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July 11, 2018, 09:44:05 PM
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It's because segwit addresses cannot sign messages.
Electrum signs , but it's nonstandard and other wallets do not recognize it.

Only legacy addresses signs, and you are using a segwit walleton ledger live.

You need to somehow create a legacy Wallet on ledger live. Maybe if you click create new account and add another btc wallet and Mark as legacy. I didn't tried to do this but it may work.

As I said, I think you should work on chrome app or Electrum for now.



Your solution works. If i use ledger chrome app and legacy chain and send bitcoin to it, then i can import that address on ledger live software. As i read on redit the legacy is not supported in this version of ledger live, maybe they will implement in next version.

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July 12, 2018, 12:20:05 AM
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It's because segwit addresses cannot sign messages.
Electrum signs , but it's nonstandard and other wallets do not recognize it.

Only legacy addresses signs, and you are using a segwit walleton ledger live.

You need to somehow create a legacy Wallet on ledger live. Maybe if you click create new account and add another btc wallet and Mark as legacy. I didn't tried to do this but it may work.

As I said, I think you should work on chrome app or Electrum for now.



Your solution works. If i use ledger chrome app and legacy chain and send bitcoin to it, then i can import that address on ledger live software. As i read on redit the legacy is not supported in this version of ledger live, maybe they will implement in next version.

It's possible they might add support for people with money on legacy addresses, but I hope they don't re-add the ability to receive money at legacy addresses. There's almost no benefit to using them now.

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July 12, 2018, 05:03:44 AM
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As i read on redit the legacy is not supported in this version of ledger live, maybe they will implement in next version.
I'm pretty sure that's not right. Where did you read that? Can't find anything on reddit.

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July 12, 2018, 06:07:11 AM
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As i read on redit the legacy is not supported in this version of ledger live, maybe they will implement in next version.
Ledger Live does support Legacy accounts:



... but I suspect that is only if you have "history" in your Legacy account AND that address history is within the default gap limit (ie. you can't add a "new" legacy account). Given that the OP selected an address that is at index 95... that is waaaaay past the default gap limit and wouldn't be found during the sync process.

At this time, I'm not aware of any way to increase the gap-limit in Leger Live... I've been crawling through the code, but I don't see anything in the client where you can force a sync to a specific address index. I suspect it might be hardcoded into the server side of the API? Huh



This was a very common problem with the "sign message" dropdown in the Chrome web app, in that it actually showed addresses in an almost random (possibly "alphanumeric"?) order. So it was possible that the address at the top of the list was actually at an index past the gap limit Undecided

Although, why people kept using the "sign message" dropdown instead of "Receive" tab to get an address is a complete mystery to me... If you want to get a "receive address", surely it makes more sense to click "receive"? Huh Roll Eyes


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July 12, 2018, 07:17:23 PM
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As i read on redit the legacy is not supported in this version of ledger live, maybe they will implement in next version.
I'm pretty sure that's not right. Where did you read that? Can't find anything on reddit.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/8xbico/ledger_live_the_new_allinone_companion_app_to/

Scroll down and you will see. You can use legacy only if has history on it. You can't create legacy with new seed on ledger live, but this should not be a problem.

HCP i want an address with some character, that is why i choosed an address from signed. I used the same in past and worked well. And you are right. Ledger live support legacy with accounts with history on it.

No problem, from now i will use only receiving address to get bitcoins on.

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July 13, 2018, 12:08:26 AM
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Although, why people kept using the "sign message" dropdown instead of "Receive" tab to get an address is a complete mystery to me... If you want to get a "receive address", surely it makes more sense to click "receive"? Huh Roll Eyes



I guess people are out to destroy any means that wallet developers build to help them increase their own privacy.

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July 13, 2018, 09:00:25 AM
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Although, why people kept using the "sign message" dropdown instead of "Receive" tab to get an address is a complete mystery to me... If you want to get a "receive address", surely it makes more sense to click "receive"? Huh Roll Eyes



I guess people are out to destroy any means that wallet developers build to help them increase their own privacy.

This is not have any connection with privacy, if I use address generated by wallet to receive coins, than that coins should be displayed on my total balance. As Adriano2010 say, he just want some address which will be recognizable for him, and I also want the same thing. Problem is that this is not working with Ledger because they do not know/or they do not want to remove/increase address gap limit and they are aware of that "problem". I'm not sure is there any warning in Ledger site about this issue, but although it happens rarely any info would save someone a lot of nerves and time.

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July 14, 2018, 12:41:19 AM
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I guess people are out to destroy any means that wallet developers build to help them increase their own privacy.

This is not have any connection with privacy,
It does... what RGBkey was point out was that by manually selecting addresses and (most likely) re-using them... you are ruining not only your own privacy, but the privacy of those that you transact with. There is a reason that address re-use is discouraged! Wink


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if I use address generated by wallet to receive coins, than that coins should be displayed on my total balance. As Adriano2010 say, he just want some address which will be recognizable for him, and I also want the same thing. Problem is that this is not working with Ledger because they do not know/or they do not want to remove/increase address gap limit and they are aware of that "problem". I'm not sure is there any warning in Ledger site about this issue, but although it happens rarely any info would save someone a lot of nerves and time.
People are "misusing" the wallet... if you want a "receive" address... click "receive" and the wallet will give you an "unused" address within the gap limit. By manually selecting an address from the "sign message" dropdown you are using the wallet in a non-standard way and run the risk of running into issues.

It's like smashing the top off a bottle of beer and then complaining that there are shards of glass in your beer... and that the beer maker should fix the problem.

I imagine that they have to limit the gap limit setting on the server-side to prevent possible "DDoS" attacks from people setting it to 10000 and then opening multiple wallets. If you need to search past the default Ledger gap limit, you can always hook your wallet up to Electrum and do it there (or even use the xpub with Electrum and a watching only wallet for added security)

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