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June 07, 2018, 10:04:45 AM
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I was tagged by several DT2 members because they are claiming that Bitconnext is a Ponzi scam and is connected to bitconnect. First of all our platform has nothing to do with bitconnect, but this is not the point of this thread. DT2 member CRYPTODEVIL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980 started to tag bounty campaign participants, that never posted in main thread and never promoted our project on this forum. That people are working hard and participating in many bounty campaigns to get the money for living and this person is crashing their profiles, by tagging them with red trust. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224980 There were and are dozens of real ponzi threads on this forum, that already stole millions of dollars, but their OP's are not even tagged.

Regalcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2093710.0

Ethconnect : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2301946.0

Lendconnect : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2519448.0

Powerloan : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3223704.0

Also there were hundreds of scam bounty campaigns of scam projects. Does that mean that all participants must be tagged ? This way the whole forum must be tagged. I apply to DT1 members and the administrators of this forum to remove this crazy person from the DT2 list. Also we received a extortion letter  from the person named Cryptodevil Bitcointalk. I'm not sure if it was sent by him or just by a scammer, but I'm posting it here. Take a look.  


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Let's see:

- you're running a 20%-per-month "arbitrage" scam
- you lied about having a business registered in Cyprus
- you presented a fake "letter" as proof of extortion
- you're spreading pedophilia accusations against users who neg you

And your excuse is - others do it too?

cryptodevil (or anyone) is not obligated to look into every shitcoining scam on this forum but he's doing a great job when some idiot gets his attention, which you tried really hard to do.
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Your post has nothing to do with the point of this thread. This thread is about Cryptodevil abusing trust rules and tagging bounty campaign participants. He has absolutely no right to do that and I already informed Theymos about this.
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Also we received a extortion letter  from the person named Cryptodevil Bitcointalk. I'm not sure if it was sent by him or just by a scammer
I can confirm that the email address cryptodevil@cyberservices.com is not mine so if you have legitimately received such an offer, as opposed to merely having mocked up the image, hopefully any future targets will search on that address and find this post to confirm that it is a scam.

It would have to be a pretty stupid mark who'd fall for it though without checking that it is a hoax. Mock-up or otherwise.


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June 07, 2018, 01:30:53 PM
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Your post has nothing to do with the point of this thread. This thread is about Cryptodevil abusing trust rules and tagging bounty campaign participants. He has absolutely no right to do that and I already informed Theymos about this.

If you're referring to my post - it has everything to do with your scam and cryptodevil doing what he deems necessary to label it as such. I believe cd also tried to warn your bounty participants of what's coming and you deleted those warnings from your self-moderated thread. Not sure what any of this has to do with theymos but whatever floats your boat.

BTW scam accusation this is not. Move the thread or present actual facts of cryptodevil (or anyone) scamming you.
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cd also tried to warn your bounty participants

Warning them by giving a red trust ? I repeat again, he has no rights to do that.

I can confirm that the email address cryptodevil@cyberservices.com is not mine

You can not prove that and extortion by DT2 members is nothing new on this forum. Lauda and  minifrij were already involved in extortion attempt and tagged by OgNasty, who is the DT1 member. I wish he will do the same with cryptodevil. Here is the proof of my words

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138940

You're spreading pedophilia accusations against users who neg you

Accusations ? Another DT2 member VOD was exposed as a pedophile long time ago and here is the proof of that. (You can not accuse me for setting that up, because that report was made years ago)

https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

Here is his abandoned twitter profile. https://twitter.com/lawrence_tech  (Really cute guy....)

YEA.. THIS IS THE SAD REALITY ABOUT DT2 MEMBERS (WHO THEY REALLY ARE)
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I can confirm that the email address cryptodevil@cyberservices.com is not mine

You can not prove that

You're the one making the extortion claim. You're gonna need to prove it.

You're spreading pedophilia accusations against users who neg you

Accusations? Another DT2 member...


You're not very good at this deflection thing. You posted a bunch of retaliatory ratings without any proof. It doesn't make your scheme any less of a scam.

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Accusations ? [...]

YEA.. THIS IS THE SAD REALITY ABOUT DT2 MEMBERS (WHO THEY REALLY ARE)
Ah, yes... all DT2 members are pedophiles without question. Now you've really caught us: to be on DefaultTrust means that you must be a pedophile as a prerequisite.

You can't extend old accusations as proof for new ones. That doesn't make sense.

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June 07, 2018, 04:10:20 PM
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If these bounty participants were warned, and they didn't stop participating in the bounty, that's on them.  Cryptodevil sent me a warning once about a campaign I was in--for the life of me I can't remember the name of it or even who was managing it--but I ended up leaving it after a week because 1) I didn't want to advertise a scam, and 2) I didn't want to get tagged by a DT member.  It turned out that he called scam on the project too soon, and if I'm not mistaken it wasn't a scam at all.  Maybe Cryptodevil remembers, but I doubt it.

Either way, he's a cocky cocksucker but he's looking out for the community, even if he gets it wrong sometimes.  In this case here, he obviously hasn't gotten it wrong.  OP got a bunch of other negs from DT that he should be worried about as well. 

Might want to learn how to spell words like "extorting" correctly, especially when they're in the title of a thread, but maybe I'm just being picky.

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June 07, 2018, 06:27:46 PM
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OP deleted my warnings too. I posted it two times:

https://i.imgur.com/CkkKQzK.jpg


This is a clear abuse of self-moderation, so I've opened a suggestion to avoid such misleading behaviour promoting scams:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4434246.0

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You're the one making the extortion claim. You're gonna need to prove it.

I already posted the copy of the letter, that was received on our email and added that I'm not sure if it was sent by him or just by a scammer But looking into the history of DT2 members behavior on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138940 it is more likely that cryptodevil sent that letter.


You posted a bunch of retaliatory ratings without any proof. It doesn't make your scheme any less of a scam.


As I mentioned before, this topic is not about bitconnext and we are not discussing here if that project is a scam or not. We are discussing here the behavior of cryptodevil, who tagged bounty participants profiles without any reasons and ruined them. Also we are discussing here some of DT2 members that were involved it extortion and pedophilia cases.

All DT2 members are pedophiles without question.

I never said that. I just provided a link to website, where VOD was exposed as a pedophile and that accusation was confirmed by his former co-workers.
https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

If these bounty participants were warned

They were never warned, because I deleted all messages from that crazy internet cop immediately after posting.

he's a cocky cocksucker

That's true !

I do not care about the opinion of yours regarding our project. I care about people that signed up for a bounty campaign without any bad intentions and get red tagged by crazy dude, who thinks he is a internet robin hood. As I mentioned above there were and are dozens of real ponzi projects on this forum (you can see the links in my first post) Non of OP's of that projects were tagged.  Cryptodevil must remove red tags from bounty participants because they did not know anything about the project and they do not care if the project is a scam or not.
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I've opened a suggestion to avoid such misleading behaviour promoting scams:

As I mentioned before, nobody cares about your opinion fucking newbie. I already exposed your personality, so people can see, who you really are.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4413982.msg39430162#msg39430162
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You're the one making the extortion claim. You're gonna need to prove it.

I already posted the copy of the letter, that was received on our email and added that I'm not sure if it was sent by him or just by a scammer But looking into the history of DT2 members behavior on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138940 it is more likely that cryptodevil sent that letter.

Does not follow.


You posted a bunch of retaliatory ratings without any proof. It doesn't make your scheme any less of a scam.


As I mentioned before, this topic is not about bitconnext and we are not discussing here if that project is a scam or not. We are discussing here the behavior of cryptodevil, who tagged bounty participants profiles without any reasons and ruined them. Also we are discussing here some of DT2 members that were involved it extortion and pedophilia cases.

Luckily this is not a self-moderated thread so we can and need to bring up the fact that cryptodevil's actions are directed against your scam.

All DT2 members are pedophiles without question.

I never said that. I just provided a link to website, where VOD was exposed as a pedophile and that accusation was confirmed by his former co-workers.
https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255

You posted "pedophile" comments on multiple users without any proof whatsoever.

If these bounty participants were warned

They were never warned, because I deleted all messages from that crazy internet cop immediately after posting.

Good. There was a warning.

he's a cocky cocksucker

That's true !

I do not care about the opinion of yours regarding our project. I care about people that signed up for a bounty campaign without any bad intentions and get red tagged by crazy dude, who thinks he is a internet robin hood. As I mentioned above there were and are dozens of real ponzi projects on this forum (you can see the links in my first post) Non of OP's of that projects were tagged.  Cryptodevil must remove red tags from bounty participants because they did not know anything about the project and they do not care if the project is a scam or not.

You shouldn't have deleted the warnings, then the bounty participants would have known what they were getting into.

Your Stalinist approach isn't working comrade.
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Dude, I do not care any more about your opinion, because you are a fucking idiot. I provided undeniable proofs that DT2 members of this forum were involved in EXTORTION cases and one of them is a well known PEDOPHILE. Or maybe all of you are pedos, because you are defending him.  Now any forum member can see that. End of the story. Now you can go and suck the the dick of pedophile VOD or do whatever you like comrade... I really hope that the forum members that have a small kids, will report all of you to police. https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255  Here is the link if anyone would like to make a report anonymously  https://www.facebook.com/Anonymous-Pedophile-Report-Page-147739515420707/
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Dude, I do not care any more about your opinion, because you are a fucking idiot. I provided undeniable proofs

You linked to some ramblings of a known escrow scammer, and a website known for extortionate (some irony here) accusations. That's not "proofs" of anything, nor does it make your scam coin any less of a scam. Neither Lauda nor minifrij are even involved here.

Bitconnext is a scam. You've been exposed. You're wasting your time here.
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That's not "proofs" of anything

Dude, if I had 100 % proof that VOD is a pedophile, I would sent him to jail immediately. That's why he was just kicked out from his work and not jailed. He is a suspected pedophile, but this is more than enough for any normal person to stay away from him. But unfortunately you do not fit into the category of normal people. Same story is with cryptodevil. He is a suspected scammer and extortionist.

Bitconnext is a scam. You've been exposed

Once again, we are not discussing bitconnext here.

You're wasting your time here

No, I can still afford 15 minutes of my time daily for exposing pedophiles and extortionists on this forum and keep this thread in the top of "Scam Accusations" 
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I provided undeniable proofs

if I had 100 % proof

Well, at least you're admitting you're full of mierda.

Once again, we are not discussing bitconnext here.

Oh but we are. Your asinine scheme is a scam and its untimely demise caused your meltdown. So yeah, let's keep the bitconnext scam

in the top of "Scam Accusations" 
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exposing pedophiles
Name them and show your proof.

and extortionists
Name them and show your proof.
Your blanket statements have no merit. Provide something of substance if you want to worry about character evidence, which still has nothing to do with your ICO.

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Name them and show your proof.

Name: VOD (Martin Lawrence) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747

Proof : https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255 https://twitter.com/lawrence_tech

Name : Cryptodevil https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980

Proof : http://s1.radikale.ru/uploads/2018/6/6/f6be5a6bc96ba461012dfacf644eabfb-full.png

But as I mentioned above they are just suspects accused person is presumed innocent until proved guilty by a court.

The point is that any reputable lawyer will refuse to defend a pedophile. Any normal person will stay away from a suspected pedophile.  But as I mentioned above, you guys do not fit into the category of normal people. That's why people will think that either you are the pedophiles too, or just immoral dregs of society

I call all forum members that have a small kids to report all of you to police or to this anonymous page https://www.facebook.com/Anonymous-Pedophile-Report-Page-147739515420707/ I already did that and now the links to the profiles of VOD; SUCHMOON and ACTMYNAME are already reported to that page.
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The proof for Vod is by some website to which the reports could easily have been faked.

This is not proof.

But as I mentioned above they are just suspects accused person is presumed innocent until proved guilty by a court.
So then you're not exposing pedophiles. You're accusing people of being pedophiles.

But as I mentioned above, you guys do not fit into the category of normal people.
What?

That's why people will think that either you are the pedophiles too, or just immoral dregs of society
Wait, what?!

I call all forum members that have a small kids to report all of you to police or to this anonymous page https://www.facebook.com/Anonymous-Pedophile-Report-Page-147739515420707/ I already did that and now the links to the profiles of VOD; SUCHMOON and ACTMYNAME are already reported to that page.
You're basically telling people to lie about us, saying that we're pedophiles.

That's not very honest now, is it? And even if they take your word seriously, because "suchmoon and actmyname on this bitcoin forum are pedophiles! I have no evidence but they are!" is not very believable, you would be taking time away from people who are actually going after real pedophiles.

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I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet: Bitconnext is a scam and the dumbass who runs said scam - yokxashor, a Russian shitposter who graduated to a scammer within ~2 months - is having a meltdown here after the scam has been exposed.

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What?

I said that you and suchmoon are not normal people because you are defending a suspected pedophile here (Read my previous posts)


Wait, what?

I said that people, who will read this topic, will think that either you are the pedophiles too, or just immoral dregs of society If you don't understand what is the meaning of dregs of society here is the explanation "A group of people in society who you consider to be immoral and of no value" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dregs-of-society-humanity


Yokxashor, a Russian shitposter

Are you a racist ? Where the fuck are you from ?

Dear forum members. I know that a lot of you have a small kids. Please read my previous posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432189.msg39620254#msg39620254 and report following profiles to police or to this anonymous page https://www.facebook.com/Anonymous-Pedophile-Report-Page-147739515420707/ I already did that and now the links to the profiles of VOD; SUCHMOON and ACTMYNAME are already reported to that page.

VOD (Martin Lawrence) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747

actmyname https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017

suchmoon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771

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What?

I said that you and suchmoon are not normal people because you are defending a suspected pedophile here (Read my previous posts)

That's not what happened though. So what you said is a lie. Not cool.

Wait, what?

I said that people, who will read this topic, will think that either you are the pedophiles too, or just immoral dregs of society If you don't understand what is the meaning of dregs of society here is the explanation "A group of people in society who you consider to be immoral and of no value" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/dregs-of-society-humanity

No, most likely normal people who read this thread will think that you have an unhealthy obsession with pedophilia.

Yokxashor, a Russian shitposter

Are you a racist ? Where the fuck are you from?

Russia is not a race nor do I have anything against it. The fact is you made ~25 shitposts in Russian and then went on to start your Bitconnext scam.

I thought you know exactly who I am and where I'm from, what with all the accusations and reports to the police. Lied again?
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I said that you and suchmoon are not normal people because you are defending a suspected pedophile here (Read my previous posts)
I have not defended anyone.

I said that people, who will read this topic, will think that either you are the pedophiles too, or just immoral dregs of society
Simply because you accuse us of being pedophiles? Great. So now I can reverse the situation and say that you are a pedophile and despite the lack of evidence of any kind, I am stalwart in my conviction. I will now report you to the police and that stupid facebook page.

and report following profiles to police or to this anonymous page
Stop lying and preventing people from carrying out justice. Giving false reports means giving more time for real pedophiles to commit crimes.

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My dear Cryptodevil, actmyname and suchmoon. Our ICO is cancelled and now I can fully concentrate on this thread. Believe me, you will enjoy my company here. I promise you unforgettable entertainment. You will be the stars of scam accusation threads. I'm sure you will find time to join me here, because as anyone can see, you are active on this forum 24/7. This means that either you are a old and ugly women that are sitting at home all day long, or just fat and stinky dudes with no friends and no families. Later today we will discuss your connection with suspected pedophile Martin Lawrence aka VOD. Tomorrow we will have a show called actmyname and his scam trading bot TheFoxBot
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Cmon guys, stop feeding this scammer troll.
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Cmon guys, stop feeding this scammer troll.

Let me introduce you marlboroza a former member of Croatian Defence Council Hrvatsko vijeće obrane organization that was involved in war crimes during the war in Yugoslavia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Defence_Council He loves his kid and is buying gifts for him https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2047815.msg20404811#msg20404811 Does your kid know that one of your friends is a suspected pedophile and that other friends of yours are supporting him ? I will try to let him know about that.
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Let me introduce you marlboroza a former member of Croatian Defence Council Hrvatsko vijeće obrane organization that was involved in war crimes during the war in Yugoslavia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Defence_Council
Tell us more about war in Bosnia.

That is correct.

Does your kid know that one of your friends is a suspected pedophile and that other friends of yours are supporting him ? I will try to let him know about that.
Make sure to tell them a war story too.
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Make sure to tell them a war story too.

"Them" ?  So you got more kids ? Congratulations. What you want me to tell them? That their daddy was involved in countless massacres and mass rapes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War
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I was tagged by several DT2 members because they are claiming that Bitconnext is a Ponzi scam and is connected to bitconnect. First of all our platform has nothing to do with bitconnect, but this is not the point of this thread. DT2 member CRYPTODEVIL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980 started to tag bounty campaign participants, that never posted in main thread and never promoted our project on this forum. That people are working hard and participating in many bounty campaigns to get the money for living and this person is crashing their profiles, by tagging them with red trust. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=224980 There were and are dozens of real ponzi threads on this forum, that already stole millions of dollars, but their OP's are not even tagged.

Regalcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2093710.0

Ethconnect : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2301946.0

Lendconnect : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2519448.0

Powerloan : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3223704.0

Also there were hundreds of scam bounty campaigns of scam projects. Does that mean that all participants must be tagged ? This way the whole forum must be tagged. I apply to DT1 members and the administrators of this forum to remove this crazy person from the DT2 list. Also we received a extortion letter  from the person named Cryptodevil Bitcointalk. I'm not sure if it was sent by him or just by a scammer, but I'm posting it here. Take a look.  





Pure bull.

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Pure bull.

Let me introduce xtraelv The former drug dealer on Silk Road black market https://blockonomi.com/history-of-silk-road/
who is now the OP of a  topic that is designed for promoting free speech for drug traders on this forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.msg39642496#msg39642496
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Pure bull.

Let me introduce xtraelv The former drug dealer on Silk Road black market https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace) who is now the OP of a  topic that is designed for promoting free speech for drug traders on this forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.msg39642496#msg39642496


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Initially I wasn't gonna bother tagging you but obviously you are trying for a record on the negative trust system.

I've never even used illegal drugs, sold them or visited silk road. I didn't even own crypto when silk road existed. Just keep telling lies and digging your hole deeper. Any doubt that you are a SCAMMER has been removed.

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"Them" ?  So you got more kids ?
I have never said gender or number. And I thought my English is limited.  Roll Eyes

Tell us more about war in Bosnia.
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I've never even used illegal drugs, sold them or visited silk road. I didn't even own crypto when silk road existed

Really ? Then for the fuck for did you started that topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.msg39642496#msg39642496 about Silk Road where you are talking about free speech

While I would not partake in the drug culture myself. I think it is a brave stance not to censor too much.
There is also a certain amount of "free speech" involved

Dude.. it is not a good idea to open the topics like that, because the dudes that were running Silk Road were sentenced to life imprisonment . Besides that, Free Speech has nothing to do with fucking market place where dudes like you are selling drugs, weapons and child porn.

https://blockonomi.com/history-of-silk-road/

Initially I wasn't gonna bother tagging you but obviously you

Tagging me ? You are not even a DT2 member and your fucking tag will appear in untrusted feedback.   Besides I don't give a shit about tagging. BTW read my tag about you.
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Dude.. it is not a good idea to open the topics like that, because the dudes that were running Silk Road were sentenced to life imprisonment . Besides that, Free Speech has nothing to do with fucking market place where dudes like you are selling drugs, weapons and child porn.

You realize once you are an adult your brain doesn't grow anymore. I've written about Bitcointalk history, Mt.Gox, Hacks and Scams.  It doesn't implicate me in any of it.

John Grisham writes about crime. It doesn't make him a criminal or implicated in crime in any way.

Free speech is about not censoring. The hardest part about not censoring is not censoring the opinions you disagree with. Obviously you don't actually read any posts that you link to - because the statement was clearly talking about Bitcointalk not censoring - not silk road.

Free speech doesn't mean free of consequences. If you say something - especially lies - there can be consequences.

Tagging me ? You are not even a DT2 member and your fucking tag will appear in untrusted feedback.   Besides I don't give a shit about tagging. BTW read my tag about you.

Your knowledge of the DT system makes it quite likely that this isn't the only bitcointalk account that you use.

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A wise man (or woman) once said:

Cmon guys, stop feeding this scammer troll.

This Bitconnext scamtroll is particularly feisty, might bite your hand off. Maybe it's their mating season or something.
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I've read the whitepaper and in a lot of Western countries this would be considered an "unregistered security" and therefore illegal.

Perhaps you can tell us the identities of the organizers and the reason for the logo and marketing material similarities.

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I've read the whitepaper and in a lot of Western countries this would be considered an "unregistered security" and therefore illegal.

Let me give you a small free lesson clueless noob who is trying to me smart. There are no regulations for ICO's in general. China just restricted ICO's because the central bank of China declared ICO's as a danger for the countries economy. SEC in US still does not have clear statement about that.  Let’s look at bitcoin. If you own bitcoin, you are not entitled to any particular debt or deposits. There is no repayment schedule, and there is no issuer from which the debt should eventually come from. Therefore it’s safe to conclude that bitcoin is not a debt security. Likewise, as bitcoin is not a company, a bitcoin does not represent a share of ownership in anything. Bitcoin is valued simply because bitcoin itself has value. For this reason, bitcoin is generally not considered a security, but instead is considered an asset more in line with gold or diamonds. It’s something that has value in and of itself and is not tied to any company or issuing body. Things get even more complicated when we consider the various cryptocurrencies and ERC-20 tokens offered in ICO’s. This is because practically all ICO’s are offered by an individual or a company. Even if it’s not offered by a registered company, it’s still being offered by an individual or group of individuals that will be the beneficiary of the proceeds from the sale. Are ICO’s illegal? At this point not. In order for an ICO to be illegal in the United States, it would need to be de facto declared as a security first. Once that is done, attempting to sell securities without following SEC procedures could be viewed as an illegal act. However ICO's are not declared as a security jet. Same story is in EU. The EU central bank is talking about implementing some rules for ICO's but nothing was done yet. Also if you want to avoid any problems just mention in your ICO, that your tokens will be used for membership on your platform and that's it. So, I suggest you to educate yourself a little bit before posting a bullshit statements here.

Perhaps you can tell us the identities of the organizers and the reason for the logo and marketing material similarities.

That post is completely off topic. Open your eyes and read the header of the topic. If you are thinking that bitconnext is a scam there is a special thread for that. Please post there. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4413982.0 We are discussing here some DT2 members the suspected scammer and extortionist Cryptodevil, suspected pedophile VOD and their active friends and lawyers suchmoon and actmyname

Name : Cryptodevil https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980

Proof : http://s1.radikale.ru/uploads/2018/6/6/f6be5a6bc96ba461012dfacf644eabfb-full.png

Name: VOD (Martin Lawrence) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747

Proof : https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/martin-lawrence/select-stateprovince/martin-lawrence-vodmlawrence-pedo-bitcoin-st-albert-edmonton-st-albert-alberta-1158255 https://twitter.com/lawrence_tech

Name: actmyname https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=465017

Name: suchmoon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771

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Let’s look at bitcoin. If you own bitcoin, you are not entitled to any particular debt or deposits. There is no repayment schedule, and there is no issuer from which the debt should eventually come from. Therefore it’s safe to conclude that bitcoin is not a debt security. Likewise, as bitcoin is not a company, a bitcoin does not represent a share of ownership in anything. Bitcoin is valued simply because bitcoin itself has value. For this reason, bitcoin is generally not considered a security, but instead is considered an asset more in line with gold or diamonds. It’s something that has value in and of itself and is not tied to any company or issuing body. Things get even more complicated when we consider the various cryptocurrencies and ERC-20 tokens offered in ICO’s. This is because practically all ICO’s are offered by an individual or a company. Even if it’s not offered by a registered company, it’s still being offered by an individual or group of individuals that will be the beneficiary of the proceeds from the sale. Are ICO’s illegal? At this point not. In order for an ICO to be illegal in the United States, it would need to be de facto declared as a security first. Once that is done, attempting to sell securities without following SEC procedures could be viewed as an illegal act. However ICO's are not declared as a security jet.

Blatant plagiarism:

https://blockonomi.com/cryptocurrencies-securities/
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This Bitconnext scamtroll is particularly feisty, might bite your hand off. Maybe it's their mating season or something.
It has to be, they are everywhere!
Maybe to introduce them to....that other troll?
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This Bitconnext scamtroll is particularly feisty, might bite your hand off. Maybe it's their mating season or something.
It has to be, they are everywhere!
Maybe to introduce them to....that other troll?

Great idea... done. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3779450.msg39833128#msg39833128
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Let me give you a small free lesson clueless noob who is trying to me smart. There are no regulations for ICO's in general. China just restricted ICO's because the central bank of China declared ICO's as a danger for the countries economy. SEC in US still does not have clear statement about that.  Let’s look at bitcoin. If you own bitcoin, you are not entitled to any particular debt or deposits. There is no repayment schedule, and there is no issuer from which the debt should eventually come from. Therefore it’s safe to conclude that bitcoin is not a debt security. Likewise, as bitcoin is not a company, a bitcoin does not represent a share of ownership in anything. Bitcoin is valued simply because bitcoin itself has value. For this reason, bitcoin is generally not considered a security, but instead is considered an asset more in line with gold or diamonds. It’s something that has value in and of itself and is not tied to any company or issuing body. Things get even more complicated when we consider the various cryptocurrencies and ERC-20 tokens offered in ICO’s. This is because practically all ICO’s are offered by an individual or a company. Even if it’s not offered by a registered company, it’s still being offered by an individual or group of individuals that will be the beneficiary of the proceeds from the sale. Are ICO’s illegal? At this point not. In order for an ICO to be illegal in the United States, it would need to be de facto declared as a security first. Once that is done, attempting to sell securities without following SEC procedures could be viewed as an illegal act. However ICO's are not declared as a security jet. Same story is in EU. The EU central bank is talking about implementing some rules for ICO's but nothing was done yet. Also if you want to avoid any problems just mention in your ICO, that your tokens will be used for membership on your platform and that's it. So, I suggest you to educate yourself a little bit before posting a bullshit statements here.

Rather than looking at a poorly written article written by a journalist - lets look at what the law really says:

Howey Test (USA)
It is an investment of money ☑
There is an expectation of profits from the investment ☑
The investment of money is in a common enterprise ☑
Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party ☑

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/328/293.html
https://apps.americanbar.org/buslaw/newsletter/0014/materials/investmentch2.pdf

Now your whitepaper:



UK:



AU:


https://asic.gov.au/regulatory-resources/digital-transformation/initial-coin-offerings-and-crypto-currency/#when

HK:
http://www.sfc.hk/web/EN/regulatory-functions/intermediaries/licensing/do-you-need-a-licence-or-registration.html#1

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Make sure you have plenty. This feisty bitconnext rooster is planning on educating all of us.

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I seem to have triggered the shithead so the thread has been locked... I was hoping for months of entertainment.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4378430.msg39337492#msg39337492

Finally we have this entertainment now!  Cheesy

Maybe the scammer will be tagged by other members so he has to think about some more lies for revenge-trust...

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We are discussing here some DT2 members the suspected scammer and extortionist Cryptodevil

Name : Cryptodevil https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980

Proof : http://s1.radikale.ru/uploads/2018/6/6/f6be5a6bc96ba461012dfacf644eabfb-full.png
NOTE: Cross posted from the other thread...




Please stop posting and/or linking to the same screenshot of an email that quite clearly comes from a well known "spam email" domain (cyberservices.com) and claiming that is is "undeniable proof" that cryptodevil tried to extort money from you.

Emails are ridiculously easy to "spoof"... In addition, you have no proof that cryptodevil actually sent that email or owns that email address... just because someone put cryptodevil's name on it... doesn't mean that it is him.

If you have some actual evidence, please feel free to post it.

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OP you are a facking scammer, get the fuck out of here.
I vouch for Cryptodevil, he tagged me when I was a full member but after a month or two he removed the tag after I tried to reason with him.

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Tell us more about war in Bosnia.

So you are not denying that you are a former member of Croatian Defence Council Hrvatsko vijeće obrane ? Great.. in addition to suspected extortionist and pedophile we got a suspected war criminal among DT2 members. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432189.msg39722403#msg39722403


Bullshit and off topic.

Rather than looking at a poorly written article written by a journalist - lets look at what the law really says:

Dude, you are posting some bullshit about definition of securities and investments in different countries. There is no single word in that statements about ICO regulations. As I said there are NO CLEAR REGULATIONS FOR ICO'S UNTIL NOW.   And let me remind you once again, your post is OFF TOPIC There is a clear statement about off topic posts on this forum from Theymos https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.0

Finally we have this entertainment now!  Cheesy

Bullshit and off topic.

Well known "spam email" domain cyberservices.com and claiming that  that cryptodevil tried to extort mon just because someone put cryptodevil's name on it... doesn't mean that it is him.
If you have some actual evidence, please feel free to post it.


Yea, extortionists are using emails on that domains, because they are free and untraceable. So anyone including Cryptodevil could use that email for extorting. The problem here is that Cryptodevil himself can not prove that this letter was not sent by him, but I can prove that this letter was received on our email and already did that by publishing it. Because of that I'm saying that Cryptodevil is a suspected extortionist.  

OP you are a facking scammer, get the fuck out of here.

Look at your trust dude...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=806776 and you are calling somebody a scammer ? ..... This post is off topic too.

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June 11, 2018, 12:44:37 AM
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Well known "spam email" domain cyberservices.com and claiming that  that cryptodevil tried to extort mon just because someone put cryptodevil's name on it... doesn't mean that it is him.
If you have some actual evidence, please feel free to post it.

Yea, extortionists are using emails on that domains, because they are free and untraceable. So anyone including Cryptodevil could use that email for extorting. The problem here is that Cryptodevil himself can not prove that this letter was not sent by him, but I can prove that this letter was received on our email and already did that by publishing it. Because of that I'm saying that Cryptodevil is a suspected extortionist. 
No... What you are doing is making baseless accusations.

You admit that anyone could have sent that email. So, as it currently stands, you have no proof of any wrongdoing by cryptodevil.

Also, it isn't up to cryptodevil to prove he didn't send it... In this case, the onus is on the accusor (ie. You) to provide evidence that he did.

It's like arguing: "I can prove my house was robbed (broken window, stuff missing, police report)... yokxashor can't prove he didn't do it, so yokxashor is a suspected burglar" Roll Eyes

It simply doesn't work that way.

So, can you show a link between the ETH address in the email and cryptodevil? Can you show some definitive link between cyberservices.com and cryptodevil? Do you have anything of substance to back up your claim that cryptodevil tried to extort cryptocurrency from you?

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You admit that anyone could have sent that email. So, as it currently stands, you have no proof of any wrongdoing by cryptodevil.

Dude, a lot of companies are receiving extortion letters from some individuals. Do they have 100% proof that letter was sent by that individual ? The answer is NO. No one can have such proofs. What are such companies doing? They are reporting that letters to Police. Only Police and the court can confirm that letter was sent by that person. Unfortunately that does not work in crypto, because police will never investigate such case. That's why I published that letter here and mentioned that Cryptodevil is a suspected extortionist.

Plagiarism is against forum rules. Please ban yourself and get lost. Thanks.

Bullshit and off topic posted by immoral dreg of society called suchmoon. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432189.msg39620254#msg39620254
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Dude, a lot of companies are receiving extortion letters from some individuals. Do they have 100% proof that letter was sent by that individual ? The answer is NO. No one can have such proofs. What are such companies doing? They are reporting that letters to Police. Only Police and the court can confirm that letter was sent by that person. Unfortunately that does not work in crypto, because police will never investigate such case. That's why I published that letter here and mentioned that Cryptodevil is a suspected extortionist.


Oh - the police will investigate any extortion. ISP's and service providers often can find out the source of an email too.
All you need to provide is the origional header. It is reasonably easy to trace to a source unless they really know what they are doing.
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Oh - the police will investigate extortion. ISP's and service providers often can find out too.
All you need to provide is the origional header. It is reasonably easy to trace to a source unless they really know what they are doing.
What you are counting on is that nobody works for such organisation.  Grin  Grin  Grin


That's another confirmation, that you are a fucking idiot. I said that police will not investigate anything related to ICO. That never happened. Why? Because all ICO's and cryptocurrencies are not regulated by any law. But if you want me to send that letter to police I will do that. You better take care about your fucking thread where you are demanding a free speech for drug dealers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.msg39642496#msg39642496 or maybe you want me to help you you with posting in that thread ? .... Besides you are a merit abuser and must be tagged by DT members. (Account connected Lafu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=805820) Hey suchmoon why don't you tag this guy ? Or maybe he is your friend like VOD ?

http://archive.is/dDZvw#selection-4125.0-4125.7

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Hey suchmoon why don't you tag this guy ? Or maybe he is your friend like VOD ?

Bullshit and off topic posted by a scammer.

Let's get back to the topic of scam bounty participants tagged for promoting a bitconnect clone ponzi scheme.
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That's another confirmation, that you are a fucking idiot. I said that police will not investigate anything related to ICO. That never happened. Why? Because all ICO's and cryptocurrencies are not regulated by any law. But if you want me to send that letter to police I will do that. You better take care about your fucking thread where you are demanding a free speech for drug dealers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437773.msg39642496#msg39642496 or maybe you want me to help you you with posting in that thread ? .... Besides you are a merit abuser and must be tagged by DT members. (Account connected Lafu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=805820) Hey suchmoon why don't you tag this guy ? Or maybe he is your friend like VOD ?
http://archive.is/dDZvw#selection-4125.0-4125.7
https://prnt.sc/jio3hr%20Lafu:%20https://prnt.sc/jio40q

Perhaps it is because it has already been disproven in another thread. People can say anything in untrusted feedback. It doesn't make it true. If I gave a shit about rank I could have made  2000 shitposts before the merit system was introduced. I've been a member since 2016.

Perhaps you want to regurgitate the nonsense claims that the SIGT shills made as well. (A proven scam)

Do you really believe that if you say something often enough then people may believe you regardless of how stupid it sounds ?


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Perhaps it is because it has already been disproven in another thread.

It was not disproved anywhere. Dude, you and your alt account Lafu are merit system abusers and there is a proof of that

http://archive.is/dDZvw#selection-4125.0-4125.7

https://prnt.sc/jio3hr%20Lafu:%20https://prnt.sc/jio40q

I will post this in meta and if suchmoon is refusing to tag you, because he is an immoral MOFO, there are a lot of other DT members that will tag both of your profiles. It will be a good lesson for you fucking idiot.

This thread is locked till evening, because I don't plan on spending my own, already very limited time, answering some idiots here. I will reopen it soon, so don't worry suchmoon, as promised I'll make you, VOD, Cryptodevil, ACTMYNAME and MARLBOROZA the stars of scam accusation threads. We got already around 500 views and I hope in a couple of months we will reach 10 000.
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