[ANN] AgoraDesk.com | Buy ♻️ Sell Bitcoins Anonymously!

[Bitcoin_Arena]

You speak the truth i asked about "tainted coins are accepted?" in telegram to the AgoraDesk admin and he banned me permanently for asking that question.

There is a difference between asking if "tainted coins are accepted" and requesting to approve your ad where it was written “tainted coins accepted”

The admin Alex or Edward can explain their side of the story here and defend their arbitrary ban over asking a question on Telegram.
I asked that question on telegram to NOT break their ToS and to be sure it was allowed on AgoraDesk to mention Tainted coins accepted, this question on telegram got me banned.

I don't understand why you all try to defend AgoraDesk when i only speak the truth and want to warn any traders who plan to use AgoraDesk in the future.

Reading what you first wrote, I can tell you are trying to twist the wording. You are even trying to tell users that the site is not safe to trade on, yet they have never scammed you. You are just a cry baby and sounding unfair to them.

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[letsxmr]

Maybe because we are thousands of users being satisfied with the service?  

I mean, I never had a single issue with their team and I made a lot of exchanges there.

I never had any issues with them before as well! you can see i had 100% positive feedback with around 100 trades successful.
I should just never speak to them on Telegram and i would have avoided to be banned today.
The admins Alex and Edward are just soo compliant with AML rules and are nice government bootlickers that they prefer to ban me for simply asking any question about AML or Mixed coins or Tainted coins when choosing my seller ads Title.

@Bitcoin_Arena:

The admin Alex threaten me to seize any balance of Monero i have inside Agoradesk if i open a new account. So yes its a risky service.
For the "twisted words" part that you speak about, let me explain again:
They banned me when i asked if i could put Tainted and mixer coins accepted in my title of seller ad as i accept any kind of Bitcoin for Monero.

This is really clear i never said anything else than that. AND i never posted anything breaking their ToS in AgoraDesk.
This simple QUESTION on telegram got me banned by Edward the AgoraDesk Admin.

You can try to defend this market as you got maybe some involvement with them but it will not change any of theses facts.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Maybe because we are thousands of users being satisfied with the service?

I'm satisfied by the service as well. However, I found this detail in their ToS:

We may at any time require you to complete our ID verification process and may also require you to submit additional identification documents to AgoraDesk if we deem it necessary. Failing to complete ID verification will be considered a violation of this agreement. We may close (upon which the account's cryptocurrency arbitration bond and fee balance will be forfeited), suspend, or limit your access to your account or to other Services we offer, and/or limit access to your cryptocurrency arbitration bond and fee balance for up to 180 days (or longer if pursuant to a court order or other legal process) if we consider that you are using the AgoraDesk platform to scam other users or for any other unlawful purpose, or if we receive reports that you are communicating unlawful or defamatory messages to other users [...]

I thought AgoraDesk was completely non-KYC[1], but as it turns out, not only can it turn into a KYC exchange, but it can suspend the user's account and confiscate their coins if they fail to complete the KYC. Unless I'm missing something, please someone correct me. Maybe the user letsxmr was banned due to an assumption their coins originated from criminal activity? Otherwise, I don't see which rule they violated.

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In addition to the fact that the platform can function without JavaScript, AgoraDesk is also committed to maintaining simplicity and privacy, so it never requests KYC/ID verification and never plans to do so.

[letsxmr]

Maybe because we are thousands of users being satisfied with the service?

I'm satisfied by the service as well. However, I found this detail in their ToS:

We may at any time require you to complete our ID verification process and may also require you to submit additional identification documents to AgoraDesk if we deem it necessary. Failing to complete ID verification will be considered a violation of this agreement. We may close (upon which the account's cryptocurrency arbitration bond and fee balance will be forfeited), suspend, or limit your access to your account or to other Services we offer, and/or limit access to your cryptocurrency arbitration bond and fee balance for up to 180 days (or longer if pursuant to a court order or other legal process) if we consider that you are using the AgoraDesk platform to scam other users or for any other unlawful purpose, or if we receive reports that you are communicating unlawful or defamatory messages to other users [...]

I thought AgoraDesk was completely non-KYC[1], but as it turns out, not only can it turn into a KYC exchange, but it can suspend the user's account and confiscate their coins if they fail to complete the KYC. Unless I'm missing something, please someone correct me. Maybe the user letsxmr was banned due to an assumption their coins originated from criminal activity? Otherwise, I don't see which rule they violated.

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In addition to the fact that the platform can function without JavaScript, AgoraDesk is also committed to maintaining simplicity and privacy, so it never requests KYC/ID verification and never plans to do so.

"not only can it turn into a KYC exchange, but it can suspend the user's account and confiscate their coins if they fail to complete the KYC"
This part of their ToS you speak about is the HIGH RISK involved using their pretended "non-custodial p2p" exchange who actually is fully custodial at AgoraDesk. Thanks for highlighting it.

I got banned simply for ASKING if i could put in my title of seller offers: "Mixed or Tainted Bitcoins accepted"
So yes you are right AgoraDesk and Localmonero market themselves as NO KYC but they can indeed ask any proof of funds or KYC from any customers.
They are no different than Paxful, Noones, Binance P2P or all the other custodial p2p exchanges who asks KYC or Source of Funds.
I just got lucky all this time to not get shotgun KYC my sweet Monero by AgoraDesk/Localmonero.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

The admin Alex threaten me to seize any balance of Monero i have inside Agoradesk if i open a new account. So yes its a risky service.

They didn't threat you. They simply warned you, so what's wrong with that?

They told you to stay off their platform, So what exactly is the problem? They never took your funds.

For the "twisted words" part that you speak about, let me explain again:
They banned me when i asked if i could put Tainted and mixer coins accepted in my title of seller ad as i accept any kind of Bitcoin for Monero.

Can you show us the message you sent to the support, screenshot perhaps?

[LocalMonero]

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Since @OP haven't post the important update, I will post it here.

I'm curious did you receive messages from the authorities which require to enforce KYC requirements? or you shut down your service for personal reasons? I check on WHOIS your domain is listed on Tortola state, Tortola isn't a part of US, AFAIK only US is cracking down privacy related to Bitcoin.

LocalMonero / AgoraDesk will be winding down it's operations
Published: 2024-05-07
Hey everyone,

After almost 7 years of operation, due to a combination of internal and external factors, we have made the difficult decision to close our platform.

We're extremely thankful for the love and support we've received over the years. We couldn't have done it without you. We love you all ♥

LocalMonero has been around for most of Monero's life. Fortunately, the Monero ecosystem has matured a lot over these years, and with the imminent launch of Haveno and other DEXs like Serai, atomic swaps, the coming addition of FCMP (full blockchain anonymity set replacing rings of 16) as well as the continuing and rapidly accelerating development of the Monero protocol, we're confident that Monero's future is bright, with or without our platform.

The winding-down process begins today, and finishes 6 months from now. Our support staff will be available for help throughout this period.

Effective immediately, all new signups and ad postings are disabled;
One week from now, on May 14th, 2024, new trades will be disabled as well;
6 months from now, on November 7th, 2024, the website will be taken down. Please reclaim any funds from your arbitration bond wallet prior to that date, otherwise the funds may be considered abandoned/forfeited.

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Since @OP haven't post the important update, I will post it here.

I'm curious did you receive messages from the authorities which require to enforce KYC requirements? or you shut down your service for personal reasons? I check on WHOIS your domain is listed on Tortola state, Tortola isn't a part of US, AFAIK only US is cracking down privacy related to Bitcoin.

Thank you for sharing the news.

This is really bad, what a loss for us. Every day, a new batch of P2P and privacy-oriented services are closing. I hope that those who remain will be able to hold on...

Your service was a reference for our community, it will be missed  

[Husires]

I'm curious did you receive messages from the authorities which require to enforce KYC requirements? or you shut down your service for personal reasons? I check on WHOIS your domain is listed on Tortola state, Tortola isn't a part of US, AFAIK only US is cracking down privacy related to Bitcoin.

At least they announced that. Many services stopped suddenly during the past two weeks, and I do not think that what happened was a coincidence, so something must have happened and they asked them to stop immediately, otherwise judicial charges will be brought against them.
The United States government cooperates with several governments around the world, so what happens may be the result of this cooperation.

[dkbit98]

This is really bad, what a loss for us. Every day, a new batch of P2P and privacy-oriented services are closing. I hope that those who remain will be able to hold on...

RIP Agoradesk and LocalMonero  
Every day I read crypto news I am waiting to see what service is shutting down next... yesterday it was Agoradesk, tomorrow something else...
Message from Agoradesk tram gives us some hope with Haveno, Serai, atomic swaps and others, we need to have more usable non-kyc fiat services.
Developers should start working on new generation p2p trading services that have no (or minimal) centralization in them, to avoid risks of them being taken down.

[logfiles]

I'm curious did you receive messages from the authorities which require to enforce KYC requirements? or you shut down your service for personal reasons? I check on WHOIS your domain is listed on Tortola state, Tortola isn't a part of US, AFAIK only US is cracking down privacy related to Bitcoin.

Localcryptos wasn't also operating in the United States AFAIK, but they also had to voluntarily shut down, and many people suspect it was due to regulatory pressure. Even if a service does not operate within the US, if by any chance the regulators know that the US citizens use it. They will sue it, fine it some good sums of money and sanction it. At least this is what we have seen happen. So some owners/founders avoid this by shutting down voluntarily before the focus shifts to them.

[Blackbacked]

Localcryptos wasn't also operating in the United States AFAIK, but they also had to voluntarily shut down, and many people suspect it was due to regulatory pressure. Even if a service does not operate within the US, if by any chance the regulators know that the US citizens use it. They will sue it, fine it some good sums of money and sanction it. At least this is what we have seen happen. So some owners/founders avoid this by shutting down voluntarily before the focus shifts to them.

Operate the service in a country which is maximally-hostile to the U.S. govt. Even if FBI/NSA/SEC etc will deanonymize owner's name and address, they cannot do anything in real life.
Look recent example of LockBit ransomware operator - identified, but U.S. govt. is powerless on Russian territory.

[nutildah]

Bummer. Just opened the site to see the bad news. Kinda afraid to place an order now, with only 1 week to go before trades are closed completely, for a potentially reversible payment method. Was a great service but I don't blame them for making this difficult decision -- US is cracking down hard on crypto. This year, 10 years into my crypto experience, marks the end of an era. RIP free markets & free trade.

Operate the service in a country which is maximally-hostile to the U.S. govt. Even if FBI/NSA/SEC etc will deanonymize owner's name and address, they cannot do anything in real life.

They can still torment sellers based in non-hostile countries.