts longer than a minute on SomethingAwful, they have a policy against smart ass posts. And zoophilia.

I wouldn't know, as I personally am not on the forums, nor have any interest to be. My ex bf (and still a very close friend) is, and I have seen plenty of SA conversations and activities through/thanks-to him.

Though if SA is anything like /b, I'm very surprised to hear they have a policy against zoophilia. The name of the forum would suggest that the more awful something is, the more likely someone would post it there for others to barf/laugh at.

Also, "yep, that's me!"  Grin

How many times in the average week do you unironically use the world "fursecution"?

Lesson #2 is trolls can still be fun to feed/troll back if you're bored, as long as you never take them seriously or personally. (Though when that happens, the OP topic is usually permanently derailed, and so at this point I would suggest the mods move this heap to Off-Topic)

How is it that you know so much about furries? And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

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September 22, 2011, 08:03:31 PM
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And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

Yes this part is disturbingly true. Richard "Twinkfox" Kyanka has been serving up a steady stream of cat penises to unsuspecting forumgoers for over 10 years now.
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September 22, 2011, 08:16:06 PM
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And is it really true that SA was founded by one and likely indoctrinates its members into that culture by feeding them furry pictures and knowledge without them suspecting?

Yes this part is disturbingly true. Richard "Twinkfox" Kyanka has been serving up a steady stream of cat penises to unsuspecting forumgoers for over 10 years now.


Not only this, but the infamous battle with Uwe Boll was actually a set up to sale videos of Twinkfox Kyanka and Uwe Boll yiffing atop a mound of mangosteens. It was on the DVD edition and the community never quite recovered. Some say you can hear a young Will Freund on the audio track with a breaking heart.
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