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July 08, 2018, 07:18:09 AM
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I've also just received a reimbursement from TF. Thank you so much. This will pay for food on the table.

But not the 75BTC he owed you, right?  Just enough to make you happy so he can scam you again?

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July 08, 2018, 07:41:23 AM
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Important warning

It has just come to my attention that scammer has impersonated me and communicated to a user as the 'man in the middle'. The scammer was using TradeFortress@protonmail.com, and passed along proof (such as signed messages, etc) from the actual user to me.

They were able to convince the actual user to email me at my admin @ glados.cc email, to establish verification. A reimbursement was unfortunately paid to this scammer.

Due to this, please be aware that:

- You must always email me from the address associated with your account. No exceptions
- All my bitcointalk PMs will come from this account, TradeFortress. No other users are legitimate.
- All my emails will come from admin+g [at] glados.cc; and will be DKIM signed by Google/Gmail (who hosts my email)
- Any email that is not from glados.cc is illegitimate and not from me
- You may still reach me using cl [at] tfbtct.e4ward.com or admin+g [at] glados.cc
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July 08, 2018, 07:55:48 AM
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Are you willing to accept a signed message that says “this is [user name] from CL and I would like the proceeds from my settlement sent to [address]” (or something similar but still specific)

The above is specific enough to not be vulnerable to a MITM and should allow for situations in which users no longer have access to old email addresses.

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July 08, 2018, 08:00:34 AM
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Are you willing to accept a signed message that says “this is [user name] from CL and I would like the proceeds from my settlement sent to [address]” (or something similar but still specific)

The above is specific enough to not be vulnerable to a MITM and should allow for situations in which users no longer have access to old email addresses.

LOL.   Are you talking to yourself, or is TF a separate person that you scammed 20btc from?

TF doesn't seem too concerned about returning that 20btc to his investors....

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Are you willing to accept a signed message that says “this is [user name] from CL and I would like the proceeds from my settlement sent to [address]” (or something similar but still specific)

The above is specific enough to not be vulnerable to a MITM and should allow for situations in which users no longer have access to old email addresses.

That will only help with a situation where someone does not have access to the old email. In this case, they did, the scammer just pretended to be me and got the actual accountholder to email me using their email.

(In this case, I spoke to the accountholder on the phone and was able to get their correct bitcoin address; and they will still be receiving their reimbursement).

A signed message from most addresses proves nothing; it'll have to be an address that you used to deposit to CL/Inputs; but even if so I'm not able to match it with the actual user.

If someone no longer has access to their old email addresses; a very stringent verification process can be used. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
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July 08, 2018, 08:12:37 AM
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LOL.   Are you talking to yourself, or is TF a separate person that you scammed 20btc from?

TF doesn't seem too concerned about returning that 20btc to his investors....

1. Vod is now on my ignore list. Go distract people somewhere else.

2. I am not Quickseller.

3. Quickseller has returned to me the 20 BTC years ago.
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July 08, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
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2. I am not Quickseller.

3. Quickseller has returned to me the 20 BTC years ago.

See?  Without the transaction trail (which you and QS always post), you are nothing but a liar.   Wink


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July 09, 2018, 05:56:59 AM
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i have contacted TF for coinlenders/inputs refund today.  TF replied funds will be transferred to me within 7 days.
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July 09, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
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That will only help with a situation where someone does not have access to the old email. In this case, they did, the scammer just pretended to be me and got the actual accountholder to email me using their email.

(In this case, I spoke to the accountholder on the phone and was able to get their correct bitcoin address; and they will still be receiving their reimbursement).
Is it possible the accountholder played you to receive double the funds?


I wasn't around in 2013, but I'm curious enough to follow this case now.

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July 11, 2018, 07:48:15 AM
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That will only help with a situation where someone does not have access to the old email. In this case, they did, the scammer just pretended to be me and got the actual accountholder to email me using their email.

(In this case, I spoke to the accountholder on the phone and was able to get their correct bitcoin address; and they will still be receiving their reimbursement).
Is it possible the accountholder played you to receive double the funds?


I wasn't around in 2013, but I'm curious enough to follow this case now.

I'm very confident that the accountholder is not the same person as the scammer.


Was able to send another round of reimbursements just then.
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July 11, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
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Wow... that's admirable.
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July 11, 2018, 10:18:16 AM
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I also received a large refund.
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July 12, 2018, 05:59:29 AM
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wow! i thought i already lost my coinlender/inputs investments years ago.  i was keeping silent during the last few days after TF promised to send back my funds.  i wasn't sure if TF was just trolling around or not.  upon checking my balance just now, wow!!! it's true.  my funds are sent back to me in full.  kudos to TF's courage to come out and settle old loans.
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July 12, 2018, 06:27:45 AM
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wow! i thought i already lost my coinlender/inputs investments years ago.  i was keeping silent during the last few days after TF promised to send back my funds.  i wasn't sure if TF was just trolling around or not.  upon checking my balance just now, wow!!! it's true.  my funds are sent back to me in full.  kudos to TF's courage to come out and settle old loans.

To clarify, the balance was reimbursed in full as it was a small balance Smiley Enjoy your BTC!

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and believe TradeFortress should be regarded as a bit of a hero as he really didn't need to do this and could just quietly have kept everyone's coins.

That is absolutely absurd. He ran away with the coins in the first place.
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July 13, 2018, 12:42:54 AM
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and believe TradeFortress should be regarded as a bit of a hero as he really didn't need to do this and could just quietly have kept everyone's coins.

That is absolutely absurd. He ran away with the coins in the first place.

Many people cannot see past their own selfish interests.  :/

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July 13, 2018, 09:09:15 AM
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TF contacted me via email and refunded me the remaining 70% of my CL balance a couple of days ago.  I have removed the negative trust rating I placed with his account years ago.   

I didn't see this thread until just now.   So he wasn't refunding me in response to a request from my end.  The CL debacle (and TF's "disappearance" shortly thereafter) was far from what anyone would consider "handled in an ideal way," but the fact that he's trying to make good on the mistakes of the past is really encouraging.  There have been so many scams and so much greed in the cryptocurrency community over the years...this result is practically the very last thing I would have expected to happen, today or any other day.

I had long written off the BTC I lost at CL as a "hard lesson learned," and nothing much more to say/think/hope for.  To say the least, this was a happy surprise indeed.


For reference purposes:

Back in 2013, TF offered a refund of approximately 30% of my CL balance...and I begrudgingly accepted.   (I had placed far too much of my BTC balance into Coinlenders, so after it was clear that we weren't going to have our balances refunded -- "cutting bait" and getting something rather than nothing seemed like the only viable option.)   

My balance was less than 10 BTC -- not much by some standards, but it was almost all of the BTC I had back then.   (Ah, the follies of youth.)  I can confirm that the amount TF refunded to me was (AFAICT) the correct amount to "make me whole" for the BTC that was lost on his service.   


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July 13, 2018, 03:51:35 PM
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Words of advice: During this time where TradeFortress will be trying to re-establish credibility for an upcoming scam, play nice, get as many of your scammed coins back as you can, and then never communicate with this account again. If he truly wants credibility re-established, he can wait 5 years after returning your coins just like you did.

Also, for the record, anyone who claims they are receiving anything should be posting transaction links.

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July 13, 2018, 10:43:29 PM
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Relax, I’m I will not be asking anyone for bitcoins in the future.
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July 14, 2018, 04:00:54 AM
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Relax, I’m I will not be asking anyone for bitcoins in the future.

Until he asks people for bitcoins in the future.  :/

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