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July 05, 2018, 03:41:11 PM
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In gambling there are only two faces to choose its either win or loose but in leverage or marginal trading aside from when or loose there is another thing called control and this is the strategies for trading applied in gambling you put your money on which side you are betting and you can't take control of that when the betting was placed unlike leverage trading you can take control of your money and when to decide for the right time to trade.
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July 12, 2018, 07:24:47 AM
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In gambling there are only two faces to choose its either win or loose but in leverage or marginal trading aside from when or loose there is another thing called control and this is the strategies for trading applied in gambling you put your money on which side you are betting and you can't take control of that when the betting was placed unlike leverage trading you can take control of your money and when to decide for the right time to trade.
Don’t waste your powers here. Rather if you want to make good strategies and you want it to get fruits for you, best option is trading or investing.

But not gambling, not in any case. The reason behind this statement is, gambling is harmful and you can lose all what you have got right now. This is natural that human is greed to money so this greediness get over heated when you are in gambling.
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July 17, 2018, 08:58:04 AM
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Gambling is basically either you will win or lose. In trading there is winning a bit, there is winning a lot,
there is losing a bit, there is losing a lot. I mean the chances are if you know how to trade than you will make good returns depending on your knowledge of the market. I feel like they are not even comparable. One is a job, the other is gambling. Trading is income of many people in our world (the crypto world) and they make a living of it, sometimes they win and sometimes they lose but if you are a good enough trader you end up on profit. Gambling is not a way to make a living.

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July 17, 2018, 09:19:59 AM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.

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July 17, 2018, 09:56:05 AM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.
From that point of view the advantage is you can have some basis if you do know how to assess and read some graphs there's some trace that will guide you to assess well before placing your investment, speculations and historical patterned can give good opinions unlike gambling where its base more on luck.
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July 17, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
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Gambling is basically either you will win or lose. In trading there is winning a bit, there is winning a lot,
there is losing a bit, there is losing a lot. I mean the chances are if you know how to trade than you will make good returns depending on your knowledge of the market. I feel like they are not even comparable. One is a job, the other is gambling. Trading is income of many people in our world (the crypto world) and they make a living of it, sometimes they win and sometimes they lose but if you are a good enough trader you end up on profit. Gambling is not a way to make a living.
Yeah win or lose is the main character of gambling specially for the people who need quick lucky profits. But if you're going to differentiate it with trading activities, which seemingly having comparisons with gambling due to risk involved. However you may lose all your bets in gambling, unlike with trading coins with lower value. You might be losing it but not totally wasting it, because minimal percentage will be loss if a coin will be sold earlier.
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July 17, 2018, 04:18:06 PM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.
It's better to gamble than leverage trading, the market might just shift any moment the chance of going up and down isn't close to 50% also. People have lost many funds in leverage trading, it's always better to practice first so you know what you are doing
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July 19, 2018, 07:13:25 AM
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In gambling there are only two faces to choose its either win or loose but in leverage or marginal trading aside from when or loose there is another thing called control and this is the strategies for trading applied in gambling you put your money on which side you are betting and you can't take control of that when the betting was placed unlike leverage trading you can take control of your money and when to decide for the right time to trade.
Don’t waste your powers here. Rather if you want to make good strategies and you want it to get fruits for you, best option is trading or investing.

But not gambling, not in any case. The reason behind this statement is, gambling is harmful and you can lose all what you have got right now. This is natural that human is greed to money so this greediness get over heated when you are in gambling.
There is no comparison between trading and gambling. Trading is a well reputed and profitable business while gambling is the way of losing money and respect as well. How can you compare gambling loss and trading loss? A gambler loses almost everything if he continues gambling but in trading a trader may earn a lot of money when he gets a chance.

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July 19, 2018, 04:02:06 PM
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I don't they are any different... They are both gambling in someway, even though professionals use indicators and analysis, most of them are just gambling away their money, the thrill of seeing your money go exponentially up is very exhilarating, I think it is why most of them lose so much, since they engage in trading without discipline or proper training. 
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July 19, 2018, 04:18:35 PM
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Every gambling activity have their own risk so you need to be wise to choose that fit based on your need.
Personally, I'm never do any leveraged trading because for me , it's quite risky

I don't they are any different... They are both gambling in someway, even though professionals use indicators and analysis, most of them are just gambling away their money, the thrill of seeing your money go exponentially up is very exhilarating, I think it is why most of them lose so much, since they engage in trading without discipline or proper training. 

Especially gambling on crypto make far more risky !
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July 25, 2018, 06:11:58 AM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.
It's better to gamble than leverage trading, the market might just shift any moment the chance of going up and down isn't close to 50% also. People have lost many funds in leverage trading, it's always better to practice first so you know what you are doing
When you are before many options and you have to make choice that what to do with all of this, then best is to opt for that choice that have least risk factor. There is always risk factor and loss so you can’t just get escape from it. Don’t try to be fool and don’t fool others as well. You can never make anything better in this gambling. No one ever have made so how can you come to this.
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July 25, 2018, 10:56:20 AM
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I don't they are any different... They are both gambling in someway, even though professionals use indicators and analysis, most of them are just gambling away their money, the thrill of seeing your money go exponentially up is very exhilarating, I think it is why most of them lose so much, since they engage in trading without discipline or proper training. 
Well although leveraging wouldn’t be a profitable scenario but still it is much better than this gambling. There is basic difference between trading and gambling and that is luck. You are totally dependent on your luck in gambling but you can utilize your skills that can make your results good. Don’t worry about trading, it definitely would be helping you in a better way.
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July 25, 2018, 11:05:31 AM
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Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything.
Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.
Well, you can actually win a lot on usual cryptocurrency trading if you have big funds of your own. If you borrow money to invest it into something - it is very risky, because you can end up not only losing everything, but owing in addition to that. I wouldn't suggest to do that no matter what happens, just like gambling should be done with funds one is okay with losing.
How did you manage to lose everything, though, if cryptos never go 'busted' like during stock market simulation games. If you lost a big amount, but the coin is actually good, then you should keep holding it anyway. This is a major difference from gambling by the way, because if you bought a coin and the price dropped, at least you still have this coin and hope that it may rise again.

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July 26, 2018, 05:15:49 AM
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i have to disagree with you and apparently alot of users who also believe that gambling and margin trading are the same ! in gambling you most of the time have a 50% chance to win.However,in trading you can cut your losses and increase your chances as much as you can . don't enter a trade which you didn't analyze well with 100x leverage , try to be very picky when it comes to enter a trade with leverage and don't put ridiculous leverage stay with 10x and you will be fine.

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July 26, 2018, 10:40:29 AM
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I don't they are any different... They are both gambling in someway, even though professionals use indicators and analysis, most of them are just gambling away their money, the thrill of seeing your money go exponentially up is very exhilarating, I think it is why most of them lose so much, since they engage in trading without discipline or proper training. 

Well... There are differences and similarities but at the end of the day it wouldn't be logical to consider them same.
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July 27, 2018, 12:24:16 AM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.
It's better to gamble than leverage trading, the market might just shift any moment the chance of going up and down isn't close to 50% also. People have lost many funds in leverage trading, it's always better to practice first so you know what you are doing
When you are before many options and you have to make choice that what to do with all of this, then best is to opt for that choice that have least risk factor. There is always risk factor and loss so you can’t just get escape from it. Don’t try to be fool and don’t fool others as well. You can never make anything better in this gambling. No one ever have made so how can you come to this.

-Leveraged (specially heavily leveraged) trading leads to either a big profit or a big loss.
-Betting leads to either a big profit or a big loss.

How can you say that gambling has never made anybody a big profit?
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July 27, 2018, 02:46:17 AM
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Base on what others said and others are saying, leveraged trading on bitmex are very very risky but can give you very high profit if you are a professional leveraged trader. I can say that leveraged trading is somewhat like gambling because if you don't know where will it move, you will lose all your money. I think before we do leverage trading in bitmex, we must try to do testing first. There is a website for that thou I don't know what it is.
It's better to gamble than leverage trading, the market might just shift any moment the chance of going up and down isn't close to 50% also. People have lost many funds in leverage trading, it's always better to practice first so you know what you are doing
When you are before many options and you have to make choice that what to do with all of this, then best is to opt for that choice that have least risk factor. There is always risk factor and loss so you can’t just get escape from it. Don’t try to be fool and don’t fool others as well. You can never make anything better in this gambling. No one ever have made so how can you come to this.

-Leveraged (specially heavily leveraged) trading leads to either a big profit or a big loss.
-Betting leads to either a big profit or a big loss.

How can you say that gambling has never made anybody a big profit?
Your point is very valid here. Gambling in any sense can cost you a lot of money or it can also give you huge profit. It can go either ways. The main word that should be noted here is if it will be consistent or not. And we must admit that making consistent profit from gambling is very hard. It is very hard but it can be achieved by those who are responsible enough to limit themselves to bet on games that have more chances of winning.
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July 27, 2018, 09:05:30 AM
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my gambling is ended with losing my money but my leveraged trading in bitmex still continue and I don't have to close the trade because of I still in the profit mode. and from this, I think it is a different thing if we compare between gambling and leveraged trading because in gambling, we have a big chance to lose all money and in leveraged trading, we can recover our loss if we can make a good analyze. and so far, my leveraged trading still up and down and it's followed with bitcoin price Grin

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July 27, 2018, 11:30:08 AM
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Recently I tried leveraged trading for the first time at Bitmex, and ended up in a loss. It seemed similar to a gamble, where you deposit, place a bet and either win (and double) or lose everything. In leveraged trading, if you deposit & place an order and it reaches your liquidation level, you lose everything.

Gambling can't be compared to regular trading, as in regular trading, you don't win much and don't lose much either. However, if you're trading with leverage, then that trading can be considered something similar to a gamble.

This looks similar to the "binary optinos" sites where you should bet on the Euro, Gold etc should go up or down...i wouldn't try it.

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August 14, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
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i have to disagree with you and apparently alot of users who also believe that gambling and margin trading are the same ! in gambling you most of the time have a 50% chance to win.However,in trading you can cut your losses and increase your chances as much as you can . don't enter a trade which you didn't analyze well with 100x leverage , try to be very picky when it comes to enter a trade with leverage and don't put ridiculous leverage stay with 10x and you will be fine.
Yes I also agree with you that there is a big difference between gambling and trading, we cannot compare leverage trading with gambling. In trading we can minimize our lost by wait for some time, even we cannot cut all our lost by invest more in a low price.
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