[ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]

[thefunkybits]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Specs?

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[klondike_bar]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Specs?

+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

[WildFire.ca]

It's nice to see some progress Ken, keep up the good work.

[sparky999]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

@ken Nice to see some progress, can you please confirm these are AMC/VMC prototype 28nm full custom chips?

[thefunkybits]

+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

Seeing as you are a fairly knowledgeable hobby miner, would a retail ready machine hash with such volatility?
Do you think it's plausible that the variance in the hashrate is due to this being a "demo board" with some kinks yet to be worked out?

This seems like a very reasonable excuse for Ken not to be providing chip specs for the time being until everything is fine tuned and stable. Ken, if this is the case (or something similar) please just let us know. Some transparency on this issue would go a long way for most of us.

[Mabsark]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Now create another account and put the old miners on it so we can see the two side by side, proving that you're not just using the old miners.

[thefunkybits]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Now create another account and put the old miners on it so we can see the two side by side, proving that you're not just using the old miners.

Here you go idiot:



Ken please bend over backwards, touch your toes, do 5 jumping jacks and run 12 laps around the VMC office. Thanks!

[klondike_bar]

+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

Seeing as you are a fairly knowledgeable hobby miner, would a retail ready machine hash with such volatility?
Do you think it's plausible that the variance in the hashrate is due to this being a "demo board" with some kinks yet to be worked out?

This seems like a very reasonable excuse for Ken not to be providing chip specs for the time being until everything is fine tuned and stable. Ken, if this is the case (or something similar) please just let us know. Some transparency on this issue would go a long way for most of us.

looking at the stats, it could be a dev board - it looks like hashrate made a shift from 460->490 GH after a few hours.  the weird variance looks like the miner is doing high-difficulty submissions rather than kinks or other issues unless the miner is creating massive (up to 10%) error rates to cause such a spread in hashrate peaks/dips.

either way - the device needs to submit shares at a lower difficulty in order to be a cleaner 15/30 minute chart. after a few hours the 3hr and 12hr averages will be pretty informative though

[klondike_bar]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Now create another account and put the old miners on it so we can see the two side by side, proving that you're not just using the old miners.

Here you go idiot:



Ken please bend over backwards, touch your toes, do 5 jumping jacks and run 12 laps around the VMC office. Thanks!

moving the miners to eligius is not the chore you make it seem. it is quick and could be done either on the same user account with a different worker, or a different account altogether (not necessary)

also, ken said in the past he operates ~737GH of avalon gear. its odd that only 430GH is at btc guild right now - but nonetheless meaningless without anything to further explain a relatively small amount of hashrate that could reasily consist of 3 antminers or less

[shaofis]

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Early Prototype Development Board

Ken,

Please confirm the source of the chips... are they from another vendor? The longer you put off answering the more suspicious it looks.

Can you confirm the status of Intellihash? Does this generation of hardware utilize the technology? There was a fair amount of hype on this technology... just curious the status as we haven't heard much about it in months.

Shao

[thefunkybits]

moving the miners to eligius is not the chore you make it seem. it is quick and could be done either on the same user account with a different worker, or a different account altogether (not necessary)

Mab was asking for proof of our old hash which is in the exact same place its always been (minus 300GH?)

[kslaughter]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Now create another account and put the old miners on it so we can see the two side by side, proving that you're not just using the old miners.

Why don't you just do this, look at the old miners on BTCGuild and the new miner on eligius. 

[kslaughter]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Specs?

+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

That is what you should see, this is our first prototype board off of the line.  We are building more.

[drawingthesun]

Thanks Ken. Things are starting to brighten up around here.

[sporket]

How about some pics?  Don't ya wanna show off ur handiwork?

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+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

Seeing as you are a fairly knowledgeable hobby miner, would a retail ready machine hash with such volatility?
Do you think it's plausible that the variance in the hashrate is due to this being a "demo board" with some kinks yet to be worked out?

This seems like a very reasonable excuse for Ken not to be providing chip specs for the time being until everything is fine tuned and stable. Ken, if this is the case (or something similar) please just let us know. Some transparency on this issue would go a long way for most of us.

I said it was a prototype board.  Prototype board are not production quality.  We are tweaking this board for the best speed possible.  We will apply the tweaks to our production quality boards which will be coming off the production line this week.  We expect that this version of our production boards will run @ ~600 GH/s.  

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are we using 28nm chips in our boards?

Would love to know the answer if you are able to say

Yes, we are using 28nm chips in our new boards.

[Silverspoon]

Hey Ken, whose chips are you using?

[klondike_bar]

Development board running here:

Early Prototype Development Board

Specs?

+1. all i see is relatively small hashrate with some crazy variance going on - looks like vardiff>1024 using <500GH

That is what you should see, this is our first prototype board off of the line.  We are building more.

still not an answer. I could certainly adjust one of my antminer to run at 1024 difficulty and point it at eligius - the graph would look almost the same but average around 190GH rather than ~460GH like yours. I could add my 260GH bitfury though (also setting difficulty >1000) and get hashrate and variance like yours.

1) whats the chip - actm 28nm or something like the coincraft A1?
2) why will you not share a single picture? One picture of a board with chip(s?) on it would satisfy much of my concern. pointing your finger towards two different pools with less than 1TH of combined hashrate is meaningless - its known that you already had >730Gh of avalon equipment (300Gh of which is missing from btcguild?)

[Silverspoon]

When Labcoin was "mining," people were watching eligius charts.  Discussing variance, interpreting dips as thermal issues...