Hashflare mining is not giving payouts anymore?

[Slow death]

BTC would have to be over $9200 with the current mining difficulty in order for payouts to become greater than the maintenance fee.

think, when will we see more than $9200? nobody knows and this can take months or years.

If that isn't a clear sign that people should stay away from that site, then I don't know what is. HashFlare just admitted that the price needs to increase with 50% just to start earning again.

And even in that case, what people will be earning it is likely just a couple of Satoshi's, which is an utter waste of time. Can you imagine how long people have to wait till they reach the minimum withdrawal amount?

You know the sad part? The people joining from platforms such as YouTube won't get to read this. The only thing these people know is that cloud mining is profitable due to all the paid shills there.

about this: " You know the sad part? ", besides agreeing with you, I think the saddest part is what I did not see, I had not seen this post done by him:

Hello Hashflare Team,


When mining will become profitable again? What is the value that Bitcoin needs to reach in order to resume the mining process ?

Hi!

BTC would have to be over $9200 with the current mining difficulty in order for payouts to become greater than the maintenance fee.

Just 9k, everyone told me at least 11k for good profit. Anyway, this all seems like faraway dream now

Guess the information I previously provided was a bit outdated... 10k is the price for payouts to become positive again at the moment.

he basically just told people to sit because they will not get profits so soon and it's all bitcoin's fault. this is my interpretation of the post made by them. The stranger in all this, is that on their twitter account is full of people complaining and accusing them of being scam, and in this thread of them I did not see anyone complaining about them. which leads me to think that it is delete  the posts of the people who complain. But of course, I have no evidence for it and is just a guess and I may be wrong.

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[1Referee]

Hi!

BTC would have to be over $9200 with the current mining difficulty in order for payouts to become greater than the maintenance fee.

Guess the information I previously provided was a bit outdated... 10k is the price for payouts to become positive again at the moment.

That's straight bullshit.

HashFlare tries to trick people into thinking that if Bitcoin reaches a higher level that their payouts will be positive again, but that's completely false. If the price increases up to the $10,000 level, the difficulty will increase significantly as well, which basically means that people will still NOT be able to generate ANY income. Newbies on social media might fall for that nonsense, but you have to try harder if you don't want to get trashed here.

[Ben Walsh (beamer)]

on their twitter account is full of people complaining and accusing them of being scam

Strange thing. When I checked Twitter, there were only tweets about withdrawals and a lot of off topic talks

[Cyberdime]

I've seen some negative reviews w/ hashflare hashtag on it, but verbiage was all the same, so it seems like bots twits

[HashFlare]

with this: " This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

why did you do that? Do you want to delete comments from people who were different from your position?

That was done in order to delete potential comments consisting of nothing than swearing or questions that should be addressed to tech support, although so far only one such comment was posted and deleted.

The whole point of creating that topic was to have a constructive discussion and people are more than welcome to ask their questions and state their opinions, regardless of whether we agree with them or not.

he basically just told people to sit because they will not get profits so soon and it's all bitcoin's fault. this is my interpretation of the post made by them.

What I did was just clarify what price BTC would have to reach in order for clients' balances to start growing again (with the current mining difficulty). It is no secret and can be easily checked by using any online mining calculator.

That's straight bullshit.

HashFlare tries to trick people into thinking that if Bitcoin reaches a higher level that their payouts will be positive again, but that's completely false. If the price increases up to the $10,000 level, the difficulty will increase significantly as well, which basically means that people will still NOT be able to generate ANY income. Newbies on social media might fall for that nonsense, but you have to try harder if you don't want to get trashed here.

Once again, that is the price that would make payouts higher than MEF with the current mining difficulty. Yes, the increase in BTC price might lead to the increase in mining difficulty, but that is not 100% certain. Difficulty began steadily increasing starting in January 2018, but by that time the price was already on a downward spiral.

[Ben Walsh (beamer)]

I do not see the problem that

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

Any thread should be moderated or do you want the same mess here as in twitter? Pple just write there pointless posts with one word 

[Slow death]

I do not see the problem that

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

Any thread should be moderated or do you want the same mess here as in twitter? Pple just write there pointless posts with one word 

self-moderated topic is a big problem because the OP can delete the posts he does not like and we will hardly know if there is any transparency and fear of trolls or something, I do not see this being a good argument since if the person provide good service then there will be no reason for people to complain, people complain when someone provide bad service.

[leowonderful]

Yep, most of the time, I only see self-moderated topics when there's scam posts going on in the Goods section of the Marketplace, or there's questionable services attempting to hide things in their ANN or discussion topics. It's not necessarily bad; one example of a good self-moderated topic I often see is philipma1957's altcoin threads, which aren't too censored at all and actually contain good discussion that I often read. The lack of transparency is indeed an issue, however, and I trust forum members with as much reputation as phil wouldn't censor out negative posts (there isn't much there, the thread is a mining thread after all) compared to a service.

[CirnoChuck]

That's why we need admins for HF page)) Twitter is more random, so it has no moderation and you'll see a lot of copied twits

I do not see the problem that

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

Any thread should be moderated or do you want the same mess here as in twitter? Pple just write there pointless posts with one word 

[LoverOfBitcoin]

People even complain if they got a million from hashflare like why didn't we get 2 million?))

I do not see the problem that

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

Any thread should be moderated or do you want the same mess here as in twitter? Pple just write there pointless posts with one word 

self-moderated topic is a big problem because the OP can delete the posts he does not like and we will hardly know if there is any transparency and fear of trolls or something, I do not see this being a good argument since if the person provide good service then there will be no reason for people to complain, people complain when someone provide bad service.

People always complain
Moreover there are a lot of crazy people. I used to work in the service sector and can say it for sure.
I think if there is no criticism, only positive comments then it's suspicious, otherwise I don't think it's a problem

[Ireson]

People even complain if they got a million from hashflare like why didn't we get 2 million?))

I do not see the problem that

" This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. "

Any thread should be moderated or do you want the same mess here as in twitter? Pple just write there pointless posts with one word 

self-moderated topic is a big problem because the OP can delete the posts he does not like and we will hardly know if there is any transparency and fear of trolls or something, I do not see this being a good argument since if the person provide good service then there will be no reason for people to complain, people complain when someone provide bad service.

People always complain
Moreover there are a lot of crazy people. I used to work in the service sector and can say it for sure.
I think if there is no criticism, only positive comments then it's suspicious, otherwise I don't think it's a problem

Exactly! Thats human nature
If smth goes wrong-we complain, if everything is ok we silent

[Ilya001]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

[helo]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

yes but you still need to control yourself! We can not blame someone if there is no evidence

[LoverOfBitcoin]

True, but is it possible that those people are trying to get money in any possible ways?
Like in a grocery store

[Abbie Hoffman]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

[Haven7]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

Tell it all the haters around I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary.

[Ireson]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

Tell it all the haters around I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary.

Exactly! Its not the fisrt time bitcoin falls, so don't panic guys!

[Scarlett07]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

Tell it all the haters around I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary.

Exactly! Its not the fisrt time bitcoin falls, so don't panic guys!

Actually within my recollection it's at least fifth time

[akramali]

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

Tell it all the haters around I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary.

crypto is here to stay for sure, but whether HF can overcome this crisis, we'll know only afterwards)

Yeah, the more time passes, the more chances we have contracts can just expire. But everyone keeps saying the beginning of 2019 is our hour of triumph. 

Hope so, it's been hard year for crypto; we all need better price.

[Cyberdime]

Agree this year was hard for BTC and for Hashflare of course, we'll see what's next

I would even say, if everytning is ok, we also complain. Look at Genesis - before its customers were like it's the best company, we're happy not to invest in hashflare. And now when genesis stopped payout - they're opposite

No loyalty at all to a company that was making money for you for ages!

+1 agree!
I do not understand those people, who kick someone when he's down

But we are talkin about money
its hard to stay calm and wait when it comes to money

Yeah I fully understand it. But what can we do? Angry posts wont change btc price

We are in he same boat, crisis influenced everybody) Hate is not the answer here, patience is.

Tell it all the haters around I agree with you, we need just to be patient, current situation is temporary.

crypto is here to stay for sure, but whether HF can overcome this crisis, we'll know only afterwards)

Yeah, the more time passes, the more chances we have contracts can just expire. But everyone keeps saying the beginning of 2019 is our hour of triumph. 

Hope so, it's been hard year for crypto; we all need better price.