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July 01, 2018, 11:27:32 PM
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This is also a problem in our local, there are many good posters there and sharing facts and ideas but few people gives merits.
They didn't know that it is hard to create contents and they didn't support each other.

Some of the high rank members don't want to give some merits because they're happy farming bounties. They forget where they started (local) so they're living happily with their money.

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July 01, 2018, 11:40:01 PM
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This is also a problem in our local, there are many good posters there and sharing facts and ideas but few people gives merits.
They didn't know that it is hard to create contents and they didn't support each other.
Does your local board have a merit source? If you can tell a good quality post that deserves merits, you may apply as a merit source. That will certainly make things better, wouldn't it?

Some of the high rank members don't want to give some merits because they're happy farming bounties. They forget where they started (local) so they're living happily with their money.
That doesn't make any sense. Should you come across any proof of someone doing it, you should report them. Just posting theories here isn't going to help anyone.

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July 02, 2018, 12:04:37 AM
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Some of the high rank members don't want to give some merits because they're happy farming bounties. They forget where they started (local) so they're living happily with their money.
As a fellow citizen, I will speak for the sake of our fellow High ranked Members. How can you assure that they're not giving merits? Just because you can't see anyone from our local high rank members distributing merits in posts in our local board? Yeah it's a little bit unfair but I'm sure that they still distribute their merits, maybe not to us from our local but in other members of this forum from different country. I think it will be too much unfair if they only give merits to members from our local board whilst there are people in other places who deserves merits as well. Distributing merits doesn't depend on what country or local board you belong, it depends on the quality of posts of members who will be distributed.
Also, you should consider what Mr. Joel_Jantsen said.

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This is also a problem in our local, there are many good posters there and sharing facts and ideas but few people gives merits.
They didn't know that it is hard to create contents and they didn't support each other.
But I do agree to this one. Yeah, there are really some good posts/threads in our local board that takes (I guess) days to complete but only receives less than 5 Merits (which is somehow enough I guess, but posters have different expectations of number of merits they're expecting to receive). They are very informative, unique and full of effort as well. But don't worry, as long as I have sMerits to send, I won't hesitate to merit it.

I'm afraid that I may not fulfill my full responsibility if happens that I became a merit source. I don't really like failures from my own hands, that's why I'll pass from it.


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July 02, 2018, 06:09:35 AM
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I don't think replying gets you any merit points though, there are good threads with tons of replies, not many scroll through all the posts and read them. Everyone usually reads between 3-10 pages and that's all, what if someone on page 100 had a good opinion on-topic, who will merit that one?
It depends on the thread. If it's a Spam Megathread where thousands of people repeat the same thing over and over again, it should be trashed, not rewarded. You're already saying nobody is going to read the thread, which means you shouldn't reply there.
On the other hand, if it's an informative thread and on page 976 the OP posts the biggest news in a long time, I give it 5 Merit, because I think everybody who sees the thread should read that post.

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I understand that the merit system was created to stop spammers and shit-posters, but what about real posters that just say their 2 cents about a topic and that's it? I mean why does a post need to be 1000 lines with 10 million arguments(I probably exaggerated here:) to be considered a good quality post?
A good post can be just one word.

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July 02, 2018, 07:17:17 AM
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This is also a problem in our local, there are many good posters there and sharing facts and ideas but few people gives merits.
They didn't know that it is hard to create contents and they didn't support each other.

Some of the high rank members don't want to give some merits because they're happy farming bounties. They forget where they started (local) so they're living happily with their money.

I’m not sure about that, there’s many other reasons why people have slowed up handing out Merit. Have a read through the thread.




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One of the downsides of the merit system is that many members see it as a payment for posting. As a result of this, they tend to write posts in the expectation of being rewarded for their efforts. You should enjoy the interaction and information exchange in the Bitcoin Talk forum, and not look on membership as a career choice.

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July 02, 2018, 08:51:59 AM
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One of the downsides of the merit system is that many members see it as a payment for posting. As a result of this, they tend to write posts in the expectation of being rewarded for their efforts. You should enjoy the interaction and information exchange in the Bitcoin Talk forum, and not look on membership as a career choice.

well in the end it still boils down to the same problem as before. That is the reason why i don't like the idea of having such merit sources. Well as reality do always comes up to why people or users stays in this forum to gain something more than knowledge and that is why people should always hope to be rewarded by their efforts on every posts even if there are still no real discussions happening

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A lot of great ideas are spawned in chill-out threads. It's the sycophantic spamming that is annoying, and it is never original.

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I do agree on what have others have said about more and more members are now focused on writing quality content and expecting to receive a merit that they tend to forget to send sMerits themselves or they are just purposely keeping their sMerits as their is no kind of consequence whatsoever on just keeping it away. Also we cannot force them on handing out their sMerits just for the purpose of increasing the merits being given in the forum, it would give a horrible effect on the merit system overall. There is no clear solution for this one as the way I see it we cannot satisfy both cleaning the forum from spammers and shitposters and at the same time make worthy members rank up fast by receiving a considerable amount of merits regularly.

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I don't think replying gets you any merit points though, there are good threads with tons of replies, not many scroll through all the posts and read them. Everyone usually reads between 3-10 pages and that's all, what if someone on page 100 had a good opinion on-topic, who will merit that one?
It depends on the thread. If it's a Spam Megathread where thousands of people repeat the same thing over and over again, it should be trashed, not rewarded. You're already saying nobody is going to read the thread, which means you shouldn't reply there.
On the other hand, if it's an informative thread and on page 976 the OP posts the biggest news in a long time, I give it 5 Merit, because I think everybody who sees the thread should read that post.

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I understand that the merit system was created to stop spammers and shit-posters, but what about real posters that just say their 2 cents about a topic and that's it? I mean why does a post need to be 1000 lines with 10 million arguments(I probably exaggerated here:) to be considered a good quality post?
A good post can be just one word.

I've seen good threads with lots of pages too, let's face it... nobody reads more than a bunch of pages... maybe 1 or 2 persons that really read whole pages of a thread.

P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please Smiley

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July 04, 2018, 06:11:40 AM
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P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please Smiley
I started following that thread when it had 400 pages. Since then, I've read about 95% of the posts. Let's say I've read 450 out of 976 pages by now.
That's the difference between just dumping a post in a Spam Megathread, and actually caring for the content of a thread.

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July 04, 2018, 07:06:44 AM
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I'm a bit sad today, yesterday I deleted the Italian board in the Fit to Talk English project. A quality translated post was guaranteed to earn at least 5 merits, if it was of sufficient quality to be posted in Ivory Tower. The board didn't have a single post or expression of interest, and this is despite the fact that Italian language speakers have been complaining about the shortage of merits for them.

As I've posted many times, there is no shortage of merits, and don't forget that every two merits awarded creates another merit for the community to award. The fact that they are not being awarded recklessly shows that the community is taking a responsible attitude towards the merit system.

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July 04, 2018, 08:43:43 PM
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P.S. Please don't tell me that you will read till page 976 of a thread or whatever big number page, just, please ... ok? * I know 976 was just an example, but ... please Smiley
I started following that thread when it had 400 pages. Since then, I've read about 95% of the posts. Let's say I've read 450 out of 976 pages by now.
That's the difference between just dumping a post in a Spam Megathread, and actually caring for the content of a thread.

Yeah, I fully understand, but I already mentioned that 1 or 2 people read so many pages from a thread, my bad, you might be the third one Smiley

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July 05, 2018, 01:46:48 AM
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@jet native speakers can really feel the effect of the merit system. Tho even if theymos created it to fix the spam problem. We still also cannot deny the fact that it still also has a lot of negative effects since there are really quality posts that are not being recognized. Tho, I think that is just healthy since anytime or sooner that can still be recognized. Unlike the abusing of merit which really sucks.


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July 24, 2018, 07:21:30 PM
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Holding merits and not giving it out is a thing I don't really understand why it's like that but I recently noticed that it's not the fault of the high rank members not giving merits even when you post constructive and meaningful post. Because there are some who are just here to red those high rank account sorry to say that, so I believe that's the reason why most of them are extremely careful when it comes to merit issues because no one what's is btt account to be affected with red!

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July 24, 2018, 07:45:22 PM
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A good post can be just one word.
Yep, and I've been known to merit funny meme posts.  One-word or one-picture posts worthy of merit are more the exception than the rule here, however.  With most posts being total garbage, really witty, clever, or funny posts are a pleasant rarity.

We still also cannot deny the fact that it still also has a lot of negative effects since there are really quality posts that are not being recognized.
The forum definitely needs more merit sources, and ones that cover under-merited sections especially.  On the other hand, people with sMerits to give out don't want to lower their standards too much, and I'd say that really good posts DO get merits eventually.  Sometimes it takes a bit before people notice posts.  And if a member consistently writes quality stuff, he'll eventually get merits.

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July 24, 2018, 08:27:31 PM
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I've just looked in my merit wallet, and I've got 160 sMerits to award ( please note that I didn't say "give away"). That's 32 people from the local boards who could pick up 5 merits each, if they submitted one post to my translation project. It must be over a month since somebody submitted a post. In most cases other members award merits to the posts as well, so 5 is really just the start.

I've been spending so much time looking for meritable posts, that my other activities have started to suffer, and I've had to back off a bit. I've also tried to improve my search efficiency, If I am looking at the beginners board, then I start with page 5, almost everything before that is bumped up crap. If you guys want to earn some merits for decent posts, then stop the beggars and thieves that are driving away the people who want to help you.

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July 24, 2018, 10:59:34 PM
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I am not sure about the new merit in invent as it is now, this will be an additional lesson for all of us, essentially do not be lazy to read and find out about the information contained in this forum.

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July 24, 2018, 11:17:29 PM
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I would rather look for merit and give smerit by following my signature program  and looking for quality posts when I open one of the topics and read it carefully

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I've just looked in my merit wallet, and I've got 160 sMerits to award ( please note that I didn't say "give away"). That's 32 people from the local boards who could pick up 5 merits each, if they submitted one post to my translation project. It must be over a month since somebody submitted a post. In most cases other members award merits to the posts as well, so 5 is really just the start.

I've been spending so much time looking for meritable posts, that my other activities have started to suffer, and I've had to back off a bit. I've also tried to improve my search efficiency, If I am looking at the beginners board, then I start with page 5, almost everything before that is bumped up crap. If you guys want to earn some merits for decent posts, then stop the beggars and thieves that are driving away the people who want to help you.
how do you earn sMerits? i have been on this board and never earned any sMerits after they came up with new merit system.I just dont understand how it works.
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