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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS and REVIEWS of SPORTS BOOKS thread. Poster input appreciated.  (Read 89153 times)
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July 18, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
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It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.
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July 18, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Last edit: July 18, 2014, 11:00:05 PM by Peeps Place
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It's always good to monitor sportsbooks and make sure they are being honest.

I just think your ranking system is deceiving. Why have anonibet above nitrogen or betcoinsports? or even directbet?

It seems like your personal experience and the way you title your thread would indicate otherwise.

All books rated B- and higher are recommended. Anonibet, Nitrogen and Betcoinsports are the best books.

Directbet is just a niche book. They are a one man operation. They have been in operation long enough where improvements should have been made. All one and two men books have gone under when they didn't expand (Bit365, Bitbook, BTCStake). I thought that DirectBet would be a great book at one time but they haven't progressed. One of the bigger books should swallow them soon.

The banners that go up at peepsplace.com are put up by owner Reagan. Peepsplace.com has been open since 2003. It's not in Reagan's best interest to hurt his reputation. That's why the DirectBet banner came down. He didn't want the 1% commission any longer.

Reagan is a sports gambler. He has published a baseball handicapping book and is very good at betting derivatives. Advertisements at peepsplace.com are a minor thought to him as far as income.

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July 18, 2014, 11:51:21 PM
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Directbet is just a niche book. They are a one man operation. They have been in operation long enough where improvements should have been made. All one and two men books have gone under when they didn't expand (Bit365, Bitbook, BTCStake). I thought that DirectBet would be a great book at one time but they haven't progressed. One of the bigger books should swallow them soon.

For the record, DirectBet is not a one man operation. Peeps is spreading false information here because he is getting paid by our competitors to do so.

Peeps, how do you know that Anonibet, your top rated Bitcoin sportsbook and the only one you rated A, is not a one man shop ?

Did you meet them in person to verify that ? Or perhaps you are one of them ?

And what do you mean by "expanding" ? Anonibet, your one and only A rated Bitcoin sportsbook, recently had a sports betting contest with 22 BTC prize pool. They exist since 2011 yet only 6 players participated in their contest, some of which are accused of being Anonibet employees.

Is that what you call "expanding" ? Is that sort of expansion needed to get an A rating from you ?

Lets face it Peeps, this is not a true ratings guide, it's a disguised paid advertisement for Anonibet, and the more you blindly defend them, the more it is clear what we have been claiming for months - you work for Anonibet !

The banners that go up at peepsplace.com are put up by owner Reagan. Peepsplace.com has been open since 2003. It's not in Reagan's best interest to hurt his reputation. That's why the DirectBet banner came down. He didn't want the 1% commission any longer.

For the record, Peeps Place never earned any referral commission from DirectBet. We never paid him a dime !

Peeps - show us a proof that we ever paid you a dime.


Several months ago Peeps contacted the top Bitcoin sports betting sites and invited them to advertise on his website, http://www.peepsplace.com

The advertisement deal specifically included promoting the books in forums.

Peeps wanted a fixed price for the deal :



We declined the offer, but Peeps kept nudging several times :



We still refused to take the offer, but apparently others did take it.


Books- Don't think DirectBet was offered a discount. It was BTC + 1%  Grin


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July 19, 2014, 01:06:57 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2014, 06:41:27 PM by Peeps Place
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DirectBet, Then you are a two man operation. You have never denied this in the past. Why now?

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July 19, 2014, 02:16:17 AM
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Directbet - I think it is very apparent to anyone monitoring this thread whose allegiance Peeps Place reviews correspond to.

Any real people placing bets would know to take these reviews and ratings with a grain of salt.

There is obvious bias here
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July 19, 2014, 03:09:43 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 03:20:51 AM by Peeps Place
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No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

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July 19, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
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No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

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July 19, 2014, 03:25:52 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 03:53:40 AM by Gogo ppp
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Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins. Something to consider, I don't understand what some of these books are thinking when they put out these lines. It's pretty much all of them too including anonibet, I can pretty much find a better line elsewhere almost all the time. Nitrogen offers better lines than most btc books but I can still almost always get better prices elsewhere. Do u know how much this adds upto over time.
Oh I also don't see it in the threads here but last week 5dimes SBR rated A+ added btc as a deposit option, only deposits as of now too test it out but they plan on adding withdraws once it pans out! I also read if it really works out they might even add to btc and not the switch to usd.
Also I hope all the BTC books are reading this because if u decide not to give use better deals then what do what do u think will happen? Your not the only book out there like u think and if 5dimes adds btc then I would never even place a bet with u unless u had a better line. So now is the time to reconsider your lines bad business plan or u will be out of business within a year.

"Hey Peeps I have been looking through every BTC books lines and comparing them to pretty much other books around and honestly at least 90% of the btc books at least 90% of the time for baseball have worse lines by pretty high margins."

True. I posted about this a few times several months ago when I was betting MLB overnites.

Of the top books on Peeps list ("A" and "B" and maybe also "C") I checked their overnite MLB lines vs. fiat books lines for a few weeks.
Two of the top books don't even have MLB overnite lines.
Of the others, I think 2 times casinobitco had a line that matched the best line I could get at fiat books.
I think another book, maybe nitrogen, had a similar record.

But 99% of the time the best line was at the fiat books.
And most of the top books on Peeps list were not close.

(The above is re: MLB overnight moneylines).



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July 19, 2014, 03:31:12 AM
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Anonibet, Nitrogen and Betcoinsports were all given ratings. After the ratings came out they were asked to advertise. Books do not get rating hikes after payment.

I will always recommend to Reagan that he puts up banners of the top books since I do more research. He then does his own research and puts up banners as he sees fit.

No one is going to agree with all the ratings and the easy target is to say we are on the take. Those familiar with Reagan and peepsplace know that these allegations are baseless and we go back to 2003.




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July 19, 2014, 03:49:45 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 04:03:13 AM by Peeps Place
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No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations. DirectBet was very low in Ryan's ratings until DirectBet sent in a team of shills that all rated 5 out of 5 to boost DirectBet's ratings.





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July 19, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
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No one is going to agree with the ratings. They are just a guide. The ratings go up and then the top books are asked to advertise at peepsplace.com where we try to convert cash players to bitcoin players. Peepsplace.com and bitcointalk are separate entities. Peepsplace.com has turned down advertising from many bad books.

Updated:

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
BetVIP D+ (2014)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports

But you still give Anonibet with A rate??

Anonibet's rating is in line with other sportsbook rating sites. They were the No.2 book with Ryan's poster vote here at bitcointalk until contest allegations.






Yep they're good in bet but really terrible in contest
see my evidence here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.msg7918311#msg7918311

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July 19, 2014, 04:02:44 AM
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DirectBet- For the 10th time Bitcointalk has nothing to do with peepsplace.com.If you advertise at peepsplace.com we plug you at cash forums, not bitcointalk. You are trying to confuse people.
 
 As far as payments, business relationships and what I play, you are wrong. You begged for weeks for us to keep your banner up. We still took it down.


"DirectBet- For the 10th time Bitcointalk has nothing to do with peepsplace.com.If you advertise at peepsplace.com we plug you at cash forums, not bitcointalk."

Your argument is unconvincing. This is what I get from it:

Peeps - "I accept payments from books on one site.

I rate books on another site.

I'm not influenced in any way by the fact that some of the books are paying me to advertise them and to promote them on other forums."



Ironically, the original Peeps ("C.", the late founder of Peeps Place) was contacted by myself long ago.
I asked him if he felt that any of the (fiat) sportsbook ratings sites were unbiased.
His response - "They all give the best ratings to the books who pay them to advertise on their sites".
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July 19, 2014, 04:07:33 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 04:43:55 AM by Peeps Place
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1. Anonibet told me that I can take them off the ratings here at Bitcointalk. I decided it was unfair to allow DirectBet to dictate the rules here and left them up.

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Dear Peepsplace,

I stated on the first post I have posted here on your thread that as Anonibet we do not want to make any comment or post anything. Unless a question was directly asked to us, we do not interfere in your discussions. As we said before, we prefer the thread being used by player for players.

Please do NOT DEFEND OR MENTION ANONIBET in any of your post. If you wish you can delete us from your rating list. We do not want to be part of a discussion with any bookmaker. We have been present since 2011, and this is the best response we can give to anyone.

2. Anonibet has a huge player base outside of bitcointalk. It's my feeling that they are the only book not surviving on bitcointalk and continue to expand their player base.

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ANONIBET.COM IS HIRING

ANONIBET is looking for Area or Country Marketing Managers for the following regions:
Latin America (Spanish and Portuguese)
Russia (Russian)
Scandinavia (Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian)
Asian (all languages except Chinese)

Required skills:
•   Bitcoin enthusiasts with online marketing experiences in their respective countries.
•   Ability to promote Bitcoin and Anonibet
•   Ability to contact local Bitcoin communities and establish partnership
•   Online gambling experience is a plus

Please do NOT post any question to the forum. No answer will be given via the forum.
Please email your CV directly to michael.hoshford@anonibet.com with a short cover letter stating what you can achieve in the country or area you are applying for.

3. With the contest, I talked with two people from Anonibet. There is absolutely no way in the world that the winner wasn't legitimate.

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July 19, 2014, 04:19:22 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2014, 04:40:07 AM by Peeps Place
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Gogo- Everyone is going to say that money is influencing the ratings guide here. I'm not going to change anyone's mind on this and I realize it. I try to do the best that I can to look at it objectively.

I've posted ad nauseam on how I've voluntarily taken down banners in the past forfeiting money and paying players out of my pocket that were stiffed by BetonSports. No other forum has even done that to my knowledge.

I'd like to mention again what Anonibet said.
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July 20, 2014, 01:24:13 PM
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BetVIP raised from D+ to C-.

BetVIP is licensed in Curacao. In an earlier post it was asked if any poster had a problem with BetVIP and no problem was stated.

"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)

"B"rated books
NitrogenSports B+ (2012)
Betcoinsports B- (2013)
Casinobitcoin B- (2013)

"C" rated books
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
SBObitcoin C+ (2013) *
DirectBet C (2013)
Jetwin C- (2013)
BetOWI C- (2014) *
BetVIP C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Coindraft D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Webetcoins D+ (2014)
Gobetgo D+ (2014)
Bitbm D


"F" rated books
BetCas F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC

NR
Darkbet
Betmoose
Fairlay
Cointeller
Bitbook
xbet.io
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports
Predictious
tdsports


* longer accepting cash deposits



Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are slow paying or stiffing players

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July 20, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
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There are people who rate Bitcoin Sportbooks, and there are people who rate the people that rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.

71% think that Peeps Place does not have the creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks because he is getting paid by Anonibet to rate them on top regardless of public opinion.

What do you think ?

Come and vote in our thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=393147.1400

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July 21, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
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do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...
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July 21, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
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do u have a word with anonibet boss? he is not answering me several days...

he say anonitips contest winner is just a regular customer... i want him to explain me how anonitips has a facebook page since 2011 with anonibet address and logo in the contact info...

wait the guy's actual screename he won with is anonitips?  Wow can't get much more obvious that that! haha.  Seriously if this type of crap is true you really should be lowering the Anonibet rating...
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July 25, 2014, 07:32:07 AM
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I'll look in to Anonibet some more.

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July 25, 2014, 07:32:24 AM
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New site http://betxcp.com/

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