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it is like creating your own coin, this is one way of ruining the market status, ICO for short, we can see today that a lot of ICO are coming out and popping out of the blue, trying to level the price gap versus bitcoin. all of these are a result of the desperation to level with the current status of its competitors, still applies the rule of economics, the law of supply and demand.

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From DIY guns to designer drugs, classic-car parts, and human livers, 3D printing promises a dynamic and uncontrollable world.

In the very near future, governments will lose the ability to keep guns, drones, and other forbidden goods out of the hands of their subjects. They'll also be rendered impotent to enforce trade and technology embargoes. Power is shifting from the state to individuals and small groups courtesy of additive manufacturing—aka 3D printing—technology.

Additive manufacturing is poised to revolutionize whole industries—destroying some jobs while creating new opportunities. That's according to a recent report from the prestigious RAND Corporation, and there's plenty of evidence to support the dynamic and "disruptive" view of the future that the report promises.

It's all pretty cool, if you look forward to a future that just won't fit under rulers' thumbs.

"The simplicity and low cost of [3D printing] machines, combined with the scope of their potential creations, could profoundly alter global and local economies and affect international security," write RAND's Trevor Johnston, Troy D. Smith, and J. Luke Irwin in "Additive Manufacturing in 2040."

To their credit, the authors see additive manufacturing not only as a "disruptive threat," but also as a "powerful enabler." They quote one industry expert who raves about the potential to "print electronics, insulators, conductors, plastic substrates all together without degradation." Likewise, a health expert tells them, "The medical field will be transformed dramatically … We will be able to print livers, or we can print pieces of arteries for heart surgery."


The authors also note that 3D printing represents a loss of control by government officials. Five years after the creation of the first 3D-printed firearm by Cody Wilson, the RAND authors see technology continuing to re-balance the power relationship between individuals and the state.

"At the domestic level, point-of-sale consumption will no longer be an opportunity for governmental control of risky goods, such as firearms and drones," they write. "State sovereignty is predicated on a monopoly of force and, at a minimum, the capacity to regulate arms. [Additive manufacturing] will further relax this control, giving private citizens greater access to lethal weapons and other tools of violence."

Not mentioned in the report, but noted in a related RAND article, is "the potential for new street drugs, custom-printed from chemicals."

Yes, this could mean—as the report foresees—more risk of crime and terrorism in the future. The authors pose scenarios in which terrorists penetrate targets unarmed and use existing 3D printers inside the defensive perimeter to create weapons.

OK. Maybe.

But criminals and terrorists are already pretty well supplied around the world, via black markets, state sponsors, and often their own manufacturing capability. Forget ISIS—it's the shopkeepers afraid of crime and denied the means of self-defense, or the deliberately disarmed and abused minority suffering under a hostile government, who are most likely to find the acquisition of arms easier courtesy of new technology.

Additive manufacturing also eases the availability of spare parts—especially in isolated settings and for old or unusual equipment. That's why the United States Marine Corps has embraced the technology for fabricating replacements in the field, and fanciers of classic cars see 3D printing as a great alternative to hunting for rare parts and paying through the nose for the privilege.

"When a product fails and certain replacement parts are unavailable or scarce, 3D printing offers a means for a quick and efficient repair," noted a paper presented at the 2015 Product Lifetime and the Environment Conference.

And the innovations that keep weapons functioning in the field and vintage cars cruising the roads will just as easily benefit an airline forbidden to make purchases on the world market. Subject to international sanctions, Iran's domestic airline "had become infamous for its crashes as the aging fleet struggled to fly using only 'smuggled or improvised parts,'" notes the RAND report. But the company is gaining the ability to make what it needs.

This "might reduce the number of accidents," sniffs the RAND report, yet "that benefit comes at the cost of weakening the effectiveness of sanctions, which represent a basic tool for managing geopolitical challenges." But many observers might think that it's a positive development when end users can create critical replacement parts on the fly, even if it deprives squabbling politicians of the ability to hold airline passengers as hostages.

A technology that can fabricate replacement parts at the point of use can create a lot more, too. Johnston, Smith, and Irwin cite estimates that 10 years from now, additive manufacturing will be responsible for between 5 and 50 percent of goods sold, and up to 90 percent two decades out.

That scale of industrial transformation is likely to mean big changes in where and when goods are produced—potentially creating (the authors say) new dangers. They open the paper with a hypothetical attack by terrorists radicalized by high unemployment in their country because "factories that once assembled more-specialized goods have been replaced by local [3D] printers in the markets to which those goods were once exported." But that's only looking at what's lost—considering the horse-drawn carriage makers, to use an old example, without also acknowledging the automobile manufacturing jobs that came to replace them.

Later in the paper, the authors concede that "business opportunities that do not even exist yet, such as the production of human organs, could emerge" as additive manufacturing progresses," and "thus, products and perhaps whole industries could move to different locations in the figure even as the frontier itself advances."

Well, yes. Dynamic change can be disruptive, but it also means new opportunity and prosperity.

The authors also worry some about the potential for new hacking targets posed by 3D printers, in which software change might result in sabotaging a whole run of products. But that sort of danger pales compared to the dangers posed by cyberattacks on existing large-scale manufacturers, who would seem to represent much more tempting targets than a decentralized world of small printers.

To me, the ratio of risk to reward in additive manufacturing recommends a firm embrace of the technology. But even if it didn't—even if I were to join the control-freaky among us, panic, and try to cram the genie back in the bottle—it's too late to turn back.

Additive manufacturing "machines could soon be able to replicate themselves, with organizations such as RepRap and Fab@home providing freely available open-source schematics on how to manufacture the necessary parts," Johnston, Smith, and Irwin notes. Soon, "point-of-sale controls will not be able to limit (or even track) the proliferation of" 3D printers. And if policymakers try to control the creation and exchange of disapproved designs, "online communities, black markets, and other venues for exchange will make any number of plans and designs readily accessible worldwide."

So rolling back the DIY revolution, or somehow crippling or tracking 3D printers, is out of the question. Instead of fretting about the latest wave of empowering innovations, let's embrace them. Sure, they pose some potential dangers, as does every new development. But they also offer the opportunity for individual empowerment, growing prosperity, and wild new possibilities in a world where governments are less able to restrict, disarm, and otherwise bully their subjects. And that uncontrolled future is coming whether anybody likes it or not.

http://reason.com/archives/2018/06/12/you-can-soon-manufacture-anything

With bitcoin having potential to empower society and neglected unbanked demographics via paradigm shifting banking, finance and investment back into the hands of the individual. It might be worthwhile to acknowledge other innovations like additive manufacturing, 3d printers, which have similar potential to reshape business and economies.

Individuals being able to produce their own goods, guns, drugs, electronics could have a powerful decentralizing effect upon industries like healthcare which are often expensive and unaffordable. It is possible an alliance between crypto and DIY 3D printing could represent a natural progression for both industries.
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June 27, 2018, 03:14:10 PM
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Knowledge can be utilized for good or evil. It is dual use technology. An example of this is nuclear power which can be used to build bombs or nuclear reactors which power thousands of homes. If people are able to produce their own pharmaceutical drugs which treat illness and disease, they also will have the power to produce narcotics, barbiturates, amphetamines. This dual use paradigm exists anywhere knowledge, science and technology are to be found.

Why did you jump to drugs and farmaceuticals and not continue with the nuclear option?
What if everybody could build his own nuclear reactor in the basement.
Or even better, his own personal nuclear bomb?

To be honest I don't see the dual use in this situation. What's the good part in everybody having his Fat Man in the garage?

Some nations with the highest percentages of gun ownership also have lowest statistics for gun issues. Blaming *everything* on guns and drugs, that could represent a gross oversimplification of economic and social circumstances which lead to things like drug abuse and gun violence. There isn't necessarily a *silver bullet* one click solution to solving problems faced by humanity. Following the media narrative does more harm than good imo as the media's stance acts as a crutch which exists to prevent people from thinking about things.

Hmm...
Japan, homicide rate 0.28 , beat that!!!!!




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From DIY guns to designer drugs, classic-car parts, and human livers, 3D printing promises a dynamic and uncontrollable world.

In the very near future, governments will lose the ability to keep guns, drones, and other forbidden goods out of the hands of their subjects. They'll also be rendered impotent to enforce trade and technology embargoes. Power is shifting from the state to individuals and small groups courtesy of additive manufacturing—aka 3D printing—technology.

Additive manufacturing is poised to revolutionize whole industries—destroying some jobs while creating new opportunities. That's according to a recent report from the prestigious RAND Corporation, and there's plenty of evidence to support the dynamic and "disruptive" view of the future that the report promises.

It's all pretty cool, if you look forward to a future that just won't fit under rulers' thumbs.

"The simplicity and low cost of [3D printing] machines, combined with the scope of their potential creations, could profoundly alter global and local economies and affect international security," write RAND's Trevor Johnston, Troy D. Smith, and J. Luke Irwin in "Additive Manufacturing in 2040."

To their credit, the authors see additive manufacturing not only as a "disruptive threat," but also as a "powerful enabler." They quote one industry expert who raves about the potential to "print electronics, insulators, conductors, plastic substrates all together without degradation." Likewise, a health expert tells them, "The medical field will be transformed dramatically … We will be able to print livers, or we can print pieces of arteries for heart surgery."


The authors also note that 3D printing represents a loss of control by government officials. Five years after the creation of the first 3D-printed firearm by Cody Wilson, the RAND authors see technology continuing to re-balance the power relationship between individuals and the state.

"At the domestic level, point-of-sale consumption will no longer be an opportunity for governmental control of risky goods, such as firearms and drones," they write. "State sovereignty is predicated on a monopoly of force and, at a minimum, the capacity to regulate arms. [Additive manufacturing] will further relax this control, giving private citizens greater access to lethal weapons and other tools of violence."

Not mentioned in the report, but noted in a related RAND article, is "the potential for new street drugs, custom-printed from chemicals."

Yes, this could mean—as the report foresees—more risk of crime and terrorism in the future. The authors pose scenarios in which terrorists penetrate targets unarmed and use existing 3D printers inside the defensive perimeter to create weapons.

OK. Maybe.

But criminals and terrorists are already pretty well supplied around the world, via black markets, state sponsors, and often their own manufacturing capability. Forget ISIS—it's the shopkeepers afraid of crime and denied the means of self-defense, or the deliberately disarmed and abused minority suffering under a hostile government, who are most likely to find the acquisition of arms easier courtesy of new technology.

Additive manufacturing also eases the availability of spare parts—especially in isolated settings and for old or unusual equipment. That's why the United States Marine Corps has embraced the technology for fabricating replacements in the field, and fanciers of classic cars see 3D printing as a great alternative to hunting for rare parts and paying through the nose for the privilege.

"When a product fails and certain replacement parts are unavailable or scarce, 3D printing offers a means for a quick and efficient repair," noted a paper presented at the 2015 Product Lifetime and the Environment Conference.

And the innovations that keep weapons functioning in the field and vintage cars cruising the roads will just as easily benefit an airline forbidden to make purchases on the world market. Subject to international sanctions, Iran's domestic airline "had become infamous for its crashes as the aging fleet struggled to fly using only 'smuggled or improvised parts,'" notes the RAND report. But the company is gaining the ability to make what it needs.

This "might reduce the number of accidents," sniffs the RAND report, yet "that benefit comes at the cost of weakening the effectiveness of sanctions, which represent a basic tool for managing geopolitical challenges." But many observers might think that it's a positive development when end users can create critical replacement parts on the fly, even if it deprives squabbling politicians of the ability to hold airline passengers as hostages.

A technology that can fabricate replacement parts at the point of use can create a lot more, too. Johnston, Smith, and Irwin cite estimates that 10 years from now, additive manufacturing will be responsible for between 5 and 50 percent of goods sold, and up to 90 percent two decades out.

That scale of industrial transformation is likely to mean big changes in where and when goods are produced—potentially creating (the authors say) new dangers. They open the paper with a hypothetical attack by terrorists radicalized by high unemployment in their country because "factories that once assembled more-specialized goods have been replaced by local [3D] printers in the markets to which those goods were once exported." But that's only looking at what's lost—considering the horse-drawn carriage makers, to use an old example, without also acknowledging the automobile manufacturing jobs that came to replace them.

Later in the paper, the authors concede that "business opportunities that do not even exist yet, such as the production of human organs, could emerge" as additive manufacturing progresses," and "thus, products and perhaps whole industries could move to different locations in the figure even as the frontier itself advances."

Well, yes. Dynamic change can be disruptive, but it also means new opportunity and prosperity.

The authors also worry some about the potential for new hacking targets posed by 3D printers, in which software change might result in sabotaging a whole run of products. But that sort of danger pales compared to the dangers posed by cyberattacks on existing large-scale manufacturers, who would seem to represent much more tempting targets than a decentralized world of small printers.

To me, the ratio of risk to reward in additive manufacturing recommends a firm embrace of the technology. But even if it didn't—even if I were to join the control-freaky among us, panic, and try to cram the genie back in the bottle—it's too late to turn back.

Additive manufacturing "machines could soon be able to replicate themselves, with organizations such as RepRap and Fab@home providing freely available open-source schematics on how to manufacture the necessary parts," Johnston, Smith, and Irwin notes. Soon, "point-of-sale controls will not be able to limit (or even track) the proliferation of" 3D printers. And if policymakers try to control the creation and exchange of disapproved designs, "online communities, black markets, and other venues for exchange will make any number of plans and designs readily accessible worldwide."

So rolling back the DIY revolution, or somehow crippling or tracking 3D printers, is out of the question. Instead of fretting about the latest wave of empowering innovations, let's embrace them. Sure, they pose some potential dangers, as does every new development. But they also offer the opportunity for individual empowerment, growing prosperity, and wild new possibilities in a world where governments are less able to restrict, disarm, and otherwise bully their subjects. And that uncontrolled future is coming whether anybody likes it or not.

http://reason.com/archives/2018/06/12/you-can-soon-manufacture-anything

With bitcoin having potential to empower society and neglected unbanked demographics via paradigm shifting banking, finance and investment back into the hands of the individual. It might be worthwhile to acknowledge other innovations like additive manufacturing, 3d printers, which have similar potential to reshape business and economies.

Individuals being able to produce their own goods, guns, drugs, electronics could have a powerful decentralizing effect upon industries like healthcare which are often expensive and unaffordable. It is possible an alliance between crypto and DIY 3D printing could represent a natural progression for both industries.
Hmmm🤔 well, I think that whoever wrote that piece of $h!t has no sense at all. How can you be saying such a thing, are you encouraging people to start doing so? Tell me, are you happy to see individuals carrying guns around and cursing harms to innocent people? If the power should shift from the hands of the government to the hands of individuals, then you’re finished.

Armed robbers will always get away with crimes cause the government are no longer in charge and individuals can’t do anything. So stop saying such things, it makes no sense. Despite the fact that the government are corrupt, we still need them. All we pray for is the right government, the right person that will make things better for the people.
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I will be in support of such system if the major aim is to break the power of political institutions and centralized financial system. However, criminals are going to utilize such system to commit crimes against humanity.  I don't think that we are mature enough for us to render governments impotence .
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Why did you jump to drugs and farmaceuticals and not continue with the nuclear option?
What if everybody could build his own nuclear reactor in the basement.
Or even better, his own personal nuclear bomb?

To be honest I don't see the dual use in this situation. What's the good part in everybody having his Fat Man in the garage?

Hmm...
Japan, homicide rate 0.28 , beat that!!!!!

If people could play video games all day and afford all of life's basic necessities, would they engage in violence/crime? The goal here would be to make energy, manufacturing, living space and other elements of modern day society affordable and plentiful enough to decrease crime and poverty. If people have more spare time to enjoy life and spend time with their family that could decrease negative circumstances. If someone had access to their own miniature nuclear reactor and never had to pay electricity bills think about how their quality of life might increase.

Japan's homicide rate is heavily adjusted. There are cases where a body is found with cigarette burns and signs of torture where police will classify the cause of death as "suicide" if they feel they are unlikely to solve the case or find those responsible.

Hmmm🤔 well, I think that whoever wrote that piece of $h!t has no sense at all. How can you be saying such a thing, are you encouraging people to start doing so? Tell me, are you happy to see individuals carrying guns around and cursing harms to innocent people? If the power should shift from the hands of the government to the hands of individuals, then you’re finished.

Armed robbers will always get away with crimes cause the government are no longer in charge and individuals can’t do anything. So stop saying such things, it makes no sense. Despite the fact that the government are corrupt, we still need them. All we pray for is the right government, the right person that will make things better for the people.

I think that there is gross oversimplification as to where criminals come from. Many criminals would choose another path in life, if they had an alternative. Most do not want to spend their time pointing guns at people and robbing them. Its not very profitable, its not a good way to earn a living. The sad truth is, poor economic conditions, bad political policies and irresponsible fiscal management by the state create a lot more criminals and violence than guns do. Not because people are evil but rather because when people can't afford to life a decent life with what their job pays them, they have no alternatives but crime or extremism to support themselves.

If people are looking at the rise of crime and violence in society, it is closely linked to poor economic conditions, bad job markets. And those are linked to bad decisions made by those in power. The idea here is to empower the individual and enable them to have a decent life without relying on crime to feed themselves or their families. Most do not want to be criminals, they do not want to be violent. Often the main reason they resort to criminal life are they have no other options.

I will be in support of such system if the major aim is to break the power of political institutions and centralized financial system. However, criminals are going to utilize such system to commit crimes against humanity.  I don't think that we are mature enough for us to render governments impotence .

The idea isn't to break the power of political institutions. Its to reduce the degree to which people rely on things like corporations and governments. The more independent people are the less they rely upon corporations for jobs or governments for social programs. The implications of that paradigm shift could benefit society.
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Knowledge can be utilized for good or evil. It is dual use technology. An example of this is nuclear power which can be used to build bombs or nuclear reactors which power thousands of homes. If people are able to produce their own pharmaceutical drugs which treat illness and disease, they also will have the power to produce narcotics, barbiturates, amphetamines. This dual use paradigm exists anywhere knowledge, science and technology are to be found.

Why did you jump to drugs and farmaceuticals and not continue with the nuclear option?
What if everybody could build his own nuclear reactor in the basement.
Or even better, his own personal nuclear bomb?

To be honest I don't see the dual use in this situation. What's the good part in everybody having his Fat Man in the garage?

Some nations with the highest percentages of gun ownership also have lowest statistics for gun issues. Blaming *everything* on guns and drugs, that could represent a gross oversimplification of economic and social circumstances which lead to things like drug abuse and gun violence. There isn't necessarily a *silver bullet* one click solution to solving problems faced by humanity. Following the media narrative does more harm than good imo as the media's stance acts as a crutch which exists to prevent people from thinking about things.

Hmm...
Japan, homicide rate 0.28 , beat that!!!!!




I just do not believe in the data for such things. Can anybody tell me what index numbers do they use to calculate the data? There is not perfect index to cumulate and then calculate the data for the specific subject. The number of victims and killed in Afghanistan was far more than what they wrote in the data. The ground realities are always different and we have always been misguided by the people at the top for their own interest.
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July 02, 2018, 08:03:17 AM
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Why did you jump to drugs and farmaceuticals and not continue with the nuclear option?
What if everybody could build his own nuclear reactor in the basement.
Or even better, his own personal nuclear bomb?

To be honest I don't see the dual use in this situation. What's the good part in everybody having his Fat Man in the garage?

Hmm...
Japan, homicide rate 0.28 , beat that!!!!!
Japan's homicide rate is heavily adjusted. There are cases where a body is found with cigarette burns and signs of torture where police will classify the cause of death as "suicide" if they feel they are unlikely to solve the case or find those responsible.


Heavily adjustments alone won't bring it to 20 times below the US rate. Grin
Greece, for example, has a rate of 0.75, and I doubt Greece can be seen as a perfect heaven where everybody is happy and all necessities are fulfilled with a clap.

Besides, you seem to have quite the wrong view about how life is in Japan.

If people have more spare time to enjoy life and spend time with their family that could decrease negative circumstances.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/japan-has-some-of-the-longest-working-hours-in-the-world-its-trying-to-change.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kar%C5%8Dshi

The goal here would be to make energy, manufacturing, living space and other elements of modern day society affordable and plentiful enough to decrease crime and poverty.
Again, Japan is one of the most expensive countries in the world, even taking into account their wages, you can't really afford that much in the big cities with the average wage.











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July 02, 2018, 08:25:53 AM
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DIY 3D printing will destroy the capitalism. Grin
If I`m able to produce everything I need(food,clothes,tools,guns,ex.) there won`t be any need to buy that stuff from some merchant.This means that money will become obsolete,which means that all the cryptocurrencies will become obsolete.Perhaps the people will still want to purchase some services,but those services will be executed by robots and AI. Grin
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If you produce goods on your own, you will still buy components from other manufacturers.You will need the material electricity to produce, etc. So the money will not become obsolete and will still be relevant.

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August 09, 2018, 11:34:56 AM
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"3D printers are low-cost."

Since when?

Even if you can afford a printer, the conductive filaments/inks are super expensive. And, it takes hours to design and print even a single coffee mug. Advancements in technology will speed up the process and even automate the designing phase. In about 20 years, the purchasing power required to acquire the best 3D printer available in the market will be astronomical because fiat currency is probably going to suffer inflation like anything.

The smart dudes who have invested in cryptocurrency will have access to everything described in the article- good and bad. However, there are research centers that produce custom materials and the inks required to 3D DIY print.

If the government can form coalitions with these organizations, they can make use of anti counterfeiting technology to keep everything in control again- currency, commodities, products etc.
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August 09, 2018, 12:10:57 PM
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No, you can do whatever you wish if you are able to do it and governments cannot stop you from doing it till they know about it, so it is limited.
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With bitcoin having potential to empower society and neglected unbanked demographics via paradigm shifting banking, finance and investment back into the hands of the individual. It might be worthwhile to acknowledge other innovations like additive manufacturing, 3d printers, which have similar potential to reshape business and economies.

Individuals being able to produce their own goods, guns, drugs, electronics could have a powerful decentralizing effect upon industries like healthcare which are often expensive and unaffordable. It is possible an alliance between crypto and DIY 3D printing could represent a natural progression for both industries.
3D printing has the potential to change the whole world, I really think that it is going to have the power to decentralize the industry similar to what bitcoin is doing with banking and the power to print currency, it is very likely that we are going to see once again the artisan as a profession, this is already happening with people selling their products created with 3D printing on the web.

However, the technology is still very new, we can produce basic stuff but producing complex stuff like electronics will require a jump in the technology and producing medicines will be very difficult as well, but the risks are high as well, if we could produce medicines in our homes then it is entirely possible a person could produce poisons, gunpowder or even viruses.

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