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October 06, 2011, 02:40:38 PM
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I'm curious if they'll ask for 20% of price on borders...

Yes, they do collect VAT tax.
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October 06, 2011, 02:47:46 PM
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20% Huh?
You have to be kidding me.
You guys aren't mad???
I will mislabel the shit out of it if you want.
That is ridiculous.

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October 06, 2011, 02:49:08 PM
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Also, arent you buying it in bitcoins???
What is a 20% tax on fake money?
Say I sold it to you for a $1.

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October 06, 2011, 02:52:57 PM
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Very interested in this! Where are you located? Any shipping info yet?
Located in Sunny (its raining right now) Southern California Smiley
Great, I'm just two states east of you in New Mexico.

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October 06, 2011, 02:56:21 PM
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here are some people brainstorming about the VAT

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/forum/avoiding-vat-silver-europe/225

It looks like in small amounts you can avoid it or something. Haven't read it all yet.
Also if we use 90% silver American issued coins would it count as bullion? I dont think so.

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October 06, 2011, 02:56:57 PM
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Very interested in this! Where are you located? Any shipping info yet?
Located in Sunny (its raining right now) Southern California Smiley
Great, I'm just two states east of you in New Mexico.
Wow a buddy of mine moved there last week.
That would be pretty fast shipping form here to there Smiley

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October 06, 2011, 03:07:28 PM
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Gold and silver is different from view of taxes. Only gold have some exceptions, but I'm not sure if this exception is also for import from USA.

And no, I'm not mad. I bought GPU from some american guy for bitcoins and I still paid taxes, which was around 20% of card price. If they see lower price on box than it's "common", they will use "common" price for calculating VAT. So that trick with "selling 1oz gold for 1$" won't work Wink.

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October 06, 2011, 03:21:25 PM
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It is what it is I guess.
If you guys are used to it and ok with it, then the VAT is no big deal I guess.
I just feel bad I cant get you some deal that is better than you are used too.
Watch, if anyone can figure out how to avoid the unjust VAT, it's me.
Is the VAT so that you have to produce and acquire everything locally? If so then I respect that as a way to strengthen Europe.

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October 06, 2011, 03:34:20 PM
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If so then I respect that as a way to strengthen Europe.

No, that don't strenghten Europe. It only give more money to government for spending bilions for stupid things.

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October 06, 2011, 03:35:28 PM
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If you find something how to *not* pay VAT for gold, send me PM...

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October 06, 2011, 03:44:38 PM
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If so then I respect that as a way to strengthen Europe.

No, that don't strenghten Europe. It only give more money to government for spending bilions for stupid things.
Same as here.
If you find something how to *not* pay VAT for gold, send me PM...
I will Smiley

And of course if you want some bullion, I would be willing to send it to you. I should state that the customer pays all extra fees if we are including worldwide shipping now.


So just to bring it back on topic:

Silver/Gold for sale, PM me anytime.
Currently have access to plenty of generics and eagles.
To get things rolling I am selling a 1 oz. silver round in great condition for 7.5 BTC !



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October 06, 2011, 08:37:28 PM
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Ok here is a Item list of things I personally have for sale:

-1 oz. .999 Silver "Golden State Mint" Indian Round -



-1 oz. "Silver Trade Unit" Generic Round - Pic in above posts closely resembles it*

-(2) 40% Silver Kennedy Half Dollar's - These need no pic -

-(>3) Mexican Libertad 1/20 oz. .999 Silver Coin - RARE* - These are a little more than 1.5 grams of silver each and are government issue from Mexico.


GSM Indian Round - 8 BTC
Other Generic Round silver trade unit - 7.75 BTC
Kennedy Half Dollars - 1 BTC each
Mexican Libertad 1/20 oz. Silver Coin - At the moment these are about 1 BTC each, I just saw one go on ebay for about $11. Ask me if you are interested.

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October 06, 2011, 11:06:34 PM
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Just shipped out some of the 1/20 oz. silver Libertad's.
There are more but it is limited.

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October 07, 2011, 12:30:03 AM
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Ok,
No more on the 1.5 Gram mexican coins.
They are worth about 3 BTC each for the year I have so those who got a few at 1 btc each today, CONGRATS Smiley

If anyone wants some of these low mintage rare silver coins PM me, they will be full price + Free Shipping.
( http://www.apmex.com/Product/61239/2003_1_20_oz_Silver_Libertad_.aspx )

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October 07, 2011, 03:08:59 PM
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1/20 oz. .999 Silver Mexican Libertad's (RARE) 2003/2004~~~1/20 oz. .999 Silver Mexican Libertad's (RARE) 2003/2004

-3 BTC each includes shipping

http://www.apmex.com/Product/61239/2003_1_20_oz_Silver_Libertad_.aspx

Silver is going up again, up about 10% over just a couple days!

Generic Rounds of 1 oz. .999 Silver~~~Generic Rounds of 1 oz. .999 Silver~~~Generic Rounds of 1 oz. .999 Silver

- 8.1 - 8.75 BTC each + Shipping costs for more than 1
http://www.apmex.com/Category/1197/APMEX_Silver_Rounds.aspx

Silver is Going up, And BTC is going Down...

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October 07, 2011, 05:13:46 PM
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20% Huh?
You have to be kidding me.
You guys aren't mad???
I will mislabel the shit out of it if you want.
That is ridiculous.

Probably not the best idea to mention in a public forum but from my understanding the liability falls on the buyer.  I've had a few requests to sell silver without declaring it and decided it wasn't in my customer's best interests. 
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October 07, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
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20% Huh?
You have to be kidding me.
You guys aren't mad???
I will mislabel the shit out of it if you want.
That is ridiculous.

Probably not the best idea to mention in a public forum but from my understanding the liability falls on the buyer.  I've had a few requests to sell silver without declaring it and decided it wasn't in my customer's best interests.  
Well, I am not afraid to stand by my convictions, it is an unjust tax and we all know it.


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October 08, 2011, 12:37:13 AM
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Just to be clear:
I have not, nor has anyone asked me too mislabel a package.

Also,
Is there interest in a-
1,000 gram .999 Silver Commemorative Panda Round, yes that is 1 kilo of pure silver. (about 32.15 troy ounces)
It would be around 240 BTC -
I will put up some pics soon.

I will keep an updated list of items in the first post now too Smiley

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October 10, 2011, 02:21:44 AM
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Buying Gold and Silver ~
Let me know.

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October 12, 2011, 04:03:43 PM
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Just received my first round of Mexican Libertad coins.
Arrived very quickly and in great condition.

+1 excellent seller Cheesy

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