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July 06, 2018, 09:16:40 AM
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Reports about Hacked accounts and Banned accounts are increasing and I noticed that Meta is getting a little messy, threads about "How to get Merits" by newbies are additional threads which makes Meta looks so messed up and with this idea, this section will be somehow looks clean. I have this idea in mind that maybe it's time to make another sub board/child board here in Meta Section where issues about accounts will be held.

Herr are the pros of my idea:

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1. Meta will somehow become neat.
2. Account issues like hacked or banned will be compiled in one place.
3. It will be easier to find reports about account issues.

I have no Cons yet but you guys can provide if you have something in mind.

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July 06, 2018, 09:51:34 AM
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I think it's not necessary. Hacked and Banned accounts is problem between Mod and users so it would be solved via PM, mail. theymos also had a pinned thread about recovering hacked accounts on this Meta.
You're right about Merit threads but it was the problem of 4 months ago. I don't see to much threads about Merit now.  Another sub board/child board is not necessary and it's heavy work for theymos to apply it.
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July 06, 2018, 11:00:59 AM
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I think it's not necessary. Hacked and Banned accounts is problem between Mod and users so it would be solved via PM, mail. theymos also had a pinned thread about recovering hacked accounts on this Meta.
You're right about Merit threads but it was the problem of 4 months ago. I don't see to much threads about Merit now.  Another sub board/child board is not necessary and it's heavy work for theymos to apply it.
I got your point. But with this idea, all records/threads of Accounts issues will be compiled in one place which it will be easier to find than checking every pages of Meta just to look for a particular thread. I think there is no problem about the pinned thread as it can be move, right? I know it's a another work but if it's for the improvement of Forum, why not to try it?

Actually you we're right about the bold part of your post. But as a member of this forum, we should somehow help Moderators about this forum's problems as long as we can do something to help them. I know that we can't do anything to unban or recover a hacked account but by giving the banned user advices and helping Moderators to investigate and determine the hacker of the hacked account will somehow help them. So problem like these is not only between Mods and users, as part of the forum's community, it's also our responsibility to help. But consider that, you should only help if you think you can do something to solve the case Smiley

By the way still waiting for more suggestions.


Bonus. It's also a trap for spammers, I'm pretty sure that spammers will also post in the proposed sub/child board about topic that doesn't related in Account Issues, it's because they're not reading or checking where they were posting in short "Spamming". Anyone who post unrelated threads will be banned or something to punish them.

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July 06, 2018, 11:53:33 AM
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Actually you we're right about the bold part of your post.
Partially agree. It's a problem for me too when I fear that if someone compromise my account. If it happens then I will also have to go through the same long time process of recovering my account.

The idea of subboard/childboard could be a fairly good step instead of doing nothing about it. One topic per person (victims). Follow normal rules for bumping the topic. Once you get your main account back (resolved) then lock the topic (the user or the admin). Ban issues will not be allowed on that board.

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July 06, 2018, 11:58:12 AM
Last edit: July 06, 2018, 12:43:54 PM by pugman
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Already discussed and answer is no. Account issues aren't given much priority, in most cases. There are other major issues that needs to be taken care of. Account issues are also forum issues, hence they'll belong in meta only.

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July 06, 2018, 12:38:39 PM
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Meta is getting a bit clogged with threads that aim to get merits on their post, be it infographic, a beginner's guide, technicality resolution, all good, but the problem is a few threads are going through a repetitive process/content, already posted, discussed. Good thing, the whole context of a thread would have been discussed earlier, but newer posts with the same conclusion do something a bit different with the first post, conclusion is same, but effort has been put to present it somewhat differently, nothing like Bitcoin discussion/economics, pure randomness of human mind, but the bad thing is gaining on meta to put effort to gain merits through those posts. I really doubt beginners are grasping anything posted for their own good on beginners & help. Recycling such posts on meta would be a better option.

A few sloppy smart thieves have realized Alibaba & fourty thieves are in meta (ironical in a very broad sense)



As far as account issues, meta is the main section. Everything related to an account is reported/posted here. Child board would be asking for extra 100 files.



Account recovery is really an issue. Seriously members from 2011 to 2013, be it 2014 or 2015 weren't skimming through bounties. At least, old accounts (not being partial) deserve to get their accounts reinstated. Maybe they will also try to clean up all this mess. It could be added to priority list.
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July 06, 2018, 04:48:53 PM
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I do think meta is becoming messy. The incoming shitposters being banned come back and post about their ban, so, as more banned accounts we have, the more crying-for-the-ban post we are going to have.
So I totally agree with the idea.
Given the actual state of the forum and the number of banned accounts we can have per day, a dedicated board is becoming to be necessary from my perspective. Besides, there is an actual problem with hacked accounts, but, for those ones maybe this is fair for them to write in meta, because it will have more visibility and also some quotes from other users that can give credibility to the hacked one.
Whatever the admins decide, the state of meta need some solutions as fast as possible, we all are seeing how, step by step, this board can become another spam-fest space.
The process is always slow, but it is going to happen if measures are not taken, I'm afraid. If we get used to seeing this kind of post in here, if we just allow this, then it is probably going to become more and more "normal".
To "normalize" a bad situation means always the beginning of decay.

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July 06, 2018, 06:25:27 PM
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Already discussed
I born on December 14, 2017 reg date  Tongue - if you guys discussed about sub/child board for account issues then I surely missed it but if the discussion took place after my birth then it's hard for me to miss it. I guess this reference will be a bit satisfactory as an evidence for my claim  Grin  

By any chance, are you indication to this topic by Vod? In that case that was about "how to". Anyway, Never mind - I am messing around.  Smiley
I COULD miss it, it's impossible for someone to keep up with every updates.

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Yes, I remember - we discussed about it several times.


As far as account issues, meta is the main section. Everything related to an account is reported/posted here. Child board would be asking for extra 100 files.

I don't think filling some of these empty boxes with necessary child-board is gonna do any harm. Sure, meta is the board for discussing about the forum. If we can categories the same discussions (when necessity like account hack/lock rise) then won't it be easier to find.

Account recovery issues are now a daily part of the meta board. Every day there are new topics asking/even begging for account recovery. Members are waiting months to get back their account. Put yourself on their shoes. The experience will be extremely frustrating. Having a child-board which will only have topics related to account recovery would be nice IMO. I hope you did not miss reading this?
One topic per person (victims). Follow normal rules for bumping the topic. Once you get your main account back (resolved) then lock the topic (the user or the admin). Ban issues will not be allowed on that board.

In addition, once (if) we have the child-board then mod can move the topics "Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords" and "Stake your Bitcoin address here" to the new child-board and can make them sticky for better visibility. Anyone who will need to recover their account, they will find it handy. Everything will be in one place for the victims and for the admins, they won't have to go thought finding the PMs and public posts that gets buried under new and old PMs/topics.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong mate. I am always afraid of losing my account. It could happen with your too and anyone else - despite the extra care we take for our account.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
So, I am willingly locking mdayonliner. Thank you BitcoinTalk. Be addictive, be a Bitcoiner.
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July 07, 2018, 01:50:40 AM
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Since i'm relatively new in this forum, would you guys mind if i ask why are there so much account issues? Was this the negligence of the owner? If that's the case, the forum has no fault in it right? And therefore don't need to address that matter. And for those banned accounts, well unbanning can be addressed provided that it was reasoned out.

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July 07, 2018, 02:23:50 AM
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Account recovery issues are now a daily part of the meta board. Every day there are new topics asking/even begging for account recovery. Members are waiting months to get back their account. Put yourself on their shoes. The experience will be extremely frustrating. Having a child-board which will only have topics related to account recovery would be nice IMO. I hope you did not miss reading this?
One topic per person (victims). Follow normal rules for bumping the topic. Once you get your main account back (resolved) then lock the topic (the user or the admin). Ban issues will not be allowed on that board.

In addition, once (if) we have the child-board then mod can move the topics "Recovering hacked accounts or accounts with lost passwords" and "Stake your Bitcoin address here" to the new child-board and can make them sticky for better visibility. Anyone who will need to recover their account, they will find it handy. Everything will be in one place for the victims and for the admins, they won't have to go thought finding the PMs and public posts that gets buried under new and old PMs/topics.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong mate. I am always afraid of losing my account. It could happen with your too and anyone else - despite the extra care we take for our account.

I do agree. The one's that got their accounts hacked and having to go through Meta proving it is/would be a really frustrating process. Child board for account recovery is a good idea as far as there is a mod appointed to handle account recovery otherwise we are just taking a part of meta moving it to a small one to let it grow and clutter, as the same it was before moving.
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July 07, 2018, 04:56:17 AM
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So I totally agree with the idea.
Given the actual state of the forum and the number of banned accounts we can have per day, a dedicated board is becoming to be necessary from my perspective.
Yeah, I also believed that we need a sub/child board for issues like these, I came up to this idea because I noticed that the number of accounts issues are getting larger day by day and I'm afraid that good topics might get covered by these account issues threads.
I believed that this idea will somehow help the forum to look better Smiley
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Whatever the admins decide, the state of meta need some solutions as fast as possible, we all are seeing how, step by step, this board can become another spam-fest space.

I agree, looking at the state of meta, we can obviously notice that spams posts as well as spammers are all over the board, it's not impossible that Meta become a spam fest later on if no immediate actions.

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if you guys discussed about sub/child board for account issues then I surely missed it

Yeah, I'm sorry pugman but I didn't know that this topic has been discussed before, I used the search function before I posted this topic but I have no luck to find anything.

By the way, by reading how mdayonliner posted his opinions make me thinks that he is the Original Poster. Thanks for defending the idea buddy  Grin
I won't do anything like this if it will only do any harm to the forum. However it's just my idea, it's just my suggestion and It's okay if majority of the votes won't agree with this.

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I don't think filling some of these empty boxes with necessary child-board is gonna do any harm. Sure, meta is the board for discussing about the forum. If we can categories the same discussions (when necessity like account hack/lock rise) then won't it be easier to find.

I believed it's harder/difficult  Tongue


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July 07, 2018, 09:54:54 AM
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By the way, by reading how mdayonliner posted his opinions make me thinks that he is the Original Poster. Thanks for defending the idea buddy  Grin
I am not defending you, I am actually trying to save my ass, this whole thing is related to my (everyone's as well) own account security. I have raised concerns about it several times. i.e:
(Thanks ETFbitcoin)

So, when I see someone is talking about it then I always make sure that I am giving my feedback with valid facts. I realize, for me - it will be a very hard and long journey to recover my account if anything unpleasant happen with it.

By the way, thank YOU to bring up the idea at the first place.

I could not stand the lies against me anymore. I can not prove them wrong too. It's better I live in peace.
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August 12, 2018, 06:29:21 AM
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Meta is becoming flooded by account issues and several discussions started to get covered by these banned/hacked account threads. I feel like Meta is getting a little messy and, are we not really going to make some implementation like this? Some members already agreed to it and there is really nothing bad to make a separated board for Account Issues. Oh I bumped the thread, I'm just thinking that maybe this is a good time to discuss about this kind of idea again.

Yeah, those account issues really belongs to Meta as it is also a forum's issue but, the board I'm talking about will still be in Meta so it is still part of Meta section. The good benefit is all of those threads will be compiled in one Board and there's really nothing bad about it, but of course, it will be another work for Admin to apply.

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Yeah, those account issues really belongs to Meta as it is also a forum's issue but, the board I'm talking about will still be in Meta so it is still part of Meta section. The good benefit is all of those threads will be compiled in one Board and there's really nothing bad about it, but of course, it will be another work for Admin to apply.
I don't think that child board for account related issues is really needed. I prefer to find everything what is related to Meta find in single place. Yes, there are many threads about hacked and banned accounts, but you can just skip these topics if you're not interested, on Meta you don't have to go through 10 pages of threads to find something interested for you like on some boards.
And theymos are planning to launch automated account recovery system, then we would see less threads about hacked accounts. Leg's hope it will be released faster than new forum software Cheesy




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