risk in hodling and trading strategy

[XbladedThanos]

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

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[Distinctin]

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

That is how we supposedly to think that keep holding isn't the best option for this volatile market cause in the first place we don't even know the right timing for pumps and mostly were ended into a sad story of holding. It only good for holding if you have invested with Bitcoin or the leading top 10 coins in the market for new coins, its just nonsense for me cause I'm a victim also and its a learning for me.

[wxa7115]

I guess not. Holding is not a sure way of gaining profit but its a safe way to play with the market's volatility. There is no certain things here in the market when speaking of price and values but one thing is constant and it is the movement from time to time of prices wherein holding becomes risky.

True, holding for the long term is for those that do not know how to deal with the volatility by themselves in such a case holding your coins is a great strategy that can give profits if you invest in good projects with almost no effort which makes this strategy very attractive but it is not as easy to hold your coins at it may seem at first glance, most coins in the market are not very good and many are still holding coins that have no market value since they did not knew when it was a good idea to stop holding their coins.

This is one reason why I have become a trader some time ago since I have finally learned how to deal with the volatility of this market and while not easy I prefer this over holding my coins for the long term.

[zee11225]

Trading isn't for those who are scared to lose their shit at the same time you must be careful, well it's a complicated matter . Other than bad-mouths we can always rely on holding than risking it for a low price to pull it up after. The pull up strategy is a good one but that doesn't guarantee you to have everything, well there is a saying what can you do if you are already dead, that saying also implies to various things like money or possessions.

The coward in trading is the main enemy, because everything is always predicted with fear, even though profit or loss is the dynamics that all traders must experience in trading any type.
So that the decisions taken are always speculative but based on calculated logic and supported by accurate data data I think it can make a profit. Whereas HODL is a silent strategy, which is only stored for sale when the price is already profitable.

[emmybd]

I don't think that there is much rick in holding, if you are holding well-established coins. It is better than trading, if you are a not well-experienced trader. Just avoid high-risk coins then it would be fine.

[Aivaryamal]

The risks in these strategies are even more dependent on the development of cryptocurrencies themselves, how much their team is experienced and motivated for further progress and market conquest

[Noa_Amable]

I've seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that many mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to lose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Let's discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often suggested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copied and change a little. Faked. I can create my own whitepaper in which ill write that tomorrow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought followers
3- code - who of us can check if code is OK? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- being unique didn't give you certainty of being unique forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamental analyst wrong or didn't do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 won't survive next few years because they are not necessary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happened? Your investment will continuously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I don't think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundamental and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He don't w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he tries to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoploss which is set in his trading strategy. And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He don't fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy opportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he sees opportunity on 5 min candles he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasn't faked. He also don't have chance to learn to invest because after first buy decision there is only hodl

I would say: if you are holding you do not live the life =)

[zhekinsp]

The risk of crypto currency holders and traders is that we really don't know when the prices will increase or decrease so as long as they are having cryptos in their wallet they are in uncertain stage of what will happen.

[ongkok87]

for the risk of trading and holding it is equally large because in trading if we are too panic then it will be a loss as well as indeed if we are impatient and too long to hold it will be a loss too

[Activitycoin]

for the risk of trading and holding it is equally large because in trading if we are too panic then it will be a loss as well as indeed if we are impatient and too long to hold it will be a loss too

For this we will have to remain moderate, try to hold when market is low and don’t sell at panic but for holding it is very important to keep our eyes on market, greed is not good when people only hold and hold in wait of increase the profit, they suffer lose, after certain rise when price start getting down, then sell don’t wait for more profit.

[AngellSky]

for the risk of trading and holding it is equally large because in trading if we are too panic then it will be a loss as well as indeed if we are impatient and too long to hold it will be a loss too

For this we will have to remain moderate, try to hold when market is low and don’t sell at panic but for holding it is very important to keep our eyes on market, greed is not good when people only hold and hold in wait of increase the profit, they suffer lose, after certain rise when price start getting down, then sell don’t wait for more profit.

It still seems to me that in trade more degrees must be counted on luck, because if there is a desire to make money on the difference in price, then everything can always happen with exactly the opposite, and not in the way we plan.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I differ greatly in some of the affirmations, hold is not just a recommendation for novices, investment is a strategy that has always had world-class investors, Warren Buffet is not a novice, Tom Williams, Jon Greenblatt, most have been investors and have a great career and have been authors of books that are based on their experiences, giving advice about making investment, which recommend making an investment given a prior investigation of them, whether actions or, in this case, cryptocurrencies. Everyone agrees that you should wait a long time to get benefits, that is, you can become a millionaire over time.

Now, if we take into account the current state of the market, analyzed with the support of the theory of Wyckoff, we are in a phase of accumulation, special to buy and maintain until the bitcoin has its upward stage.

Market speculators can trade, provided they know how to do it in the right direction of the market. The famous Jesse Livermore, a market speculator, always said that he should follow the market line that has least resistance, that is, it can never go against the market.

If your considerations in OP are for ICO projects or new nascent projects, these results may occur, but it is advisable to invest in currencies such as Bitcoin and the coins Top 5 worldwide, since they have a greater structure and confidence.

The processes of speculation and investment will always have their risks, nothing is certain, you should only choose what risk you want to take.

[Btchunter3333]

Yes i think holder strategy is not safe, but the problem is if someone not know when to sell and hold the coins for longer time and the coins not more grow the problem is that maybe that coins not grow in time and if hold can't get any profit.

[whaawh]

I differ greatly in some of the affirmations, hold is not just a recommendation for novices, investment is a strategy that has always had world-class investors, Warren Buffet is not a novice, Tom Williams, Jon Greenblatt, most have been investors and have a great career and have been authors of books that are based on their experiences, giving advice about making investment, which recommend making an investment given a prior investigation of them, whether actions or, in this case, cryptocurrencies. Everyone agrees that you should wait a long time to get benefits, that is, you can become a millionaire over time.

Now, if we take into account the current state of the market, analyzed with the support of the theory of Wyckoff, we are in a phase of accumulation, special to buy and maintain until the bitcoin has its upward stage.

Market speculators can trade, provided they know how to do it in the right direction of the market. The famous Jesse Livermore, a market speculator, always said that he should follow the market line that has least resistance, that is, it can never go against the market.

If your considerations in OP are for ICO projects or new nascent projects, these results may occur, but it is advisable to invest in currencies such as Bitcoin and the coins Top 5 worldwide, since they have a greater structure and confidence.

The processes of speculation and investment will always have their risks, nothing is certain, you should only choose what risk you want to take.

I completely agree with your statement and quite understand that today all activity for a newbie in the cryptocurrency market carries a very big risk. Regardless of whether it is a daily trade or investment in an ico company. Today, the presence of a large number of fraudsters also contributes negatively to the future results of our activities.

[wall101]

For those people in weak hands also sell immediately their altcoins in low price so its better to make other strategy if their are some issue of holding coins.

[Lanatsa]

I differ greatly in some of the affirmations, hold is not just a recommendation for novices, investment is a strategy that has always had world-class investors, Warren Buffet is not a novice, Tom Williams, Jon Greenblatt, most have been investors and have a great career and have been authors of books that are based on their experiences, giving advice about making investment, which recommend making an investment given a prior investigation of them, whether actions or, in this case, cryptocurrencies. Everyone agrees that you should wait a long time to get benefits, that is, you can become a millionaire over time.

Now, if we take into account the current state of the market, analyzed with the support of the theory of Wyckoff, we are in a phase of accumulation, special to buy and maintain until the bitcoin has its upward stage.

Market speculators can trade, provided they know how to do it in the right direction of the market. The famous Jesse Livermore, a market speculator, always said that he should follow the market line that has least resistance, that is, it can never go against the market.

If your considerations in OP are for ICO projects or new nascent projects, these results may occur, but it is advisable to invest in currencies such as Bitcoin and the coins Top 5 worldwide, since they have a greater structure and confidence.

The processes of speculation and investment will always have their risks, nothing is certain, you should only choose what risk you want to take.

I completely agree with your statement and quite understand that today all activity for a newbie in the cryptocurrency market carries a very big risk. Regardless of whether it is a daily trade or investment in an ico company. Today, the presence of a large number of fraudsters also contributes negatively to the future results of our activities.

For being a newbie the chances of risk is quiet higher compared to those people who do already have the experience with this market specially with
the awareness on whats happening around of this market.On any investment there would be always an accompanied risk of losing money even if you do
just simply hold or actively trading it.

[Bitcotalk]

HOLDING is actually one of the most terrible idea especially if you dont study the project so well i remember holding almost 500$ and then turning into actually nothing at the end of the day with the devs complaining and blaming the bearish market so just know what to actually Hodl

Business is not all about making money all the time. You have to loose money to learn and then make it again to the peak. So those people who cannot go with trading would never make money in trading and would always have to wait for the bull run to make profits which is not every day happening. Eventually these kinds of people either have to enter the trading or leave the market for the pursuit of benefits in other assets.

[D3m1r4wanti]

trading does have a very high risk, but with such a high risk I prefer trading compared to just holding.
holding not thinking too much about the strategy, they just wait for the price to go up to sell the tokens they have.

[zee11225]

Yes i think holder strategy is not safe, but the problem is if someone not know when to sell and hold the coins for longer time and the coins not more grow the problem is that maybe that coins not grow in time and if hold can't get any profit.

HODL is the safest strategy according to some observers, because buying then saves until prices rise, then sell and profit. Theoretically is correct, but the problem is when it will increase how long to hold a coin while daily necessities are very urgent.
For trading, I tend to be more fun because of fast circulation, and there are few sales. No need to wait long because trading can be capitalized

[wxxyrqa]

Yes i think holder strategy is not safe, but the problem is if someone not know when to sell and hold the coins for longer time and the coins not more grow the problem is that maybe that coins not grow in time and if hold can't get any profit.

HODL is the safest strategy according to some observers, because buying then saves until prices rise, then sell and profit. Theoretically is correct, but the problem is when it will increase how long to hold a coin while daily necessities are very urgent.
For trading, I tend to be more fun because of fast circulation, and there are few sales. No need to wait long because trading can be capitalized

It seems to me that if it were possible to understand what is really happening in the cryptocurrency market, it would be possible to make a concrete decision based on this. but since half of the users of cryptocurrency are expecting another price drop, and the other half are waiting for an increase in prices for cryptocurrency, I am astray.