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Question: Is Democracy a bad idea?  (Voting closed: October 02, 2011, 03:09:36 PM)
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September 30, 2011, 03:09:36 PM
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Basic question. This will clear it up once and for all. Is Democracy a bad idea?

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September 30, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
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Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

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September 30, 2011, 03:34:35 PM
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Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Would be so much fairer if it was 2 sheep and 1 wolf and if there was no vote?

Sigh.

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September 30, 2011, 03:39:07 PM
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Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Would be so much fairer if it was 2 sheep and 1 wolf and if there was no vote?

Sigh.

Yes. The decision would be "grass".

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September 30, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
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Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Would be so much fairer if it was 2 sheep and 1 wolf and if there was no vote?

Sigh.

Yes. The decision would be "grass".

You haven't thought that through.  If there is no vote, the answer is mutton.

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September 30, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
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From the democratic vote, democracy is losing.

Those who like democracy must accept that it is a bad idea.

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September 30, 2011, 04:05:44 PM
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Our vote hasn't decided anything, ie, there was no power given to it - therefore it is not a demonstration of democracy.

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September 30, 2011, 04:30:28 PM
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Our vote hasn't decided anything, ie, there was no power given to it - therefore it is not a demonstration of democracy.

Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.

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September 30, 2011, 04:39:22 PM
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Our vote hasn't decided anything, ie, there was no power given to it - therefore it is not a demonstration of democracy.

Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.

Alternatively you could live in the real world.

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September 30, 2011, 04:47:14 PM
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Maples and oaks.

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September 30, 2011, 07:31:29 PM
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Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.

Alternatively you could live in the real world.

Tell that to the Iraqis. They supposedly have a democracy thanks to the Americans.

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September 30, 2011, 07:40:04 PM
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Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.

Alternatively you could live in the real world.

Tell that to the Iraqis. They supposedly have a democracy thanks to the Americans.

Yes.  And for all the crap they inflict on one another, there is a less oppression than under the dictatorship.  Thanks for reminding us that democracy is better than dictatorship.  Do let us know if the Pope really is a Catholic and where bears go for a shit...its bound to be equally surprising.

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September 30, 2011, 08:43:36 PM
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Oh boy. Another round of "defend a complex real-world system vs a simple theoretical system".
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September 30, 2011, 09:10:13 PM
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Yes.  And for all the crap they inflict on one another, there is a less oppression than under the dictatorship.  Thanks for reminding us that democracy is better than dictatorship.  Do let us know if the Pope really is a Catholic and where bears go for a shit...its bound to be equally surprising.

Less murder and plunder is no doubt better. Metaphorically speaking, I could explain to my wife that I'm faithful 95% of the time, but I don't think she'll be too pleased.

I would think I should at least get an A- for effort. Not...Fail.

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September 30, 2011, 09:12:47 PM
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Well, according to liberals, with a majority of scientists saying that global warming is true makes it so.

So if a majority of Bitcoin forum users believe that democracy is a bad idea, then it is. You must accept it. Laws must be put in place based on it. Taxes must be passed to deal with it.

Alternatively you could live in the real world.

Tell that to the Iraqis. They supposedly have a democracy thanks to the Americans.

Yes.  And for all the crap they inflict on one another, there is a less oppression than under the dictatorship.  Thanks for reminding us that democracy is better than dictatorship.  Do let us know if the Pope really is a Catholic and where bears go for a shit...its bound to be equally surprising.
Lulz.

My opinion:
Republic > Democracy > Dictatorship/Communism/Marxism/Monarchy/Etc

Which is why I am glad I live in a republican nation.  A true Democracy would never work.

I never understood why the conservative party names themselves the Republicans, whereas the liberal party names themselves the Democrats.  Yet, the US is a Republic, not a Democracy.  Ironic...
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September 30, 2011, 09:38:20 PM
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I never understood why the conservative party names themselves the Republicans, whereas the liberal party names themselves the Democrats.  Yet, the US is a Republic, not a Democracy.  Ironic...

It's an political artifact from the 1800s.

They were originally one party, the Democratic Republican party, founded by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in 1792, in opposition to the Federalist party led by Alexander Hamilton.

They split up in the 1820s into the Jackson Men (led by Andrew Jackson, which became the Democratic party in 1844) and the National Republican party (Led by Henry Clay and John Quincy Adams, which was absorbed by the Whig party in 1832 after Clay was defeated in the presidential election, which then became the modern Republican party in 1854).
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September 30, 2011, 10:06:44 PM
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led by Andrew Jackson, which became the Democratic party in 1844

Jackson's opponents used the nickname of "Jackass" to demean Jackson. He went with it. That is why the Democrat Party mascot is a jackass.

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October 01, 2011, 12:44:58 AM
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DEMOCRACY IS BAD BUT I REFUSE TO OFFER UP AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM WHICH WOULD BE FAIRER - Every single poster on this forum, to be perfectly honest
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October 01, 2011, 12:55:24 AM
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DEMOCRACY IS BAD BUT I REFUSE TO OFFER UP AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM WHICH WOULD BE FAIRER - Every single poster on this forum, to be perfectly honest

Libertarianism is the most just system.
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October 01, 2011, 01:02:51 AM
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DEMOCRACY IS BAD BUT I REFUSE TO OFFER UP AN ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM WHICH WOULD BE FAIRER - Every single poster on this forum, to be perfectly honest

^^^  Proof someone doesn't read the forum.  A lot of people here have proposed alternatives to democracy, everything from anarcho-capitalism to a Republic to anarcho-socialism.  Besides, define "fair". 
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