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June 14, 2018, 05:32:13 PM
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Lol so just because you made profit and you were allowed to withdraw doesn't mean that sportsbet is real. They obviously have lot of players on their site who still gamble daily and are still able to make withdrawals flawlessly but there are still many players who earnings were taken by the site for no reason. People have a mixed opinion about the site but on this forum for most it is a scam

show me 1 with evidence
You seriously for proof go to their ann thread and see the profile of their account, it's full of scam accusations, just google sportsbet.io scam this isn't the only forum where people are facing any issues check other forums as well as i said it might be good for you it's not same for everyone

The same "scam accusation" for 15 BTC (which was returned) is floating around the internet.

They caught him, and lucky for him, returned his 15 BTC deposit.

People don't understand that the scam artist attempted to defraud Sportsbet.

If you aren't familiar with the term "Double Spending," do yourself a favor and Google it.
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June 14, 2018, 05:48:23 PM
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Lol so just because you made profit and you were allowed to withdraw doesn't mean that sportsbet is real. They obviously have lot of players on their site who still gamble daily and are still able to make withdrawals flawlessly but there are still many players who earnings were taken by the site for no reason. People have a mixed opinion about the site but on this forum for most it is a scam

show me 1 with evidence
You seriously for proof go to their ann thread and see the profile of their account, it's full of scam accusations, just google sportsbet.io scam this isn't the only forum where people are facing any issues check other forums as well as i said it might be good for you it's not same for everyone

I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
and same thing for the trust rating here in the forums , even nitrogen has red trust do this make them fraud ??

I'm being 100% realistic here , sportsbet doesn't need to scam money since their odds are the shittiest in bitcoin betting

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else

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June 14, 2018, 06:05:15 PM
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Either you or the publicly proven Sportsbet scam is lying!!!

Because according to their statement they are obligated to ID verification if withdrawals exceeds the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300.

Hi all,

Regarding the complaint of player ExcessTest:

sportsbet.io is a regulated online gambling provider which does not withold customers funds and processes hundreds of withdrawals of BTC in a week.

Regardless the nature of Bitcoin payments as a regulated operator we are obliged to ID verification, KYC and AML (anti-money laundering) procedures by the regulator at certain withdrawal levels.

We have stated this clearly in our Terms & Conditions page available here –
https://sportsbet.io/about/general-terms-and-conditions
3.3.3. Sportsbet reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300 which ever is lower, and further reserves the right to carry out such verification procedures in case of smaller withdrawals, as demanded by our gaming license. Account Holders who wish to recover funds held in a closed, locked or excluded account, are advised to contact Customer Support.

You're quoting Terms & Conditions from 2017, and they have since changed.  
9.2. Sportsbet.io reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 1 Bitcoin or €2000 as regulated by our gaming license.
All that means is that they reserve the right to KYC anything over 1 BTC, not that it is a requirement.
You seem to be confused, which isn't really much of a surprise.
You are the one who is confused! Roll Eyes

Their own terms of service confirm their scam! Because if they are required by their regulator (whoever this is?) to do KYC, then they have to do this always and also in case of deposits!

And this confirms that they are not regulated and reserve the right to do KYC only in case of withdrawals to find a reason to defraud winnings and deposits!


The same "scam accusation" for 15 BTC (which was returned) is floating around the internet.

They caught him, and lucky for him, returned his 15 BTC deposit.

People don't understand that the scam artist attempted to defraud Sportsbet.

If you aren't familiar with the term "Double Spending," do yourself a favor and Google it.
How did they catch him and where is the proof of how they catched him?

The victim authorized sportsbet to publicise the proof and sportsbet denied! This says it all! At least for someone with a brain in his head.

If you have an issue with them, why do they offer to ask gamblers? How sick is this?

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June 14, 2018, 07:20:13 PM
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I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
That is a logical fallacy lol If a company scams 100 bitcoins from their customer, would you wait for them to scam another 100 to take their fraudulent practices into consideration? I'm not sure if you're too nice or just not smart enough.Scam is a scam, regardless of the amount stolen.

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else
I don't mind getting a low price if the website is trustworthy.Giving high odds to attract customers and then stealing their money is no way better than the former.


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June 14, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
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I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
That is a logical fallacy lol If a company scams 100 bitcoins from their customer, would you wait for them to scam another 100 to take their fraudulent practices into consideration? I'm not sure if you're too nice or just not smart enough.Scam is a scam, regardless of the amount stolen.

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else
I don't mind getting a low price if the website is trustworthy.Giving high odds to attract customers and then stealing their money is no way better than the former.

nah it's not a fallacy , they are saying that the user had suspicious acts and you can't be sure if that was the case or not ( that's why I'm against accepting bets without getting network confirmation )

regarding the odds no , you shouldn't take low prices even if the site is trustworthy since long term you won't make money
you can find trusted sites like betking , bitcoinrush and nitrogen that they will take your bets at higher odds than sportsbet

funny most of the people commented don't know how sportsbetting work , if they did they wouldn't accuse sportsbet cause sportsbet is making tons of money by just accepting bets

 

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June 14, 2018, 09:19:42 PM
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Lol so just because you made profit and you were allowed to withdraw doesn't mean that sportsbet is real. They obviously have lot of players on their site who still gamble daily and are still able to make withdrawals flawlessly but there are still many players who earnings were taken by the site for no reason. People have a mixed opinion about the site but on this forum for most it is a scam

show me 1 with evidence
You seriously for proof go to their ann thread and see the profile of their account, it's full of scam accusations, just google sportsbet.io scam this isn't the only forum where people are facing any issues check other forums as well as i said it might be good for you it's not same for everyone

I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
and same thing for the trust rating here in the forums , even nitrogen has red trust do this make them fraud ??

I'm being 100% realistic here , sportsbet doesn't need to scam money since their odds are the shittiest in bitcoin betting

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else
I mean you make sense nitrogen also has many reports against them as i said it's literally user to user preference i hate that site because they closed my account without any reasons and claiming i had multiple account which was completely untrue and they even took my funds so that's why i hate maybe people might have same issue with nitrogen you never know

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June 15, 2018, 07:29:52 AM
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Weren't the 15BTC returned to the guy?

I once withdrew almost 0.5BTC from them without a problem, even got a free 5mBTC bet.

Think they're safe for lower amounts.
But then again, OP did get a huge-ass withdrawal o.o

 
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June 15, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
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I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
That is a logical fallacy lol If a company scams 100 bitcoins from their customer, would you wait for them to scam another 100 to take their fraudulent practices into consideration? I'm not sure if you're too nice or just not smart enough.Scam is a scam, regardless of the amount stolen.

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else
I don't mind getting a low price if the website is trustworthy.Giving high odds to attract customers and then stealing their money is no way better than the former.

nah it's not a fallacy , they are saying that the user had suspicious acts and you can't be sure if that was the case or not ( that's why I'm against accepting bets without getting network confirmation )

regarding the odds no , you shouldn't take low prices even if the site is trustworthy since long term you won't make money
you can find trusted sites like betking , bitcoinrush and nitrogen that they will take your bets at higher odds than nitrogen

funny most of the people commented don't know how sportsbetting work , if they did they wouldn't accuse sportsbet cause sportsbet is making tons of money by just accepting bets

 

Sygambler gets it, too bad other don't-

I think what people fail to understand about this sportsbook, they have wide enough margins and more than likely take in enough action that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by stealing from players.
It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
This is why I trusted Sportsbet and joined their signature campaign, where I was always paid on time and when promised. 
I have only good things to say about this Sportsbook and until someone actually comes forward to prove otherwise, it should be know that Sportsbet is a trustworthy Sportsbook.

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June 15, 2018, 06:31:14 PM
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Sygambler gets it, too bad other don't-

I think what people fail to understand about this sportsbook, they have wide enough margins and more than likely take in enough action that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by stealing from players.
It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
This is why I trusted Sportsbet and joined their signature campaign, where I was always paid on time and when promised. 
I have only good things to say about this Sportsbook and until someone actually comes forward to prove otherwise, it should be know that Sportsbet is a trustworthy Sportsbook.

hehe glad you showed up mate , at least the community here knows that you are a profitable tipster and know about this biz
cause I'm being accused of being an idiot shill by people who clearly don't know anything about sportsbetting

if they have done their research they would know that sportsbet is making tons with their margin , and I have said it many times that I would happily accept such bets with such odds if people want to bet with me ( even if they want to deal with escrow ) simply because I can lay the stake at higher odds somewhere else

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Sygambler gets it, too bad other don't-

I think what people fail to understand about this sportsbook, they have wide enough margins and more than likely take in enough action that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by stealing from players.
It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
This is why I trusted Sportsbet and joined their signature campaign, where I was always paid on time and when promised. 
I have only good things to say about this Sportsbook and until someone actually comes forward to prove otherwise, it should be know that Sportsbet is a trustworthy Sportsbook.

hehe glad you showed up mate , at least the community here knows that you are a profitable tipster and know about this biz
cause I'm being accused of being an idiot shill by people who clearly don't know anything about sportsbetting

if they have done their research they would know that sportsbet is making tons with their margin , and I have said it many times that I would happily accept such bets with such odds if people want to bet with me ( even if they want to deal with escrow ) simply because I can lay the stake at higher odds somewhere else

You're a valid asset to this community, so I felt it was only right to chime in and come to your defense.
The last thing this forum needs is good people like yourself leaving as a result of others wrongfully accusing/critiquing you.

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June 15, 2018, 11:22:02 PM
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I think what people fail to understand about this sportsbook, they have wide enough margins and more than likely take in enough action that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by stealing from players.
I like your over-confidence.Which cave have you been living under? You know what you fail to understand? Common Sense.

It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
Because they can? Why they wouldn't? Who doesn't want more money? How can you be so sure that they're making enough money? If they're making enough money off bets, there's someone definitely losing on the other side? Bet Matching, bookie chain etc are some of the concepts what I feel you have failed to understand and your knowledge in sportsbook is weak.

This is why I trusted Sportsbet and joined their signature campaign, where I was always paid on time and when promised. 
I have only good things to say about this Sportsbook and until someone actually comes forward to prove otherwise, it should be know that Sportsbet is a trustworthy Sportsbook.
Shut the fuck up already if you can't bring logic to the table..Stop being their shill..


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June 16, 2018, 03:34:36 AM
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It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
Because they can? Why they wouldn't? Who doesn't want more money? How can you be so sure that they're making enough money? If they're making enough money off bets, there's someone definitely losing on the other side? Bet Matching, bookie chain etc are some of the concepts what I feel you have failed to understand and your knowledge in sportsbook is weak.

Because they're likely making decent money, so it would be a waste to gain a moderately sized lump sum and kill off a large revenue stream. The person losing on the other side is the bettor, as they are accepting very poor odds. I don't see how bet matching is related, but someone trying to arb on sportsbet.io is either stupid or taking advantage of promotions. Or, if you meant sportsbet.io matching bets, they could easily match with other bettors on their platform if there's a lot of volume, or even use another book such as Pinnacle, Betfair or Fairlay to counter each bet, and still make a decent percentage. There's also sportsbook providers that pay you a % of each bet, regardless of the outcome, and they could be using one of them as well.

I fail to see how a bookie chain is related to this either. They don't seem to be obviously mirroring the odds of another sportsbook like other books do (BitcoinRush mirrors Pinnacle, most Fairlay market makers seem to as well).

Throwing in random buzzwords and not explaining or elaborating doesn't make your argument any stronger.

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June 16, 2018, 06:37:07 AM
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once again , nobody showed me an evidence that they made scam,
im sure these are who says scam are other casino owners which want to ruin the reputation of sportsbet .
i also cashout another 7.882BTC with no any problem
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Because they're likely making decent money, so it would be a waste to gain a moderately sized lump sum and kill off a large revenue stream. The person losing on the other side is the bettor, as they are accepting very poor odds. I don't see how bet matching is related, but someone trying to arb on sportsbet.io is either stupid or taking advantage of promotions.
Mind explaining all the accusations they have had in the past? I can link you to all of them should you insist.I failed to understand the co-relation between "making decent money" and messing players up over the KYC policies. Do you honestly think a sportsbook which operates illegally should have access to the confidential information of their players? I'm not even talking abut their parent companies which are known as fraudulent operators in the bitcoin casino scene. I'm assuming you know who they are.

and  Or, if you meant sportsbet.io matching bets, they could easily match with other bettors on their platform if there's a lot of volume, or even use another book such as Pinnacle, Betfair or Fairlay to counter each bet, and still make a decent percentage. There's also sportsbook providers that pay you a % of each bet, regardless of the outcome, and they could be using one of them as well.
They could be and that's how the bookie chain works.

Throwing in random buzzwords and not explaining or elaborating doesn't make your argument any stronger.
It doesn't. I didn't care to elaborate because the poster didn't seemed like someone who'd give a logical view to it and it wouldn't matter anyway. Should you still wish to see the reference links of whatever my argument is, I don't mind posting it here.


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June 16, 2018, 10:33:05 AM
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I like your over-confidence.Which cave have you been living under? You know what you fail to understand? Common Sense.


over-confidence is a normal thing when someone actually knows what he is talking about , there is no single reason for sportsbet to scam literally zero !!
unlike 1xbit where they offer high odds , that's why I call 1xbit a scam and don't call sportsbet a scam




Because they can? Why they wouldn't? Who doesn't want more money? How can you be so sure that they're making enough money? If they're making enough money off bets, there's someone definitely losing on the other side? Bet Matching, bookie chain etc are some of the concepts what I feel you have failed to understand and your knowledge in sportsbook is weak.


would you scam a certain amount and kill your revenue stream when you have already a lot of people making bets with you ??
people profits in sportsbet aren't sportsbet loss , do you want me to give you screenshots for the odds in sportsbet and the odds that I'm able to bet on using my broker which offers betfair , pinnacle , matchbook , SBO , IBC and Bdaq ??


Shut the fuck up already if you can't bring logic to the table..Stop being their shill..

actually he is the one bringing the facts and you are failing to bring a single valid point , no one is being a shill here since he already told you that their odds suck !!
but offering low odds when the bettors are accepting these low odds isn't called scam

regarding the KYC , even 5dimes when I registered told me that there is no KYC for bitcoin users and I tested them only when 200$ and when I wanted to withdraw they asked me for my ID , should I go and call them a scam ??

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June 16, 2018, 10:50:04 AM
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over-confidence is a normal thing when someone actually knows what he is talking about , there is no single reason for sportsbet to scam literally zero !!
unlike 1xbit where they offer high odds , that's why I call 1xbit a scam and don't call sportsbet a scam
Do I look like someone who cares what you think? I care more about facts.Why don't you say the same thing to the people who have left their account and their parent companies a negative feedback? If you really believe they aren't a scam, what's holding you back from messaging the DT members and proving them wrong? I can open a thread for you calling all the DT members who left them a feedback and you can come to the rescue.

would you scam a certain amount and kill your revenue stream when you have already a lot of people making bets with you ??
people profits in sportsbet aren't sportsbet loss , do you want me to give you screenshots for the odds in sportsbet and the odds that I'm able to bet on using my broker which offers betfair , pinnacle , matchbook , SBO , IBC and Bdaq ??
Your logic : They are not a scam because the offer high odds than everybody else. Sounds very logical.

actually he is the one bringing the facts and you are failing to bring a single valid point , no one is being a shill here since he already told you that their odds suck !!
but offering low odds when the bettors are accepting these low odds isn't called scam
Quote a line of him which stands as a Fact.

regarding the KYC , even 5dimes when I registered told me that there is no KYC for bitcoin users and I tested them only when 200$ and when I wanted to withdraw they asked me for my ID , should I go and call them a scam ??
That's none of my business what your relation is with the other sites.That's way off here.


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Do I look like someone who cares what you think? I care more about facts.Why don't you say the same thing to the people who have left their account and their parent companies a negative feedback? If you really believe they aren't a scam, what's holding you back from messaging the DT members and proving them wrong? I can open a thread for you calling all the DT members who left them a feedback and you can come to the rescue.

Do I look like I really care what you think or how the trust system here works ?? remember there are people with green trust that they have in their green trust something like ( sold me 0.1 bitcoin transaction is smooth ) while sites like nitrogen have negative red trust
I don't even play in sportsbet btw unless they offer price boosts or extra value , so I don't even care about that site but calling it scam without even understanding how their system works is completely BS



Your logic : They are not a scam because the offer high odds than everybody else. Sounds very logical.


yes that's the only logical way to think , I'm talking you business here not the BS argument that you are bringing
I guess Darkstar made it so clear , do you think he is an idiot as well ?? ( since you care too much about DT surprisingly you are only attacking me and Jereme even Darkstar saying the same what we are saying )



Quote a line of him which stands as a Fact.

He told you how their system works and how they are making money without even taking a risk , that's the only true fact I'm seeing in this thread


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June 16, 2018, 11:14:24 AM
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Do I look like I really care what you think or how the trust system here works ?? remember there are people with green trust that they have in their green trust something like ( sold me 0.1 bitcoin transaction is smooth ) while sites like nitrogen have negative red trust
I don't even play in sportsbet btw unless they offer price boosts or extra value , so I don't even care about that site but calling it scam without even understanding how their system works is completely BS
"How their system works" and "they're a scam" are two different things. You literally have no counter arguments which actually make any sense. I continued to post here since Darkstar knows what he was talking about unlike you.I'm out.

yes that's the only logical way to think
Not a very big fan of people who lack basic abilities to think.I'm sorry, you're way too intelligent for me.

I guess Darkstar made it so clear , do you think he is an idiot as well ??
He didn't make anything clear.He had his own points.Why are you being a spokesperson for everyone I have quoted? lol

He told you how their system works and how they are making money without even taking a risk , that's the only true fact I'm seeing in this thread
Very Good.I'm convinced they're not a scam. Smiley


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"How their system works" and "they're a scam" are two different things. You literally have no counter arguments which actually make any sense. I continued to post here since Darkstar knows what he was talking about unlike you.I'm out.

yeah Darkstar knows what he talking about even he is saying the exact same thing what I and Jereme are saying , but we are idiots  Cheesy Cheesy
lol show me one single line that Darkstar said something different of what I'm saying , but yeah he knows what he is talking about since he is DT hahaha

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June 16, 2018, 11:39:00 AM
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yeah Darkstar knows what he talking about even he is saying the exact same thing what I'm and Jereme are saying , but we are idiots  Cheesy Cheesy
No, he is not saying the same thing. Our discussion involved bet matching and bookie chain stuff. I don't see him blindly defending either.

lol show me one single line that Darkstar said something different of what I'm saying , but yeah he knows what he is talking about since he is DT hahaha
You continue to post illogical stuff. I'm surprised you are in a signature campaign which supposedly has very good posters from bitcointalk. I'm used to reading posts from pugman/LoyceV/jackG which are comparatively way better than yours.But that's none of my business. I didn't even knew he is on a DT until now.


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