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September 26, 2011, 09:30:03 AM
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But, I humbly suspect that the idea (and, consequentially, the "proposal") of "CPU-friendly / GPU hostile" mining existed quite since before this thread, however, your seemingly unrivaled ability to catalyze discussion was necessary for issue to gain enough momentum for kind people like ArtForz to pay some attention to it and make a nice reference implementation Smiley

Indeed, it's what I do, get things moving. A question about your previous coin geist geld, is that given up on now? I thought you just made a new website for it and all? What sort of support can we expect going forward for your new coin?

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September 26, 2011, 09:42:59 AM
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[ Indeed, it's what I do, get things moving. A question about your previous coin geist geld, is that given up on now? I thought you just made a new website for it and all? What sort of support can we expect going forward for your new coin?

Actually, it's doing quite fine, thanks for asking. A major update and an interesting Wink development Wink is on its way.

Given that both are essentially community projects, and given that they have vastly different goals and niches, Tenebrix shall in no way subtract from Geist Geld.

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September 26, 2011, 09:53:50 AM
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Actually, it's doing quite fine, thanks for asking. A major update and an interesting Wink development Wink is on its way.

Given that both are essentially community projects, and given that they have vastly different goals and niches, Tenebrix shall in no way subtract from Geist Geld.

LOL ok. I look forward to some new constants you change and package as a new coin. How many premined coins are in Tenebrix btw? 10 million?

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September 26, 2011, 09:58:30 AM
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Actually, it's doing quite fine, thanks for asking. A major update and an interesting Wink development Wink is on its way.

Given that both are essentially community projects, and given that they have vastly different goals and niches, Tenebrix shall in no way subtract from Geist Geld.

LOL ok. I look forward to some new constants you change and package as a new coin. How many premined coins are in Tenebrix btw? 10 million?

Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink

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September 26, 2011, 01:05:02 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.

You're right to mention the Solidcoin "tax", as it is the one thing that puts it head and shoulders above every other coin (including your shitty ones). We will call it a tax for ease of responding to trolling, but as you know It's not exactly a tax in the classical sense. Miners will still earn 32 coins per block as they always have done. Nothing is deducted, only added. I like to think of it more as a sovereign bond Wink

The fund created by the tax will ensure Solidcoin's future and will hopefully make it into a truly open, self-funded project. The first of its kind in the world.

The only way Bitcoin have to "solve" the funding issue is to put Gavin on the payroll of a privately owned exchange company... Great idea guys. Grin
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September 26, 2011, 01:47:26 PM
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CH, thanks for giving Lolcust the idea.

Now I have a CPU-chain that's solid!

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September 26, 2011, 02:21:54 PM
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... well, SolidCoin got at least one MAJOR idea from GG/Lolcust ...
(which I believe to be the main reason for the existence of SC2.0)

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September 26, 2011, 02:32:22 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.

Y u h8 me ?

Tenebrix and solidcoin are both srs bzns

You're right to mention the Solidcoin "tax", as it is the one thing that puts it head and shoulders above every other coin

Oh well...

We will call it a tax for ease of responding to trolling, but as you know It's not exactly a tax in the classical sense. Miners will still earn 32 coins per block as they always have done. Nothing is deducted, only added.

It's trivial to frame taxes in same way with clever accounting.

In fact, that is exactly what typical sources on tax do, in a roundabout way :-)

I like to think of it more as a sovereign bond Wink

Lol that certainly makes it better.

What next, solidcoin conscription army and solidcoin Lukashenko Wink ?

The fund created by the tax will ensure Solidcoin's future and will hopefully make it into a truly open, self-funded project. The first of its kind in the world.

The only way Bitcoin have to "solve" the funding issue is to put Gavin on the payroll of a privately owned exchange company... Great idea guys. Grin

Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO

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September 26, 2011, 02:55:15 PM
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only one point from a "normal" W7-user:

SC2.0 is an outstanding user friendly software:
downloading, installing, hashing and "earning" (testwise)

Tenebrix is just the opposite:
download, read something about installing...
it's like a construction manual from IKEA - sometimes it works...
erase that software is what a "normal" user does...
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September 26, 2011, 03:32:44 PM
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Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO


We shall see... The company hardly seems reputable or established, and apart from a high margin shopping site and a questionable overpriced way to buy bullion all of their "Killer apps" are "coming soon"... I predict it will fold fairly quickly.
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September 26, 2011, 03:46:33 PM
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Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO


We shall see... The company hardly seems reputable or established, and apart from a high margin shopping site and a questionable overpriced way to buy bullion all of their "Killer apps" are "coming soon"... I predict it will fold fairly quickly.

Are we still talking about TruCoin?  That sounds a lot like SC to me.

*Not reputable
*Not established
*"Coming Soon" all over the place
*Will fold fairly quickly (oh wait it already has)

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September 26, 2011, 03:56:03 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.

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September 26, 2011, 04:22:01 PM
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only one point from a "normal" W7-user:

SC2.0 is an outstanding user friendly software:
downloading, installing, hashing and "earning" (testwise)

Tenebrix is just the opposite:
download, read something about installing...
it's like a construction manual from IKEA - sometimes it works...
erase that software is what a "normal" user does...

Well, Tenebrix was born pretty impulsively out of discussion on IRC.

Having said that, as a windows 7 user to a windows 7 user, which part of the "portable windows bundle" is the most confusing, the mining part ?


Actually that was pretty smart of them, IMHO


We shall see... The company hardly seems reputable or established, and apart from a high margin shopping site and a questionable overpriced way to buy bullion all of their "Killer apps" are "coming soon"... I predict it will fold fairly quickly.

It is still a company and not a quasi-State construct fueled by "pseudo-taxes" and existing in a medium that is quite hostile to State-like structures.

Having said that, I am not personally opposed to the Solidcoin experiment, just not optimistic as to eventual fate of quasi-States made from sheer Internet, arcane mathematications, and a very special form of "leadership driven" outlook (I do tend to pull its leg on occasion, but as you might easily observe, I try to remain civil and fairly lighthearted in these exchanges of opinions Smiley )


Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.

Excuse me Maged, KGB has seized my hardware sarcasm detector, and software implementation is kinda meh.

Are you being sarcastic ?

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September 26, 2011, 04:28:57 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.

Excuse me Maged, KGB has seized my hardware sarcasm detector, and software implementation is kinda meh.

Are you being sarcastic ?
I am being quite serious. Things are actually getting somewhere now! (without destroying themselves in the process)

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September 26, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.


lol that was the last straw for me. u just derped all over ur own herp and i frankly have had enough of it.

p.s. u call urself someone who can resolve disputes but with with u just said u most certainly don't fit the job as someone who sees all the different sides of the things.

p.s.s. bitcoin devs are pro.
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Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.

Excuse me Maged, KGB has seized my hardware sarcasm detector, and software implementation is kinda meh.

Are you being sarcastic ?
I am being quite serious. Things are actually getting somewhere now! (without destroying themselves in the process)

Well, Geist Geld so far has not destroyed itself (despite a turbulent beginning that has lead to discovery of no less than two exploits in "typical bitcoin implementation") and is feeling nice (It would benefit a lot from some more coder love though, as there is an upper limit as to a given graphic designer's C-ing ability)

But I am very pleased with your kind assessment of Tenebrix, thank you.

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September 28, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.


lol that was the last straw for me. u just derped all over ur own herp and i frankly have had enough of it.

p.s. u call urself someone who can resolve disputes but with with u just said u most certainly don't fit the job as someone who sees all the different sides of the things.

p.s.s. bitcoin devs are pro.

oh I almost forgot. What about all of their premined 7mill coins in both the chains he released. herpdederp

Tenebrix / gg will die do to those premined coins, whether he claims that they will be used for a money laundering fund or not.
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September 28, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
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Why, 2 bilionteen coinsez (warning - a joke Cheesy )

But then again, Tenebrix doesn't expect miners to pay "protection" taxes, which affects budgetary policy a lot Wink


Appropriate joke answer from a joke coin maker. Tenebrix is purely a troll against Solidcoin, and nobody's impressed.
Actually, I am pretty impressed. And I'm hard to impress. Tenebrix is the first alternative cyptocurrency that I believe has the right mix of innovation, conformity with the safety mechanisms of Bitcoin, and leadership. The future of crypocurrency is bright indeed.

I feel that the Soildcoin developers could get quite close to Tenebrix in version 2, but without that leadership and knowledge, they will inevitably fail.


lol that was the last straw for me. u just derped all over ur own herp and i frankly have had enough of it.

p.s. u call urself someone who can resolve disputes but with with u just said u most certainly don't fit the job as someone who sees all the different sides of the things.

p.s.s. bitcoin devs are pro.

oh I almost forgot. What about all of their premined 7mill coins in both the chains he released. herpdederp

Tenebrix / gg will die do to those premined coins, whether he claims that they will be used for a money laundering fund or not.

Yawn.

Issue is settled in a democratic way and a significant portion of fund will be used to feed a Faucet service to alleviate first-adopter issue.

Also, mr. Laundry man, markets deal only with entities involved in economic activity, not entities in existence, so as long as I do not sell off, whether I have a million or a billion coinsez is absolutely irrelevant as far as the overall market behavior is concerned (Unless you believe markets to be optimum-decision magical unicorns, in which case we should see severe price declines in Veblen goods which are subject to strong cartel effects (or perhaps even nonexistence of such a category as Veblen goods altogether). Which we do not see. So much for unicorns Sad )

Besides, at the very least my humble fund was created by my very own electricity, while a certain other coin is intended to give its creator a Superfund of dramatic proportions while not even having him mine a single block Smiley

While the ethics of my design decision are of course open to debate, the alternative design, which you seem to support, is going to be even less fair and far more, might I say, inhumane and bizarre.

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September 28, 2011, 04:04:39 PM
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I certainly don't trust Lolcust as far as I can throw him. Pre-mining 7 million coins and keeping them all for himself is an obvious attempt to get rich and get out, much like ixcoin and iocoin were.

"It doesn't affect the economy if I never sell them!!!"

What a joke.
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I certainly don't trust Lolcust as far as I can throw him. Pre-mining 7 million coins and keeping them all for himself is an obvious attempt to get rich and get out, much like ixcoin and iocoin were.

"It doesn't affect the economy if I never sell them!!!"

What a joke.

Whaaa?  I0 coin didn't have any premined mines.

And what's the difference between 1m premined w/tax vs 7m premined w/o tax?  Hell, at least Lolcust did miners the courtesy of getting all his upfront.

Hey I'm even on the fence about the 7m premined thing, but I find it laughable that all the SC supporters are coming out of the woodwork to gnaw at Lolcust.

... I think CH is jealous.

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