[ANN][RIC] Riecoin: constellations POW *CPU* HARD FORK successful, world record

[ziiip]

Is every block reward 45.33333333 ric now?

This is due to the approaching superblock, which if mined, has a total of 1,389 RIC as the reward. The blocks adjacent to the superblock will have a lower reward, where the difference between the normal block reward comprises the superblock itself.

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[dga]

Is every block reward 45.33333333 ric now?

No - this is part of the algorithm that allows for high-diff blocks.  For a while after the high-diff blocks, the block reward is reduced to "pay for" the higher expense of the high-diff block.

See this message by Gatra earlier in this thread:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446703.msg18089292#msg18089292

(Edited to add:  oops, Ziiip beat me to it by 60 seconds.

[Simba84]

Interesting... Superblock solved now but it is 2 hours and 40 minutes ago..... And there are a lot of SOLO MINING blocks that report abnormalities. Many seem to be resolved 5-10 minutes before broadcasting.....

What's under  

[ziiip]

Interesting... Superblock solved now but it is 2 hours and 40 minutes ago..... And there are a lot of SOLO MINING blocks that report abnormalities. Many seem to be resolved 5-10 minutes before broadcasting.....

What's under  

Probably the solominer that uses a new address every block solved the superblock and withheld broadcast until they could work on a few more blocks. Looks like it worked itself out now though.

[Simba84]

Interesting... Superblock solved now but it is 2 hours and 40 minutes ago..... And there are a lot of SOLO MINING blocks that report abnormalities. Many seem to be resolved 5-10 minutes before broadcasting.....

What's under  

Probably the solominer that uses a new address every block solved the superblock and withheld broadcast until they could work on a few more blocks. Looks like it worked itself out now though.

What do we do? Gatra???

This coin has become a joke! Solo miners who attack the network by sending blocks when they want. But then 80% of the blocks!

I would recommend the few SERIOUS miners to quit mine Riecoin and look elsewhere.

What a crap!

[ziiip]

What do we do? Gatra???

This coin has become a joke! Solo miners who attack the network by sending blocks when they want. But then 80% of the blocks!

I would recommend the few SERIOUS miners to quit mine Riecoin and look elsewhere.

What a crap!

This coin is not a joke, the network only now has low orphans, everything works well. There is also more than one solominer Simba, this coin is doing very well given the circumstances, just look at the price. . .

[dga]

What do we do? Gatra???

This coin has become a joke! Solo miners who attack the network by sending blocks when they want. But then 80% of the blocks!

I would recommend the few SERIOUS miners to quit mine Riecoin and look elsewhere.

What a crap!

This coin is not a joke, the network only now has low orphans, everything works well. There is also more than one solominer Simba, this coin is doing very well given the circumstances, just look at the price. . .

Simba, what is it that you're trying to accomplish?  Are you attempting to drive everyone else away from your profit center?

Riecoin has one real strength:  It's got an intellectually cool proof of work, written by a developer who knows enough about the math involved to justify it.  (Enough that I'm reading freaking bitcointalk when I should be trying to get my semester finished up.)  It's not flashy, it's not making bogus promises to overthrow bitcoin (yet), it's just got something that's cool in a geeky kind of way that makes it a very worthwhile experiment in cryptocurrencies with a financially-useless-but-interesting PoW function.

I'd encourage you and everyone else involved in the coin to enjoy its geeky awesomeness, not try to tear it down.  It's finding big 6-tuples.  They'll hopefully get bigger over time.  The code that gets produced is worthwhile on its own -- someone modified my miner code to find a world-record 6-tuple a while back.  That's awesome, and more fun than producing code that iterates SHA-2 very, very quickly.  (yawn).

And ziiip's right - look at the orphans chart:  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ric/orphans.dws

Solid orphan performance with a fast block time, and this despite someone continually DDoS'ing the network.

And yes, there are a lot of solo miners, but (depending on whether you think RFqKLWLtx..., R9KQKgP1, are one miner or several) there are at least two different people, or groups of them -- the ones that mine to a single address, the ones that mine to a different address, and then the pools.

If we could get a bit of that hashrate spread slightly more over the smaller pools, this would be a really nicely distributed hashrate.  It's a bit more centralized than bitcoin (https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days), but it's nothing like the ypool days that you like to reference.

(And, let's be honest:  I doubt anyone investing in Riecoin is doing so because of the current or previous state of the network.  I wouldn't.  The cool things are the PoW, Gatra, and that it's a long-running coin with several pools, exchanges, and a solid blockchain explorer.)

[BigWait]

anyone know when polo can fix they RieCoin wallet?
is that wallet broken
and Rie Twitter is : https://twitter.com/riecoin ?
since after 2014 no any new twitter?

[ziiip]

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[Simba84]

What do we do? Gatra???

This coin has become a joke! Solo miners who attack the network by sending blocks when they want. But then 80% of the blocks!

I would recommend the few SERIOUS miners to quit mine Riecoin and look elsewhere.

What a crap!

This coin is not a joke, the network only now has low orphans, everything works well. There is also more than one solominer Simba, this coin is doing very well given the circumstances, just look at the price. . .

Simba, what is it that you're trying to accomplish?  Are you attempting to drive everyone else away from your profit center?

Riecoin has one real strength:  It's got an intellectually cool proof of work, written by a developer who knows enough about the math involved to justify it.  (Enough that I'm reading freaking bitcointalk when I should be trying to get my semester finished up.)  It's not flashy, it's not making bogus promises to overthrow bitcoin (yet), it's just got something that's cool in a geeky kind of way that makes it a very worthwhile experiment in cryptocurrencies with a financially-useless-but-interesting PoW function.

I'd encourage you and everyone else involved in the coin to enjoy its geeky awesomeness, not try to tear it down.  It's finding big 6-tuples.  They'll hopefully get bigger over time.  The code that gets produced is worthwhile on its own -- someone modified my miner code to find a world-record 6-tuple a while back.  That's awesome, and more fun than producing code that iterates SHA-2 very, very quickly.  (yawn).

And ziiip's right - look at the orphans chart:  https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ric/orphans.dws

Solid orphan performance with a fast block time, and this despite someone continually DDoS'ing the network.

And yes, there are a lot of solo miners, but (depending on whether you think RFqKLWLtx..., R9KQKgP1, are one miner or several) there are at least two different people, or groups of them -- the ones that mine to a single address, the ones that mine to a different address, and then the pools.

If we could get a bit of that hashrate spread slightly more over the smaller pools, this would be a really nicely distributed hashrate.  It's a bit more centralized than bitcoin (https://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days), but it's nothing like the ypool days that you like to reference.

(And, let's be honest:  I doubt anyone investing in Riecoin is doing so because of the current or previous state of the network.  I wouldn't.  The cool things are the PoW, Gatra, and that it's a long-running coin with several pools, exchanges, and a solid blockchain explorer.)

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

[ziiip]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

[fairglu]

Just noticed, block 664848 made it to the top 10 "Hall of Fame" https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ric/halloffame.dws

Ok, it's at #8 rank, but that's the first time since august 2016

[one4many]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

+1 here .... the more distributed the hash rate is the better and stable is the coin. Centralized mining in one pool destabilizes (every) coin tremendously. I personally don't care about 0 % pool fee's. Pools are unfair to miners which big hashrates, so I would always advise against using a pool unless a miner can not mine a single block within 1 or 2 months by itself. And there is the risk that the pool closes down (voluntarily or involuntarily) and the RICs in the miners account waiting for payout are gone/frozen. Let me remind you of the last big pool which had almost all the RICs network concentrated in one place. When they went offline, not only was a lot of money gone (frozen in their accounts) but also the difficulty sky high and it took days to get it down to normal in order do any transaction on the network. If this happens again RICs is going to be kicked out from the last few exchanges.

[chrysophylax]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

+1 here .... the more distributed the hash rate is the better and stable is the coin. Centralized mining in one pool destabilizes (every) coin tremendously. I personally don't care about 0 % pool fee's. Pools are unfair to miners which big hashrates, so I would always advise against using a pool unless a miner can not mine a single block within 1 or 2 months by itself. And there is the risk that the pool closes down (voluntarily or involuntarily) and the RICs in the miners account waiting for payout are gone/frozen. Let me remind you of the last big pool which had almost all the RICs network concentrated in one place. When they went offline, not only was a lot of money gone (frozen in their accounts) but also the difficulty sky high and it took days to get it down to normal in order do any transaction on the network. If this happens again RICs is going to be kicked out from the last few exchanges.

do we have a list of exchanges? ...

seems the op is a little outdated - or the some of the links are broken ...

#crysx

[dga]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

+1 here .... the more distributed the hash rate is the better and stable is the coin. Centralized mining in one pool destabilizes (every) coin tremendously. I personally don't care about 0 % pool fee's. Pools are unfair to miners which big hashrates, so I would always advise against using a pool unless a miner can not mine a single block within 1 or 2 months by itself. And there is the risk that the pool closes down (voluntarily or involuntarily) and the RICs in the miners account waiting for payout are gone/frozen. Let me remind you of the last big pool which had almost all the RICs network concentrated in one place. When they went offline, not only was a lot of money gone (frozen in their accounts) but also the difficulty sky high and it took days to get it down to normal in order do any transaction on the network. If this happens again RICs is going to be kicked out from the last few exchanges.

do we have a list of exchanges? ...

seems the op is a little outdated - or the some of the links are broken ...

#crysx

Took a bit to figure out the answer because of the experiment below.

The primary two are Poloniex and BTC38.

But someone mentioned a few posts back that Poloniex seems to be broken right now.  I just checked and they have a note on the wallet that says RIC is "Temporarily Disabled."  I've filed a ticket with them (and others probably should too).

(If anyone from Polo is reading this and you need help with the wallet, please feel free to reach out to this thread!)

Also verified that BTC38 *is* working.  But because they're China-based, they have a hold on BTC withdrawals.  If you want to buy or sell RIC there, you need to pick another alt-coin to use as an intermediary.  I just tried sending some BTS there (it confirms really fast), selling it for CNY, buying RIC, withdrawing the RIC to my wallet, sending the RIC back to BTC38, and selling the RIC back to BTS, withdrawing the BTS back to Bittrex, and selling it there.  That all worked.

[chrysophylax]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

+1 here .... the more distributed the hash rate is the better and stable is the coin. Centralized mining in one pool destabilizes (every) coin tremendously. I personally don't care about 0 % pool fee's. Pools are unfair to miners which big hashrates, so I would always advise against using a pool unless a miner can not mine a single block within 1 or 2 months by itself. And there is the risk that the pool closes down (voluntarily or involuntarily) and the RICs in the miners account waiting for payout are gone/frozen. Let me remind you of the last big pool which had almost all the RICs network concentrated in one place. When they went offline, not only was a lot of money gone (frozen in their accounts) but also the difficulty sky high and it took days to get it down to normal in order do any transaction on the network. If this happens again RICs is going to be kicked out from the last few exchanges.

do we have a list of exchanges? ...

seems the op is a little outdated - or the some of the links are broken ...

#crysx

Took a bit to figure out the answer because of the experiment below.

The primary two are Poloniex and BTC38.

But someone mentioned a few posts back that Poloniex seems to be broken right now.  I just checked and they have a note on the wallet that says RIC is "Temporarily Disabled."  I've filed a ticket with them (and others probably should too).

(If anyone from Polo is reading this and you need help with the wallet, please feel free to reach out to this thread!)

Also verified that BTC38 *is* working.  But because they're China-based, they have a hold on BTC withdrawals.  If you want to buy or sell RIC there, you need to pick another alt-coin to use as an intermediary.  I just tried sending some BTS there (it confirms really fast), selling it for CNY, buying RIC, withdrawing the RIC to my wallet, sending the RIC back to BTC38, and selling the RIC back to BTS, withdrawing the BTS back to Bittrex, and selling it there.  That all worked.

ok - so now you have confused me - ill try again ...

hehehe ... just kidding ...

tanx for that mate ...

so the one exchange that actually CAN allow btc exchanging - doesnt have a working wallet ... and the one that has a working wallet - wont allow btc out ...

how long does poloniex take to fix issues? ... are they anything like yobit - 25days to forever? ...

#crysx

[one4many]

The miners are not interested in finding the most important sextuplet, even having the decentralization you say (part developers .... maybe?) Instead interest the coins ... We, for now, have 0% pool and transaction fee So we do not earn anything! In fact it's just a cost.

It remains the fact that BLOCKS ARE BROADCASTED IN RETURN by SOLO MINERS !!! If this helps the coin then you are crazy!!!!!!!

It seems the lower the orphan rate, the more you complain .

Every coin will have some miners withholding broadcast of blocks, this is why good hashrate distribution is so important, to prevent selfish mining.

All of the Riecoin pools are 0% fee currently, if your users aren't donating enough for your liking then add a fee to your pool and stop complaining.

uBlock.it is interested in the scientific function of Riecoin, and is looking forward to more world records  

+1 here .... the more distributed the hash rate is the better and stable is the coin. Centralized mining in one pool destabilizes (every) coin tremendously. I personally don't care about 0 % pool fee's. Pools are unfair to miners which big hashrates, so I would always advise against using a pool unless a miner can not mine a single block within 1 or 2 months by itself. And there is the risk that the pool closes down (voluntarily or involuntarily) and the RICs in the miners account waiting for payout are gone/frozen. Let me remind you of the last big pool which had almost all the RICs network concentrated in one place. When they went offline, not only was a lot of money gone (frozen in their accounts) but also the difficulty sky high and it took days to get it down to normal in order do any transaction on the network. If this happens again RICs is going to be kicked out from the last few exchanges.

do we have a list of exchanges? ...

seems the op is a little outdated - or the some of the links are broken ...

#crysx

Took a bit to figure out the answer because of the experiment below.

The primary two are Poloniex and BTC38.

But someone mentioned a few posts back that Poloniex seems to be broken right now.  I just checked and they have a note on the wallet that says RIC is "Temporarily Disabled."  I've filed a ticket with them (and others probably should too).

(If anyone from Polo is reading this and you need help with the wallet, please feel free to reach out to this thread!)

Also verified that BTC38 *is* working.  But because they're China-based, they have a hold on BTC withdrawals.  If you want to buy or sell RIC there, you need to pick another alt-coin to use as an intermediary.  I just tried sending some BTS there (it confirms really fast), selling it for CNY, buying RIC, withdrawing the RIC to my wallet, sending the RIC back to BTC38, and selling the RIC back to BTS, withdrawing the BTS back to Bittrex, and selling it there.  That all worked.

My theory is:
Poloniex suspended the wallet because their node got constantly ddos'ed. They try from time to time to bring it back online, but it does not sync, because of all those fake shadow nodes in the network. They will eventually delist the coin then.

My node got ddos attacks as well (offline now .. can't be bothered to bring it back online ... it had a constant connection to polo and btc38 ... which was good for my own mining (not doing that anymore either)). It was pretty stable for more than 2 years until the attacker started to destabilize the network and the one pool with the biggest hash power started to disconnect itself from the network for longer periods of time (for whatever reason ... my best guess ... dDos ... my worst guess ... selfish mining).

Things we can do:
- Poloniex will only talk to the main dev of the coin to take any advice on how to get the wallet back on track. So Gatra please do so!
- A more decentralized mining operation is needed ... 4 pools and a lot of solo miners ...
- Optional: Start tracking the attacks back to the source ... and kick his/her ass.

   one4many

[ziiip]

My theory is:
Poloniex suspended the wallet because their node got constantly ddos'ed. They try from time to time to bring it back online, but it does not sync, because of all those fake shadow nodes in the network. They will eventually delist the coin then.

My node got ddos attacks as well (offline now .. can't be bothered to bring it back online ... it had a constant connection to polo and btc38 ... which was good for my own mining (not doing that anymore either)). It was pretty stable for more than 2 years until the attacker started to destabilize the network and the one pool with the biggest hash power started to disconnect itself from the network for longer periods of time (for whatever reason ... my best guess ... dDos ... my worst guess ... selfish mining).

Things we can do:
- Poloniex will only talk to the main dev of the coin to take any advice on how to get the wallet back on track. So Gatra please do so!
- A more decentralized mining operation is needed ... 4 pools and a lot of solo miners ...
- Optional: Start tracking the attacks back to the source ... and kick his/her ass.

   one4many

I wouldn't expect Poloniex to have their wallet listening for incoming connections. My personal wallet maintains connections only to trusted nodes via connect= parameters and has no issues. It also helps to reduce MilliSleep in net.cpp prior to compile to ensure that if the nodes you have chosen get kicked offline, they are reconnected very quickly
Example:

@@ -1425,7 +1425,7 @@
             OpenNetworkConnection(CAddress(vserv[i % vserv.size()]), &grant);
             MilliSleep(500);
         }
-        MilliSleep(120000); // Retry every 2 minutes
+        MilliSleep(5000); // Retry every 5 seconds
     }
https://github.com/riecoin/riecoin/blob/0.10.2/src/net.cpp#L1425

[Ayers]

there is perhaps a gpu miner for this? i see a gpupool on the first post, but i think it's something else? or this is still under cpu only, not that i believe it lol, i guess someone is private mining with gpu already

[dga]

there is perhaps a gpu miner for this? i see a gpupool on the first post, but i think it's something else? or this is still under cpu only, not that i believe it lol, i guess someone is private mining with gpu already

gpupool offers only CPU mining for RIC.  I don't claim to understand the naming.

As with all "CPU-only" coins, someone(s) is either botnet mining, or GPU mining, but it's very hard to say which.  Because of the DDoS situation, I'd be willing to bet that there's a botnet involved somewhere, though.