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September 26, 2011, 12:24:27 AM
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I was originally gonna develop a casino. Got too lazy to.

domain's up for sale to the highest bidder.

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September 26, 2011, 01:30:13 AM
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.3 Bee Tee Cee
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September 26, 2011, 03:46:19 AM
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.5 btc, I have the drive and technical team to build such a thing and make it sucessful.
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September 26, 2011, 05:20:59 AM
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.7 btc, I don't have the drive nor the technical team to build such a thing and make it sucessful.
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September 26, 2011, 04:11:54 PM
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i'll bid .712
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September 26, 2011, 04:27:52 PM
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.8

Edit: Final offer!
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September 26, 2011, 07:57:56 PM
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.812
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September 26, 2011, 11:59:16 PM
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.812
If I win money at your casino are you going to need to borrow money from your girlfriend to cover the payout?

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September 27, 2011, 12:00:08 AM
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Atlas.. no, don't go there.
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September 27, 2011, 12:20:59 AM
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.5 btc, I have the drive and technical team to build such a thing and make it sucessful.
No offence, but you couldn't even configure an off-the-shelf e-commerce system... nor did you offer any way to pay in bitcoins on your site. How the hell do you expect people to believe that you have the skills or funds to set up a gambling site?
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September 27, 2011, 12:29:17 AM
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.5 btc, I have the drive and technical team to build such a thing and make it sucessful.
No offence, but you couldn't even configure an off-the-shelf e-commerce system... nor did you offer any way to pay in bitcoins on your site. How the hell do you expect people to believe that you have the skills or funds to set up a gambling site?

I believe in him. I want to see him set up a gambling site. In the US.
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September 27, 2011, 12:31:58 AM
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I believe in him. I want to see him set up a gambling site. In the US.
If I thought there was a chance that he would ever put up a functioning gambling website then I'd donate the money to purchase the domain just to watch the fallout.

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September 27, 2011, 01:01:40 AM
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.812

Do you even have $5?

Please give me your money, because I am a shameless libertarian elite who deserves your money more than you do: 9Hkao8U82WWDp6SQGn4k7ad9gT1LWeL5s3
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September 27, 2011, 01:32:41 AM
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The ammount if coins I have is no one's business. If the op goes for .812 then they'll get .812.
Yeesh.
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September 27, 2011, 01:35:28 AM
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No offence, but you couldn't even configure an off-the-shelf e-commerce system... nor did you offer any way to pay in bitcoins on your site. How the hell do you expect people to believe that you have the skills or funds to set up a gambling site?

No offence but Zen Cart isn't off the shelf.
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September 27, 2011, 01:57:49 AM
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NAME OF CASINO GOES HERE

You better hope none of the roulette machines win on the first day.  THE MONEY YOU PUT IN THE MACHINE WAS A GIFT.

Do you know what it's like to be built this way?
With only the power to push others away?
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September 27, 2011, 02:01:37 AM
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NAME OF CASINO GOES HERE

hahaha  Grin

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September 27, 2011, 02:08:38 AM
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NAME OF CASINO GOES HERE

You better hope none of the roulette machines win on the first day.  THE MONEY YOU PUT IN THE MACHINE WAS A GIFT.

lol
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How long is the domain name registered?  I might like to offer a bid and believe I have a web designer lined up.

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September 27, 2011, 03:20:35 AM
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Its currently registered on 1and1.com with my hosting plan. probably a year? i'd ahve to see how i can transfer it

http://casinobtc.heroku.com/ this is how far i got with my site lol

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September 27, 2011, 03:27:02 AM
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I have a server available to move site to if I need to.  I am working on a programmer to see if he can do what I am looking for.  Hopefully if he can I would like to have this domain and be ready for play soon.

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September 27, 2011, 05:29:44 PM
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If you take the .815 btc I have a server and a team of programmers on standby(one is from here, the others are from SL). We could make your project of opening an online bitcoin casino very possible.
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September 27, 2011, 06:38:50 PM
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If you take the .815 btc I have a server and a team of programmers on standby(one is from here, the others are from SL). We could make your project of opening an online bitcoin casino very possible.

A bevy of SL programmers, ready to build the first Bitcoin casino with dick-wielding cat-people player avatars

A most advanced casino
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September 27, 2011, 06:48:05 PM
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If you take the .815 btc I have a server and a team of programmers on standby(one is from here, the others are from SL). We could make your project of opening an online bitcoin casino very possible.
I hope it goes better than your bid to buy the rights to Talespin, your attempts to start an animation studio to animate "Better Days", your multiple attempts at an online gift card store, your attempts to sell your "professional" services to others, your attempts at a furry radio play...

When will you learn that, no, its not possible, without skill, capital, planning, and above all else, a basic ability to accept reality? You can't even fucking give someone their $10 worth of bitcoins back without taking a loan from your wife. The domain name should be the *last* step in starting your casino.

Go back to Second Life.



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If you take the .815 btc I have a server and a team of programmers on standby(one is from here, the others are from SL). We could make your project of opening an online bitcoin casino very possible.

A bevy of SL programmers, ready to build the first Bitcoin casino with dick-wielding cat-people player avatars

A most advanced casino

His casino is augmented.
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September 27, 2011, 06:49:19 PM
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I'll bid .816 just to save us from CASINO NAME GOES HERE
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September 27, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
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Since he has no money in $ or BTC, what currency will logansryche's casino operate with? Dr Pepper Points?
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September 27, 2011, 07:24:16 PM
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If you take the .815 btc I have a server and a team of programmers on standby(one is from here, the others are from SL). We could make your project of opening an online bitcoin casino very possible.

A bevy of SL programmers, ready to build the first Bitcoin casino with dick-wielding cat-people player avatars

A most advanced casino

OH GOD DAMN IT I THOUGHT HE MEAN ST. LOUIS

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Do you know what it's like to be built this way?
With only the power to push others away?
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September 27, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
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Most of the programmers I met in SL code servers for the likes of IBM.
Anyhow, here's my max. 1.5btc I do have more then that, just not much more.
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September 27, 2011, 08:14:17 PM
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1.5 BTC? Why that's a pathetic amount of money to bid on a domain! Insultingly low! A man of integrity and with true intentions to build a venture should be willing to bid more than 10, or 20, or more! I would myself, if I so cared. And in truth, when an entrepreneurial opportunity comes up, I frequently salivate at the thought of it, itching to contain myself. There really is nothing more satisfying that hard work to the accomplishment of industry. However, there is only such honor and satisfaction in proper business, and gambling is no proper business, so far as I'm concerned. Best of luck to whomever undertakes this venture with the integrity it deserves, and bully for your effort, but I must draw myself out of it.

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September 27, 2011, 08:16:30 PM
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Most of the programmers I met in SL code servers for the likes of IBM.
Anyhow, here's my max. 1.5btc I do have more then that, just not much more.

I might build a poker bot to play there, I know the guys at IBM that coded Watson.

And I shall name it AI NAME GOES HERE

I can probably pay them 10 BTC each for working on the bot, 5 BTC up front and the other 20% later.
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September 27, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
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Most of the programmers I met in SL code servers for the likes of IBM.
Most of the programmers I know, myself included, get paid good money. What are you going to give them? Random IC parts you've desoldered from old junk you find lying around? 0.01BTC per hour? Pepsi Points? Subway cards?  Are they going to do this out of the goodness of their heart? Why, what exactly are you bringing to the table here? The domain name, some free web space, and a long history of delusions? You're a liability more than anything else.

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Anyhow, here's my max. 1.5btc I do have more then that, just not much more.
You "don't have much more" than about $7.50 to spend on a domain. You can't even eat the cost of the bitcard domain name. I'm sure your casino will be fantastically successful. I look forward to the first customer winning a 'huge' 2 BTC and you threatening them with a restraining order because you can't pay them until you speak to your wife and she loans you some cash generated from a few SL cyber/phonesex jobs.
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September 27, 2011, 08:30:14 PM
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The domain name should be the *last* step in starting your casino.

Yes, there are far more important things to do, such as naming a CEO, coming up with logos, deciding whether your bevy of programmers should use web 2.0 or web 3.0 technology (I suggest 3.0), setting up a forum, ordering up business cards, designing some "under construction" graphics, "hiring" a VP of Marketing (working for equity only, of course), writing up a mission statement, ordering a copy of "PHP Illuminated", etc etc
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September 27, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
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The domain name should be the *last* step in starting your casino.

Yes, there are far more important things to do, such as naming a CEO, coming up with logos, deciding whether your bevy of programmers should use web 2.0 or web 3.0 technology (I suggest 3.0), setting up a forum, ordering up business cards, designing some "under construction" graphics, "hiring" a VP of Marketing (working for equity only, of course), writing up a mission statement, ordering a copy of "PHP Illuminated", etc etc


If I've learned anything from these forums, it's that the first thing I need to do is proclaim myself CEO of my company. I'll worry about setting it up and all the other little details later - I'm an ideas guy.
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September 27, 2011, 08:45:05 PM
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1.5 BTC? Why that's a pathetic amount of money to bid on a domain! Insultingly low! A man of integrity and with true intentions to build a venture should be willing to bid more than 10, or 20, or more! I would myself, if I so cared. And in truth, when an entrepreneurial opportunity comes up, I frequently salivate at the thought of it, itching to contain myself. There really is nothing more satisfying that hard work to the accomplishment of industry. However, there is only such honor and satisfaction in proper business, and gambling is no proper business, so far as I'm concerned. Best of luck to whomever undertakes this venture with the integrity it deserves, and bully for your effort, but I must draw myself out of it.
Well I would bid more but I can't so I won't. I bid what I can spend. You would too.


Most of the programmers I know, myself included, get paid good money. What are you going to give them? Random IC parts you've desoldered from old junk you find lying around? 0.01BTC per hour? Pepsi Points? Subway cards?  Are they going to do this out of the goodness of their heart? Why, what exactly are you bringing to the table here? The domain name, some free web space, and a long history of delusions? You're a liability more than anything else.
Well seeing how the programers I know for SL I made friends with from one group or another, the goal is still the same. The programmers I know for SL would help me in the drop of a hat because A:I know each of them more then 5 years and B:I'm a friend and friends don't charge each other to do stuff.

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You "don't have much more" than about $7.50 to spend on a domain. You can't even eat the cost of the bitcard domain name. I'm sure your casino will be fantastically successful. I look forward to the first customer winning a 'huge' 2 BTC and you threatening them with a restraining order because you can't pay them until you speak to your wife and she loans you some cash generated from a few SL cyber/phonesex jobs.
Actually If I really wanted to I could just let the bitcard domain slip into oblivion and say the hell with it. It's bought and paid for in full. So I want to sell it, it's my right. I paid $12 for it as it's a godaddy domain. Big whoop. I look at this way. Either op sells it to me or I go and register a domain and do it myself. Either way a online casino will be built.

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September 27, 2011, 08:45:56 PM
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If I've learned anything from these forums, it's that the first thing I need to do is proclaim myself CEO of my company. I'll worry about setting it up and all the other little details later - I'm an ideas guy.
Logansryche, I took the liberty of making you a business card to help you get started:



You'll notice that I tried to adapt it to your style as much as possible, which is the kind of quality you can only expect out of such a premium service such as mine.  Notice the comic sans?  I thought it was a nice fit.  Since that took me 7 hours to make and upload, you now owe me 3BTC.  If you doubt the time I spent on it I will upload a picture of the post it note where I wrote down all the times.  That will probably take me another 3 hours, though, since I'll need to upload it in small parts, so at that point you'd owe me another 2BTC, which I calculate as a 10% markup.

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You'll notice that I tried to adapt it to your style as much as possible, which is the kind of quality you can only expect out of such a premium service such as mine.  Notice the comic sans?  I thought it was a nice fit.  Since that took me 7 hours to make and upload, you now owe me 3BTC.  If you doubt the time I spent on it I will upload a picture of the post it note where I wrote down all the times.  That will probably take me another 3 hours, though, since I'll need to upload it in small parts, so at that point you'd owe me another 2BTC, which I calculate as a 10% markup.
Atlas if I want business cards I'll have vistaprint print me up some. Cards are crap unless there's a business behind em.
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Cards are crap unless there's a business behind em.
So are domains. And off-the-shelf shopping carts.

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Well seeing how the programers I know for SL I made friends with from one group or another, the goal is still the same. The programmers I know for SL would help me in the drop of a hat because A:I know each of them more then 5 years and B:I'm a friend and friends don't charge each other to do stuff.
Hi, friends. Please do hundreds of hours of work for me. I can't pay you, but we're friends, right?  Grin

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September 27, 2011, 09:32:32 PM
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Either way a online casino will be built.

What's stopping you from starting to build it now before getting a domain name like a normal person would?
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September 27, 2011, 09:52:53 PM
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Either way a online casino will be built.

What's stopping you from starting to build it now before getting a domain name like a normal person would?


It's us. We're keeping him from building his casino empire.
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September 27, 2011, 10:29:51 PM
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1.5 BTC? Why that's a pathetic amount of money to bid on a domain! Insultingly low! A man of integrity and with true intentions to build a venture should be willing to bid more than 10, or 20, or more! I would myself, if I so cared. And in truth, when an entrepreneurial opportunity comes up, I frequently salivate at the thought of it, itching to contain myself. There really is nothing more satisfying that hard work to the accomplishment of industry. However, there is only such honor and satisfaction in proper business, and gambling is no proper business, so far as I'm concerned. Best of luck to whomever undertakes this venture with the integrity it deserves, and bully for your effort, but I must draw myself out of it.
Well I would bid more but I can't so I won't. I bid what I can spend. You would too.


Then I would urge the current owner of playcasinobtc.com to reconsider selling the domain to someone who cannot pay what it is worth. I advise him or her to wait for a serious offer from someone with serious capital. After all, if you cannot even afford to present an offer that admits the current owner some modicum of dignity, how do you hope to afford the considerable expenses of beginning a successful business? And of all businesses, a casino?

Original poster, hold out for a better offer. Some worthier entrepreneur with real ambition will offer well for your domain.

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September 27, 2011, 10:34:26 PM
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no one's offered higher then 1.5btc, let's see if anyone does, shall we?
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After all, if you cannot even afford to present an offer that admits the current owner some modicum of dignity, how do you hope to afford the considerable expenses of beginning a successful business?

Did you by any chance read the thread about logansryche's miserable failure at running a trading card store, which involved the only sale he ever made going south because he didn't actually have the merchandise, and he didn't have enough cash on hand to process a refund (which would have been about $10)?
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Did you by any chance read the thread about logansryche's miserable failure at running a trading card store, which involved the only sale he ever made going south because he didn't actually have the merchandise, and he didn't have enough cash on hand to process a refund (which would have been about $10)?

That's not technically true... guy down in texas did actually buy a bulbasaur off me because he wanted to introduce his cousin into pokemon. He bought off me for a dollar and that included shipping. What got me in so much trouble was those damn gift cards. Live and learn,right? Not bring up past and smudge it in my face infront of everyone.
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September 27, 2011, 10:59:17 PM
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That's not technically true... guy down in texas did actually buy a bulbasaur off me because he wanted to introduce his cousin into pokemon.

I stand corrected... your second transaction.  Good to hear.

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Live and learn,right? Not bring up past and smudge it in my face infront of everyone.

Well, if you want the truth, I think it's kind of important for anyone considering whether to frequent your online casino to know the history.  I certainly wouldn't trust you to pay out any winnings after that sad showing in the other thread.
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Well, if you want the truth, I think it's kind of important for anyone considering whether to frequent your online casino to know the history.  I certainly wouldn't trust you to pay out any winnings after that sad showing in the other thread.

Well seeing how the system would be automated...
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Well seeing how the system would be automated...

...it would automatically send the "sorry, we don't have enough money to pay out your winnings" messages?
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thanks for again taking my words out of context.
Lets say you walk up to a slot machine and hit the jackpot.
Instead of myself or one of the staff manually paying you, an automated system would automatically pay you.
I'm surprised you didn't use common sense instead of poking at me.
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thanks for again taking my words out of context.
Lets say you walk up to a slot machine and hit the jackpot.
Instead of myself or one of the staff manually paying you, an automated system would automatically pay you.
I'm surprised you didn't use common sense instead of poking at me.

I don't think you understand.

You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
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I don't think you understand.
You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
Well seeing how the system would be set up very much how the marketplace idea I had was, paying folks won't be a problem.
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I don't think you understand.
You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
Well seeing how the system would be set up very much how the marketplace idea I had was, paying folks won't be a problem.
Pyramid schemes are illegal
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Well seeing how the system would be set up very much how the marketplace idea I had was, paying folks won't be a problem.

I don't understand how this has anything to do with answering the point I made. Please explain more about this marketplace idea, and how successful was it?

Also, have you looked into your state gambling laws, and if so, will you be complying with them?
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I don't think you understand.
You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
Well seeing how the system would be set up very much how the marketplace idea I had was, paying folks won't be a problem.
Pyramid schemes are illegal

As is running an online casino in the US.  Cheesy
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Pyramid schemes are illegal

Oh look who decides to show his face after being silent for a whole week.
Fine. I'll back off. There, I'm done.
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I don't think you understand.
You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
Well seeing how the system would be set up very much how the marketplace idea I had was, paying folks won't be a problem.

This man does not understand how capital, cash flow and reserves work.  PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF A CASINO.

I for one love to play at casinos where winning a hand of blackjack gets me a post-it with IOU $15 scribbled on it.

Do you know what it's like to be built this way?
With only the power to push others away?
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This man does not understand how capital, cash flow and reserves work.  PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF A CASINO.

I for one love to play at casinos where winning a hand of blackjack gets me a post-it with IOU $15 scribbled on it.
You apparently lack reading skills or you would have read I backed off.
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Pyramid schemes are illegal

Oh look who decides to show his face after being silent for a whole week.
Fine. I'll back off. There, I'm done.
You ignored four of my PMs.
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]You ignored four of my PMs.
You mean the ones I never got? Not my fault.
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]You ignored four of my PMs.
You mean the ones I never got? Not my fault.

Logansryche antagonizing people and more not my fault isn't going to earn you any respect i'd suggest you withdraw your offers and let this thread continue on without you.
The rest of you this is a sale thread allow it to return to it's relevant topic you can verbally abuse people in the off topic section all you want.
anything not related to this,
I was originally gonna develop a casino. Got too lazy to.

domain's up for sale to the highest bidder.

Should be ignored. By my account the current high bid is .3BTC by terrytibbs all following bids were in response to logansryche

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]You ignored four of my PMs.
You mean the ones I never got? Not my fault.

Logansryche antagonizing people and more not my fault isn't going to earn you any respect i'd suggest you withdraw your offers and let this thread continue on without you.
The rest of you this is a sale thread allow it to return to it's relevant topic you can verbally abuse people in the off topic section all you want.
anything not related to this,
I was originally gonna develop a casino. Got too lazy to.

domain's up for sale to the highest bidder.

Should be ignored. By my account the current high bid is .3BTC by terrytibbs all following bids were in response to logansryche

Actually if you read a few posts up, I did.
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September 29, 2011, 01:58:12 AM
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Most of the programmers I met in SL code servers for the likes of IBM.
Anyhow, here's my max. 1.5btc I do have more then that, just not much more.

I'll sell you Casinobitcoins.com for 1.5BTC:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=46073.0
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I don't think you understand.

You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
It's very simple.  When you make a bet and the Bitcoin transfer clears (2-3 days), logansryche will drive to the nearest Indian casino and put the money where you said.  If you win, he collects the winnings, converts them into Bitcoins, and sends them to you.  If he's smart, he'll take a small percentage (maybe 10%) to cover his expenses.

I don't see what's so hard about this.

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I don't think you understand.

You have made it clear many times that you have access to very little money if any. Let us say that the very first person who plays at your casino wins a 50BTC jackpot. How are you going to pay them? Where will the funds come from?
It's very simple.  When you make a bet and the Bitcoin transfer clears (2-3 days), logansryche will drive to the nearest Indian casino and put the money where you said.  If you win, he collects the winnings, converts them into Bitcoins, and sends them to you.  If he's smart, he'll take a small percentage (maybe 10%) to cover his expenses.

I don't see what's so hard about this.

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