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February 13, 2020, 11:10:51 AM
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@ all the Pep talk. The fact that people are even suggesting he's a flop just goes to show how football expectations have gone (or how much rational and logical thought has gone out the window). On one hand, I get it, anyone who throws money at a club the was City did, or the way PSG did, or the way Chelsea first showed everyone how to do it, can and should expect some form of instant success. But I still can respect Pep for what he did for modern football, whether or not you're a fan of tika taka. And maybe winning the league should be a given with money splashed, but he still managed to sweep the trophies in England, which is no mean feat however you look at it. And to get the best out of some players like Aguero and Sterling (among many others). Still respectable.

To win CL needs experience and pedigree. That's plain and simple. That's why PSG and City can't win it. They eventually will if they get enough in them. Liverpool's win? That was sheer hunger. And old DNA from ex-players who DID win it and give their collective wisdom to the current crop.

My only criticism for these clubs is their manager's inability to take off that plastic sheen. PSG have their stars but they're not all loved by the fans, even booed. Same with Chelsea at some point in their Cashley Cole days, Same with City... you have Aguero who is a City hero for THAT famous last-gasp goal but he doesn't get the same love say even Origi does at Liverpool, or even bloody Igor Biscan did 15 years ago at Anfield. How does a supremely average player become a cult hero at Anfield? That is something people like Pep need to study. Is it because his  team is plastic and smashed together with money? Is it because their fans weren't there 15 years ago? Or is it because the manager needs to tap into that side of things better?

So if there is a failure of Pep, for me, it is this. He turned City into a title winning team that wowed the world with their records and goals. But he didn't manage to imbue the City with soul or spirit.

Liverpool splashed too: VVD and Alisson, but these two took to the teams well and I know Klopp made sure of that. I know it's no accident he brought in players who eat fish and chips in Anfield shops, who cleans local mosques and generally just enjoy life in the city and soak up culture and people.

When you aren't Salah or Bobby but you go to local schools and their favourite players are still Shaqiri or Origi and you hear your name sang out on the terraces, that's something no money can buy, and only managers can help instill. We had a long period without belief too but Klopp brought it back.

Sorry for the Kloppomania there. And I still think Pep is cool and great. In his own way. But suggestions of him being a flop? Is this how bad football's become?

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February 13, 2020, 02:56:51 PM
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^  Well nobody's taking anything away from him (at least from my pov).  He's still one of the best managers out there.  But if asked:  Is this season a flop...?  Still def a yes for me.  

It could be my fault cos I expected nothing less than a competitive season vs LFC.  I mean esp. after last season...  I thought Pep and Klopp were gonna go at it again this season.

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February 13, 2020, 04:32:50 PM
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I think Pep’s got to win the CL with City to have completed his objectives. Even Mancini & Pellegrini won the PL with City. To go one better he must win the CL & they look a million miles away from that right now.

Can he do it this season?

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February 13, 2020, 04:56:05 PM
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I think Pep’s got to win the CL with City to have completed his objectives. Even Mancini & Pellegrini won the PL with City. To go one better he must win the CL & they look a million miles away from that right now.

Can he do it this season?
This season its not going to happen mean very difficult but if he stays here and able to bring some good players then may be possible in next season right now I am going for Double of Liverpool its all about nothing else is better choice.

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February 13, 2020, 05:01:23 PM
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To win CL needs experience and pedigree. That's plain and simple. That's why PSG and City can't win it. They eventually will if they get enough in them. Liverpool's win? That was sheer hunger. And old DNA from ex-players who DID win it and give their collective wisdom to the current crop.

There's a bit of luck involved as well as it's the luck of the draw as to what teams you face which can obiously make things easier or harder, though not taking away anything from anyone winning it as only great teams are going to go all the way.

I think Pep’s got to win the CL with City to have completed his objectives. Even Mancini & Pellegrini won the PL with City. To go one better he must win the CL & they look a million miles away from that right now.

Can he do it this season?

Easier said than done. Only one team can win it and they're coming up against the best from all of Europe. I just hope Pep doesn't sulk and run off to another club if they don't win anything big this year.

^  Well nobody's taking anything away from him (at least from my pov).  He's still one of the best managers out there.  But if asked:  Is this season a flop...?  Still def a yes for me.  

But then isn't every other team a flop who don't win anything? I don't think the season is a flop for a team that is second and still in three tournament. If they missed out on a CL spot and blew the cups then sure, but second place, CL qualification and likely at least one domestic cup is looking likely.

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February 14, 2020, 11:40:24 AM
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Norwich away tomorrow

Liverpool is red
Manchester is blue
We’re 22 points ahead
And there’s nothing you can do



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February 14, 2020, 02:10:53 PM
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I think Pep’s got to win the CL with City to have completed his objectives. Even Mancini & Pellegrini won the PL with City. To go one better he must win the CL & they look a million miles away from that right now.

Can he do it this season?

Can't say about winning the title but Man City can surely beat Real Madrid in upcoming fixtures. It might seems that Real Madrid have come in some super form as they are now top of the league and won 5 of their last league games. But that's not 100% true. If you see whole 90 minutes of Real games then you can easily spot that team is not at that level which could be seen on scoreboard. They have lots of trouble but since Barcelona have more troubles, Real have easily claimed top spot in the league for now.

If I compare the attacking options of both team, Manchester City is clearly ahead. RM's best hope Benzama have just scored single goal in his last 8 games. But Eden Hazard is looking fit and hopefully return in RM squad before first leg. Only his presence could bring difference to Real else I am 80% sure that Man City will win the round.

I am thinking to bet in parlays, 4 of them with 2 matches in each. It would be interesting this way. What about you?

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^  Well nobody's taking anything away from him (at least from my pov).  He's still one of the best managers out there.  But if asked:  Is this season a flop...?  Still def a yes for me.  

But then isn't every other team a flop who don't win anything? I don't think the season is a flop for a team that is second and still in three tournament. If they missed out on a CL spot and blew the cups then sure, but second place, CL qualification and likely at least one domestic cup is looking likely.

Not necessarily...  Sheffield United.  They're a success cos not only did the club reached what was expected of them, they beat expectations and could even play in Europe next season.  City might not (reach expectations, hence a 'flop').

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February 14, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
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Wolverhamton vs Leicester is today. There are some users who haven't made their picks for today's games, so here's a little BUMP, maybe now they'll this thread.

I'm expecting a draw.

Norwich away tomorrow

Liverpool is red
Manchester is blue
We’re 22 points ahead
And there’s nothing you can do

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February 14, 2020, 04:32:15 PM
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^  Yup...  It's hard not to root for them.  Smiley  If Chris Wilder could keep it up for a couple more seasons, wow...  That would be impressive.

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February 14, 2020, 07:35:23 PM
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Whoa - Man City banned from Europe 20/21 and 21/22 seasons .

Manchester City banned from European club competitions for two seasons by Uefa https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51510284
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February 14, 2020, 07:41:36 PM
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Whoa - Man City banned from Europe 20/21 and 21/22 seasons .

Manchester City banned from European club competitions for two seasons by Uefa https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51510284

Just heard about this and wrote a post with couple more links in it, this will hurt city badly but they still have right to appeal. If punishment stays like this it will set City back for a long time.

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February 14, 2020, 07:48:29 PM
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Whoa - Man City banned from Europe 20/21 and 21/22 seasons .

Manchester City banned from European club competitions for two seasons by Uefa https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51510284

Just heard about this and wrote a post with couple more links in it, this will hurt city badly but they still have right to appeal. If punishment stays like this it will set City back for a long time.

Cheers - checking it out now  Smiley
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- Pep leaves?
- Which players leave ?
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February 14, 2020, 07:55:58 PM
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Bye, bye Pep!
It’s been nice knowing you, ya bald fraud.

Cheating bastards, we all knew it any way.

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February 14, 2020, 07:59:27 PM
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Devastating news to the Man City staff and players, as well as the fans, and on Valentine's Day. Yikes!
I bet @LFC_Bitcoin is enjoying this lol

EDIT*Just saw his post.  I knew it haha

If they do loose the appeal -
- Pep leaves?

1) IMO Pep will probably leave no matter the final decision from the CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport ).

- Which players leave ?
2) Those who have ambition? Premier League is good and all but, the Champions League IS the most prestigious competition in Europe. If you're a top player not playing in the CL, might as well just go to a low-tier club or league.


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February 14, 2020, 08:17:43 PM
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Devastating news to the Man City staff and players, as well as the fans, and on Valentine's Day. Yikes!
I bet @LFC_Bitcoin is enjoying this lol

EDIT*Just saw his post.  I knew it haha

If they do loose the appeal -
- Pep leaves?

1) IMO Pep will probably leave no matter the final decision from the CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport ).

- Which players leave ?
2) Those who have ambition? Premier League is good and all but, the Champions League IS the most prestigious competition in Europe. If you're a top player not playing in the CL, might as well just go to a low-tier club or league.

Yep - I’m sure Pep will go AND some major players - Man City will have loads of cash and no Top quality players .
@LFC_Bitcoin - something tells me you’re a happy man - lol

Edit - Beer kicking in - managed to quote myself  Smiley
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February 14, 2020, 08:33:26 PM
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Pep when he sees the UEFA ban news

https://twitter.com/kayabellz/status/1228413650026799107?s=21

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February 14, 2020, 10:34:19 PM
Last edit: February 14, 2020, 10:51:01 PM by Harkorede
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How much you love seeing Man City fail cannot overestimated, Lol. Isn't it bad enough that they're getting hammered in the league, It would be rather more fun to see them get eliminated early than not being eligible to play, wouldn't it ?


I get to kick off another week with no points for Wolves vs Leicester, even if I were to go for a draw, I would have gone for nothing less than 2 goals apiece.

Did anyone else see Wolverhampton's goal which was disallowed by another controversial VAR call ? Goal or not ?

VAR should be scrapped until these clowns really know what they are doing, How the fuck can you check for a possible offside for someone who's got nothing to do with the play ?



Edit: Thanks Hilarious, I was trying to upload the screenshot.

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February 14, 2020, 10:37:32 PM
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How much you love seeing Man City fail cannot overestimated, Lol. Isn't it bad enough that they're getting hammered in the league, It would be rather more fun to see them get eliminated early than not being eligible to play, wouldn't it ?


I get to kick off another week with no points for Wolves vs Leicester, even if I were to go for a draw, I would have gone for nothing less than 2 goals apiece.

Did anyone else see Wolverhampton's goal which was disallowed by another controversial VAR call ? Goal or not ?

Yes this VAR is going to be more controversial because as they are doing its not acceptable but still we cannot do any thing just comments and reactions I am really shocked with this decsion.

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February 14, 2020, 10:46:09 PM
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Did anyone else see Wolverhampton's goal which was disallowed by another controversial VAR call ? Goal or not ?


I watched the game. Pisstake:



I'm still not entirely sure if it was offside.

Whoa - Man City banned from Europe 20/21 and 21/22 seasons .

Manchester City banned from European club competitions for two seasons by Uefa https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51510284

Just heard about this and wrote a post with couple more links in it, this will hurt city badly but they still have right to appeal. If punishment stays like this it will set City back for a long time.

They'll appeal and likely win. Punishment does seem quite harsh, but at the same time there really does need to be some ramification for breaking these sorts of rules otherwise clubs will just break them continually and eat the fines. If they don't manage to appeal successfully I wonder how this will effect the big players with no Champion's League football? A lot of them could leave.

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