[WTB]🌟Antminer Z9 mini 🌟cheap🌟 read explanation why I do not pay $2,000🌟

[Tupsu]

I wish to buy Z9 mini{s} cheaper, as todays aftermarket price 2000 usd

My miner's price was 1643.06USD shipped . I used 420USD coupon.

For compensation I got 2 x250USD coupons from Bitmain.

So, I certainly will not pay more than for the first Z9

I am willing to pay 900USD + shipping


For explanation:
1. Bitmain shipped out total 7742 Antminer Z9 mini  https://twitter.com/Antminer_main

How many innosilicon miners have been sold is not known.  But one A9 = 3-5 pic  Z9 minis

Thus, 1000 A9 equals at least 3000 Z9 mini

So total shipped at least 10,000 Z9 mini equivalent.


 

The next batch Z9 will be sent after  55-66 days . So i get it at least 70 days later from today.

Today is the Bitmain price 900 USD shipped. If I use a 420USD coupon, price is 480USD.

The price of today's aftermarket is about 2000USD


I do not think that with  a 70-day miner will earn 1500 USD and not even half of it.

https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-z9-mini

3. Innosilicon Equihash A9 ZMaster 9999 USD  Buy One Get One free Special Promotion

http://innosilicon.com/html/a9-miner/index.html

So you can buy 2x A9 ZMaster miners for 9999 USD + shipping.
it does 100ksol/s +/-6% and 1240W +/-5%

That's equal 9 Antminer Z9 minis and much more power 2900W at normal speed

This means that the Z9 mini is more than twice over priced on aftermarket .
It can not last long.
9x2000USD =18000 USD versus 9999USD

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[Tupsu]

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[BenRickert]

You are correct. They will not return the initial investment. Problem is, there are a lot of stupid people running around that believe in pixie dust and unicorns that will pay $2,000 in a nano second. Saw it last night in another Z9 thread. Some asshat bought one for $2000 in less than 4 posts. Even though the seller had ALREADY recouped his money. It's just how it goes around here. Idiots everywhere.

[fanatic26]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

[Tupsu]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

So you're convinced that the Z9 mini will earn 1500 USD or more with  a 70-day ?

1500 USD This is the difference between Batch3 and the market price.
70 days is the maximum waiting time.
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I know all my 4x Antminer B3 earning is today  12-13 BTM =4.44 USD what is 1.11USD per miner and it's all and it goes for  paying  electricity.

Bitmain sold it for  1875 USD, shipped 1-10 may
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180424165031060prOryiaX0729
batch2 for 1588 USD shipped 11-20 may
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180502135225326on3p022D0647

and in less than two months he will not even earn back electricity costs.

Why should the Z9 mini be so different?

[BenRickert]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

Try googling what happens to crypto mining profitability once too much hashing Power enters the network. Or you could just look at the S9, L3+, A3, D3. Or you could just keep typing ignorant comments that just prove that you know very little about the real world of mining. Your choice.

[BenRickert]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

So you're convinced that the Z9 mini will earn 1500 USD or more with  a 70-day ?

1500 USD This is the difference between Batch3 and the market price.
70 days is the maximum waiting time.
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I know all my 4x Antminer B3 earning is today  12-13 BTM =4.44 USD what is 1.11USD per miner and it's all and it goes for  paying  electricity.

Bitmain sold it for  1875 USD, shipped 1-10 may
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180424165031060prOryiaX0729
batch2 for 1588 USD shipped 11-20 may
https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180502135225326on3p022D0647

and in less than two months he will not even earn back electricity costs.

Why should the Z9 mini be so different?

I wouldn’t pay much attention to his babbling. There’s a lot of ignorance behind that big post count. You can see how he got them.

[R0mi]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

Try googling what happens to crypto mining profitability once too much hashing Power enters the network. Or you could just look at the S9, L3+, A3, D3. Or you could just keep typing ignorant comments that just prove that you know very little about the real world of mining. Your choice.

This time will be different.

[fanatic26_]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

Try googling what happens to crypto mining profitability once too much hashing Power enters the network. Or you could just look at the S9, L3+, A3, D3. Or you could just keep typing ignorant comments that just prove that you know very little about the real world of mining. Your choice.

The funniest part about your statement is I have more mining experience than 95% of the forum put together. I currently manage over 11,000 ASIC based miners, so I think I know a bit about what I am saying. I would venture to say you are the ignorant one.

Currently before power these are making $800+ a month easy. I would bet on a 4 to 5 month payoff no problem on these. If you are one of those home idiots mining on $0.13/kwh power of course you arent going to make money. You should have realized that and stopped long ago.

I am willing to bet nobody is tripping over themselves to give OP miners at a discount that is not yet warranted based on market conditions and profitability.


Also...basing anything on the failure of the B3 is idiotic. Only the extremely gullible would buy a miner that can mine a single coin with no history of profitability. So using that to compare against a miner that can mine half a dozen coins is stupid, just like your comments Ben.

[greenfailure]

Yea, to add to this. I purchased and have been running a batch of z9's. Plugged in June 22nd - ETA for ROI is 18/08/2018 (about 45 days from now).... 

A bullish market move in the coming months could give ROI to all batch 1 purchasers prior to shipping of the next batch.

[Tupsu]

Yea, to add to this. I purchased and have been running a batch of z9's. Plugged in June 22nd - ETA for ROI is 18/08/2018 (about 45 days from now).... 

A bullish market move in the coming months could give ROI to all batch 1 purchasers prior to shipping of the next batch.

This is a very optimistic hope.
 I turned on the Z9  2018-06-25 and miner has earned until today  with 8 days 1.34128471 ZEC

Average hashrate 15.11 KSol/s   It is possible that he ROI before Batch 3 miners arrived.
It turns out after 65 days.  But still he will not earn $ 2,000 with this time.

[roc-noc]

Yea, to add to this. I purchased and have been running a batch of z9's. Plugged in June 22nd - ETA for ROI is 18/08/2018 (about 45 days from now).... 

A bullish market move in the coming months could give ROI to all batch 1 purchasers prior to shipping of the next batch.

This is a very optimistic hope.
 I turned on the Z9  2018-06-25 and miner has earned until today  with 8 days 1.34128471 ZEC

Average hashrate 15.11 KSol/s   It is possible that he ROI before Batch 3 miners arrived.
It turns out after 65 days.  But still he will not earn $ 2,000 with this time.

Optimists are buying more rigs and mining. 

Pessimists are selling their rigs and not.

[TotallyNotaLiar]

Optimists are buying more rigs and mining.  

Pessimists are selling their rigs and not.

supply/demand you know the rules to that one eh?

tupsu if you are not satisfied with your z9 miner I might be willing to consider offering more than what you've already contemplated offering for yours

if you are satisfied with it just be glad you made it to the wagon early

[Tupsu]

Optimists are buying more rigs and mining.  

Pessimists are selling their rigs and not.

supply/demand you know the rules to that one eh?

tupsu if you are not satisfied with your z9 miner I might be willing to consider offering more than what you've already contemplated offering for yours

if you are satisfied with it just be glad you made it to the wagon early

Of course, I'm ready to sell my own for 2000USD, with shipping to a larger part of the world. Why not?
I have bought enough Batch3 machines that are 100% paid.
 Of course, is preferable  EU, because I have been paid VAT and it is a waste of money post to  outside EU.

[yrk1957]

A joke thread indeed with failed math added.

[Tupsu]

A joke thread indeed with failed math added.

Now when Z9 is already on sale, the price I offered for the Z9 mini should be very good.

Antminer Z9  Shipping: Sep. 1-10
3319 USD

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180710164901333EGb4bPcY0681

But the four Z9 mini with 420 USD coupon and shipping are all together only 1920USD

Z9 price with 250USD coupon and shipping is 3200USD

[yrk1957]

A joke thread indeed with failed math added.

Now when Z9 is already on sale, the price I offered for the Z9 mini should be very good.

Antminer Z9  Shipping: Sep. 1-10
3319 USD

https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020180710164901333EGb4bPcY0681

But the four Z9 mini with 420 USD coupon and shipping are all together only 1920USD

Z9 price with 250USD coupon and shipping is 3200USD

In the next 50 days, Z9 Mini will earn $1000, which is an estimate on the lowest side. So tell me again why anyone will sell it you for $900?

[Tupsu]

In the next 50 days, Z9 Mini will earn $1000, which is an estimate on the lowest side. So tell me again why anyone will sell it you for $900?

There may also be much less ,  if Bitmain turns on for "testing" his 10000 x  Z9

[Iluka]

Nice math algorithm. Even when crypto market was high, 2000$ price was tooo expensive. 700$ is a red line for S9

[hiphoptrail]

You doom and gloom guys are hilarious. They wont recoup the investment? You must not math very well.

Try googling what happens to crypto mining profitability once too much hashing Power enters the network. Or you could just look at the S9, L3+, A3, D3. Or you could just keep typing ignorant comments that just prove that you know very little about the real world of mining. Your choice.

The funniest part about your statement is I have more mining experience than 95% of the forum put together. I currently manage over 11,000 ASIC based miners, so I think I know a bit about what I am saying. I would venture to say you are the ignorant one.

Currently before power these are making $800+ a month easy. I would bet on a 4 to 5 month payoff no problem on these. If you are one of those home idiots mining on $0.13/kwh power of course you arent going to make money. You should have realized that and stopped long ago.

I am willing to bet nobody is tripping over themselves to give OP miners at a discount that is not yet warranted based on market conditions and profitability.


Also...basing anything on the failure of the B3 is idiotic. Only the extremely gullible would buy a miner that can mine a single coin with no history of profitability. So using that to compare against a miner that can mine half a dozen coins is stupid, just like your comments Ben.

i like your post. spot on bro!