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January 18, 2020, 02:16:47 PM
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** Changed the info for CoinExchange. Now that CoinExchange has shut down its activities, I feel more at liberty to say it's a good thing. They had a constant disrespect for their own Terms & Conditions. Listing and delisting "ad libitum". Not respecting their own delisting delays etc. If you protested you were laughed at or even banned. The chat mods made their own shitcoin and sold it on CoinExchange etc. I'm quite surprised they didn't get more negative reactions, but there's a lot of indifference and shoulder-shrugging going on in the world of crypto...

If crypto needs to grow up and become more mature, we have to get these crappy exchanges out for good.

** Further on, still no extra info about Nauticus. Meanwhile, their site's not working any longer. There's no updates on Telegram or Twitter whatsoever. Just another case of indifference, I'd say. These people have their activities registered officially in Australia, so what the h*ll is keeping their customers from failing official claims? Huh It's really beyond my understanding...

** Lastly, more recent info and news from Cryptopia's liquidators is to be found right here. The most recent report has been published a few weeks ago. At this point, things are looking quite good actually. If you didn't file a claim yet, DON'T FORGET TO DO SO!

The report is quite transparent but should anyone wish to receive any more information about it, in a more "humanized" language, feel free to let me know. If so, I think it might be better to open a separate Cryptopia-devoted thread for that (should one not exist already).
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January 18, 2020, 11:25:33 PM
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** Changed the info for CoinExchange. Now that CoinExchange has shut down its activities, I feel more at liberty to say it's a good thing. They had a constant disrespect for their own Terms & Conditions. Listing and delisting "ad libitum". Not respecting their own delisting delays etc. If you protested you were laughed at or even banned. The chat mods made their own shitcoin and sold it on CoinExchange etc. I'm quite surprised they didn't get more negative reactions, but there's a lot of indifference and shoulder-shrugging going on in the world of crypto...

If crypto needs to grow up and become more mature, we have to get these crappy exchanges out for good.

** Further on, still no extra info about Nauticus. Meanwhile, their site's not working any longer. There's no updates on Telegram or Twitter whatsoever. Just another case of indifference, I'd say. These people have their activities registered officially in Australia, so what the h*ll is keeping their customers from failing official claims? Huh It's really beyond my understanding...

** Lastly, more recent info and news from Cryptopia's liquidators is to be found right here. The most recent report has been published a few weeks ago. At this point, things are looking quite good actually. If you didn't file a claim yet, DON'T FORGET TO DO SO!

The report is quite transparent but should anyone wish to receive any more information about it, in a more "humanized" language, feel free to let me know. If so, I think it might be better to open a separate Cryptopia-devoted thread for that (should one not exist already).

Crypto is much in its infancy which makes it difficult to fit in with the legislative requirements set by Governments.

It is much the "wild west" out there with a lot of unethical behavior happening like inflated market caps, pump and dump schemes and insider trading.

Unfortunately it means that in order to survive exchanges are often located in dubious jurisdictions through dubious corporate structures and with anonymous ownership structures.

It also means that genuine failures are often seen as exit scams and genuine blocked suspicious transactions result in trolling and black PR campaigns against an exchange.

In a bear market there are a lot of exchange failures and in a bull market there are a lot of opportunist exchange scams.

It is really important that you check the actual corporate structures because when things go wrong the terms and conditions are only enforceable if you can find those that are responsible.

I strongly feel that the crypto market is still very exposed by US$ Tether / Bitfinex and there is a huge risk with the large market turnover that occurs on Binance.  I'm not saying that Binance is dodgy (their corporate ethics appear to be well intended)  - but if things go wrong it will go wrong very badly due to market reliance on that exchange. Their physical location is kept secret and their CEO is constantly on the move and holds his assets in 100% crypto.


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July 17, 2020, 10:33:42 PM
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Cryptopia's liquidators have been posting their reports regularly. Quite interesting to read every report chronologically, to see how the bankruptcy of a (hacked) crypto exchange evolves, step by step. Last report was about a month ago. All liquidators' reports are quite accessible - meaning you don't need to be a lawyer to understand the content Cool also, check this thread and join the discussion about' the NZ court's recognition of crypto as property.
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March 17, 2021, 02:12:44 PM
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friends1980, would you like to think about going back to the updates for this thread? It would be great if you add a navigation bar, eg [anchor/] and put existing and future updates in tags. In addition to all of the above, I would prefer not to see fraudulent exchanges and exchanges with zero liquidity in the new list, (and I would like to non-intrusively remind you that some exchanges have changed their Terms of Service in the last year).
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***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/11/01: SMALL UPDATE FOR COINEXCHANGE***
***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/11/01: NEW UPDATE FOR CRYPTOPIA and COINEXCHANGE***
***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/08/11: NEW UPDATE FOR NAUTICUS***
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friends1980, would you like to think about going back to the updates for this thread? It would be great if you add a navigation bar, eg [anchor/] and put existing and future updates in tags. In addition to all of the above, I would prefer not to see fraudulent exchanges and exchanges with zero liquidity in the new list, (and I would like to non-intrusively remind you that some exchanges have changed their Terms of Service in the last year).
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***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/11/01: SMALL UPDATE FOR COINEXCHANGE***
***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/11/01: NEW UPDATE FOR CRYPTOPIA and COINEXCHANGE***
***MOST RECENT UPDATE: 2019/08/11: NEW UPDATE FOR NAUTICUS***

I've not been active lately.

It'll be my pleasure, only I need to find the time, it's quite time-consuming. At least, if you want to do it correctly.

Feel free to let me know which exchanges you'd like me to check. Taking in account the issues at several exchanges in recent times, I do think that most remaining exchanges will (hopefully) have a strong legal team/legal counsels.

Keep in mind tho, that good terms & conditions are indeed no guarantee for trustful liquidity, or against bankruptcy, but I've written a lot about that subject during my time on these boards. Check out my other topics for that.

Cheers mate.
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September 14, 2023, 01:36:52 PM
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Extremely thorough & helpful OP, thanks for dropping this for the community. I think it’s every bitcoin bro’s worst nightmare isn’t it, having funds frozen or withdrawals limited. Not your keys etc etc, blah blah, we all deposit bitcoin or other crypto to exchanges & place limit sell orders during a bull run. Obviously you’re not storing your bitcoin on there per se but for a limited time some of your coins could/will be on a third party exchange to allow you to sell. Obviously it’s the same for buying in a bear market, you will have a load of fiat on there ready for limit buy orders to trigger. Just DYOR with regards to the T&C’s & never expose yourself by leaving more than 10% of your net worth on an exchange at any time.
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All of those exchanges are complete and total garbage for refusing to host any cryptocurrency with a mining algorithm that is designed to solve the most important scientific problem. Of course, you probably do not see this as a problem. That is because of your complete and total lack of education. You are probably extremely uneducated because you went to a public school and then to a university. These days universities promote violence.
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Loads of exchanges have faced several degree of operational challenges, some of which have destroyed and caused some to extinct while some have either shaped the way operations are run and have become the basis for setting up new exchanges.

Most of these exchangèrs, mostly the once that couldn't meet up and had to fold should not be blamed as they were developed when there were totally no regulatory institutions in place for the blockchain technology.
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All of those exchanges are complete and total garbage for refusing to host any cryptocurrency with a mining algorithm that is designed to solve the most important scientific problem. Of course, you probably do not see this as a problem. That is because of your complete and total lack of education. You are probably extremely uneducated because you went to a public school and then to a university. These days universities promote violence.

Thanks for pointing that out. I see things much clearer now.
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