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June 21, 2018, 01:26:18 PM
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USER PROFILE : Ajpa94
MERIT SUMMARY : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=911155
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June 21, 2018, 01:39:19 PM
Last edit: June 21, 2018, 01:52:28 PM by mdayonliner
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Man this is ridiculous to see. I feel poisoned when I see these kind of activities but I had too much with people saying I am hypocrite/exchanging words with these abusers/discouraging words from some people around here etc. May be this is going to be my last rabbit hole digging:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4330297.0 <=== Calling out [staff] xandry for an explanation: Thank you  

Good finding by the way. Good job.

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June 21, 2018, 01:50:07 PM
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Yes, I was wondering about this one too, as he came up on the stats as one of the most recent merited users, and I had not read any of his posts to date. No wonder... Not only are the amounts merited unbalanced with the posts’ content in amounts that are unusual to see, but most of the meriting goes on for oldish posts, which is rather uncommon too.

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June 21, 2018, 01:53:30 PM
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Well, it doesn't get any more obvious than this. And has been also reported time ago already, kind of suck for all people that are trying to get merits honestly   Sad
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June 21, 2018, 02:08:55 PM
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Yep, highlighting again:
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Merit summary for Ajpa94

Sent in the last 120 days
June 20, 2018, 03:43:36 PM: 2 to CryptoBridge for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
June 20, 2018, 03:42:58 PM: 3 to Hermes Mercury for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
June 20, 2018, 03:31:27 PM: 15 to Entei for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
June 20, 2018, 03:17:33 PM: 13 to Livermore_ for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:55:24 AM: 10 to PascalCoin for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:52:27 AM: 1 to blastdev for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:51:40 AM: 1 to TheStuhlman for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:31:16 AM: 1 to semux for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:31:02 AM: 50 to Kda2018 for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:22:23 AM: 6 to ArchimedesIX for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:05:03 AM: 50 to Karodozo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

Received in the last 120 days
June 20, 2018, 03:44:18 PM: 1 from Hermes Mercury for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
June 20, 2018, 03:36:33 PM: 19 from Entei for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
June 20, 2018, 03:19:19 PM: 30 from Livermore_ for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
June 11, 2018, 02:08:53 PM: 5 from Lumberjack1935 for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
May 28, 2018, 04:17:37 PM: 20 from Eddyc for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:50:37 AM: 25 from Kda2018 for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
May 27, 2018, 06:07:16 AM: 20 from Karodozo for Re: Merit & new rank requirements
March 12, 2018, 11:23:46 AM: 30 from Karodozo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
March 08, 2018, 08:44:56 PM: 20 from Gekkoo for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
March 08, 2018, 08:10:31 PM: 30 from Mihawk for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
March 08, 2018, 08:07:03 PM: 30 from Raizou for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
March 08, 2018, 08:04:36 PM: 20 from TheCrimsonFucker for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

We should probably look into these other accounts as well.


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Re: Merit & new rank requirements
January 31, 2018, 03:58:21 AM
Merited by Livermore_ (30), Karodozo (20), Lumberjack1935 (5)

I'm satisfied with my status as a Sr. Member! Of course if there was not this new system, at this moment I'd be Hero, but for months I have selected only good projects to spread the word and rightly, I don't care what if I get paid or not! The truth is that in the last 3 months, with the explosion of airdrops, there was another explosion, the explosion of farm accounts to get airdrops and passive devs from this situation! I'm not that old of the forum, but I'm in favor of learning, it's worth a lot more good post than some satoshis gotten in bounty campaign. Are there chances of a few months there will be some update on the merits and so people will rise in rank? However, as Lauda said a few previous pages, if the person applies, it's impossible for her to not receive some merit. Smiley

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June 21, 2018, 02:18:46 PM
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Really it's huge merit abuse. For this kind of people happening corruption on merit system. I know basically no one tag merit abuser. But in this kind of user should be tag. So other people will be aware.

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June 21, 2018, 02:24:51 PM
Last edit: June 22, 2018, 05:23:10 AM by Piggy
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E.g. this post received 55 merit by 3 users:
Re: Merit & new rank requirements
January 31, 2018, 03:58:21 AM
Merited by Livermore_
(30), Karodozo (20), Lumberjack1935 (5)



https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=ajpa94

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Sent by Ajpa94Total Merits 119

Received by Ajpa94Total Merits 200



Here you go, this is the full merit history for these:

https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Lumberjack1935

https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Livermore_

https://albertoit.github.io/Visualization/Merit%20js%20tool/filterMeritLocal.html?id=Karodozo
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June 21, 2018, 09:08:08 PM
Last edit: June 21, 2018, 09:27:42 PM by coinlocket$
Merited by Husna QA (1)
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Work in progress, continue tomorrow

Starting deeper investigation

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Karodozo: 0x3f18A564Df8bb042379a18dBfFce2ACB60eb71d9

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0x3f18A564Df8bb042379a18dBfFce2ACB60eb71d9



ArchimedesIX NO ETH, poor account

Kda2018

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0x2Da4508F12cF70c92beB4D517aDa86d24461EdAc

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2da4508f12cf70c92beb4d517ada86d24461edac
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CD_WEzNMK5j5yWNJ6mNj4g7LjbUDICKF7EGcDvxWwI8/edit#gid=26998889

TheCrimsonFucker No eth found
Raizou http://archive.is/oJR4D#selection-4561.13-4561.55
Code:
0x609a9C5Ab4b64FD4c60E658FA82a73087619e233
https://etherscan.io/address/0x609a9C5Ab4b64FD4c60E658FA82a73087619e233


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June 22, 2018, 01:41:48 AM
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Explicit merit abuse between Ajpa94, Karodozo, Kda2018, Livermore_.

May 27, 2018, 02:05:03 AM: 50 to Karodozo
May 27, 2018, 02:07:16 AM: 20 from Karodozo
(2 minutes apart!)
March 12, 2018, 07:23:46 AM: 30 from Karodozo

May 27, 2018, 02:31:02 AM: 50 to Kda2018
May 27, 2018, 02:50:37 AM: 25 from Kda2018

June 20, 2018, 11:17:33 AM: 13 to Livermore_
June 20, 2018, 11:19:19 AM: 30 from Livermore_
It's pretty obvious that Aj just sent the merit to those users in order to get a return. Smiley

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June 22, 2018, 02:25:44 AM
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Explicit merit abuse between Ajpa94, Karodozo, Kda2018, Livermore_.

It's pretty obvious that Aj just sent the merit to those users in order to get a return. Smiley

Probably if this accounts has different owners, they might be friends or worse they might create a syndicate. Thanks for tagging tho. What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho
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June 22, 2018, 03:24:22 AM
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What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho
That's a bit silly, isn't it?

Think about it for a second:

How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore?
Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word?
Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again?
The tag stays. For a significant amount of time.

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June 22, 2018, 04:16:35 AM
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What only concerns me right now is that if AJpa94 would say to you and proves that he/she will stop abusing merit system. Is it possible that you are going to remove the tagged? just curious tho
That's a bit silly, isn't it?

Think about it for a second:

How does one, exactly, prove that they won't merit abuse anymore?
Why do they deserve a second chance just based on their word?
Does the same thing happen when someone says they won't shoplift again?
The tag stays. For a significant amount of time.

It doesn't matter anymore if how would that person prove to you that he/she would stop abusing the merit system. Basically what I want to hear is actually that you are not going to remove it anymore(which i think your answer is similar to that in my understanding). Because even if that person proves it. The damage is still done since that certain account's ranking is not going to decreased anymore.
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June 22, 2018, 07:06:19 AM
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Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary


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June 22, 2018, 11:49:08 AM
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Nice catch but there's something wrong with the title. It wasn't the first Sr. to rank up to Hero. According to DdmrDdmr's dashboard there are already 8.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ddmrddmr#!/vizhome/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/GlobalSummary



Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts...

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June 22, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
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Well I will do an even deeper investigation on those. A lot of them seems shady accounts...

I'll update the Dashboard today if all goes well, so perhaps a few lot  more ranking-ups will occur; hopefully the legit way ...

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There is no other convincing argument to put forward. I am always careful in reaching a conclusion based on circumstantial evidence, but this is obviously more than that. Its an outright abuse of the merit system and a slap on the face of those who decides to gain merit in the most decent, legit and hardworking way without wanting to circumvent and frustrate the very essence of the merit system. I am sure a lot of people must have received PMs geared towards exchange of merits just for ranking up without quality posts to stand for that but choose to ignore for the sake of the community.

If it were up to me, people like this user should not be allowed in the community. If it were to be a newbie, I would advocate a form leniency not for Hero Member who would have been here before the implementation and would have known what led to it then willfully decides to circumvent the process, the highest form should be meted against such.
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June 22, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
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I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF?Huh

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Activity: 10
Merit: 550

How the hell was this even possible???
And is he trying to delete his post history?

http://archive.is/EstL5

(those are edited messages).

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June 22, 2018, 12:26:51 PM
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I run into Kda2018 on the segwit2x topic, saw his empty message and while I was waiting to see if there is an image loading I looked at his merit .......WTF?Huh

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Activity: 10
Merit: 550

How the hell was this even possible???
And is he trying to delete his post history?

http://archive.is/EstL5

(those are edited messages).

The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

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June 22, 2018, 12:32:26 PM
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The account only ever received 50 Merit in one transaction so it must have been a Hero account on 24th Jan. Then for whatever reason, they have deleted the post history.

Yep. The data on the Dasboard from last Friday shows:

Current Rank: Hero Member   
Date Created: 20/04/2016   
Activity: 641
Posts: 641 (same as activity..)
Merit: 550
Initial Merit 500
Received Merit: 50
Tx Received: 1
Merit Sent: 113
Tx Sent: 10

Perhaps the account has been sold/bought and the activity deleted.

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June 22, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
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They have deleted all their post history after the RED tag  (yesterday they had posts), this probably prove that they are alts.

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