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July 13, 2018, 08:01:32 AM
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Yes where is the evidence qwk? next time archive the evidence before these scammers delete them. Wink

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July 13, 2018, 08:51:49 AM
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Yes where is the evidence qwk? next time archive the evidence before these scammers delete them. Wink

Based on the modlog it looks like some of his topics were deleted by the moderators.

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July 13, 2018, 10:39:10 AM
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which of my topics were moved to other sections
Seems that this topic was deleted by moderator:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4559639
I don't know why qwk gave you negative trust rating, because there are no archived version of this thread. Anyway, only person who left trust rating on your profile can remove it. So, I recommend to contact user qwk.




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July 13, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
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I believe this is the thread if it helps, I haven't translated it so I won't comment on the validity of the feedback.

https://archive.is/icOzx

EDIT: Now that I've translated, there is an active english version:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3395124.0
And an archive exists from June for the english version: https://archive.is/XWkrv

And it all looks pretty shady to me...

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July 13, 2018, 02:00:53 PM
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Claiming to have up to 200K Bitcoins is a big claim, I'd suggest OP to provide evidence of owning these coins to convince ibminer and qwk to remove their tags.

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I'M A BROKER! NOT THE OWNER OF THE COINS ! I'm INTERMEDIARY!

Well, then ask your clients to prove they have the coins and relay it here. If you're working as an affiliate for them and haven't bothered checking if they even have what they're claiming to sell, then that's a problem on your end.
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I'M A BROKER! NOT THE OWNER OF THE COINS ! I'm INTERMEDIARY!

According to this, you are asking people to pass KYC/AML procedure without stating if you have the authority to ask for such documents. could you tell us who are the owners of these coins?

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I work with many sellers, and no one ever sends satoshi first
this is possible only after a zoom conference and the provision of at least LOI

Who is your regulator? do you know that you are not allowed to ask for KYC required documents from people if you are not regulated? this is enough to tag you red. if you ask for KYC who will verify your clients?

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I was lowered by the trust without proof, what can I do?
You can leave!

Yes where is the evidence qwk?
The evidence is in my memory.  OP was complaining about Andy4 plagiarizing his scam-thread. The irony.
But I mainly remember him from this Meta thread, where I posted (among others) this:
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It's quite simple: almost any Newbie trying to trade coins is a scammer. If you make an extraordinary claim, the least you can do is sign a message to give it credibility. If you can't sign a message, nobody will ever believe you.
And if it's true, a signed message can help trace the origin of the coins. 200,000 Bitcoin sounds like something that could have been stolen van Mt.Gox back in the days.

As for cleaning up your thread: close it, create a new one, click "Additional Options...", and make it self-moderated. But without a signed message, this will be an even bigger red flag that it's a scam.

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You have quite a foul mouth for someone doing billion dollar deals!

And you speak many languages. Or is that Google Translate talking?
I'm surprised it took you that long to get red trust.

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I'm not going anywhere, do not hope)
I work honestly and openly and do not intend to deceive anyone

You are actually trying to deceive people, you are not in a position to request KYC documents from people if you are not regulated.

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you don't know anything about the procedures, and you don't have to accuse me without proof!
signed by NDA, with KYC work or lawyers or escrow, me KYC not need!

I don't need any proof, you need to provide evidence and tell us who will verify KYC collected documents? asking for KYC is illegal if you are not regulated. next time check with your lawyers before coming here and conduct illegal business.

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asking for KYC is illegal if you are not regulated. next time check with your lawyers before coming here and conduct illegal business.
Do you have a reference for this? Huh

I'm fairly sure that people can ask for anything that they deem necessary before conducting business with someone... "regulated" or not. Whether the person chooses to provide what has been requested is up to them. On the flipside, if you are regulated, then it's more that you have to ask for KYC documents, even if you don't want to.

"next time check your facts before coming here and trying to sound all knowledgeable." Roll Eyes

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asking for KYC is illegal if you are not regulated. next time check with your lawyers before coming here and conduct illegal business.
Do you have a reference for this? Huh

Firt off digaran doesn't know anything about the location of that user so how in the fuck would he know what laws that user has to conform too and who regulates them...??  This is typical of this user, he makes stuff up and states it as fact.  When people say things like X is illegal, until you produce actual laws from actual countries involved you can consider it as something pulled out of someone's ass.

Second it probably is a scam LOL
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asking for KYC is illegal if you are not regulated. next time check with your lawyers before coming here and conduct illegal business.
Do you have a reference for this? Huh

I'm fairly sure that people can ask for anything that they deem necessary before conducting business with someone... "regulated" or not. Whether the person chooses to provide what has been requested is up to them. On the flipside, if you are regulated, then it's more that you have to ask for KYC documents, even if you don't want to.

"next time check your facts before coming here and trying to sound all knowledgeable." Roll Eyes

Dude, stop posting for the sake of getting paid in your signature.
If what OP is doing is actually true, having hundreds of thousands of Bitcoins and trying to conduct business without having license from regulation bodies, they could go to jail and or be prosecuted to illegally exchange fiat with Bitcoins. you also don't get to ask for KYC documents if your not permitted by the law. they don't have any official exchanging site, they do business over the counter.

If you want to dismiss the shady legal aspects of their business, do that. here is another thing I could ask from them:
Show us your Bitcoins or no red tags will be removed, we have the right to ask this and if they are not willing to provide what we asked, then we are not going to remove their tags because we consider their lack of cooperation untrustworthy behavior.

asking for KYC is illegal if you are not regulated. next time check with your lawyers before coming here and conduct illegal business.
Do you have a reference for this? Huh

Firt off digaran doesn't know anything about the location of that user so how in the fuck would he know what laws that user has to conform too and who regulates them...??  This is typical of this user, he makes stuff up and states it as fact.  When people say things like X is illegal, until you produce actual laws from actual countries involved you can consider it as something pulled out of someone's ass.

Second it probably is a scam LOL

Look who is not aware of anything and is talking out of their ass. I'm not the one who tagged OP, I'm just trying to help ibminer and qwk. they tagged the OP rightfully because there are too many unanswered questions here. besides the red tags are based on DT laws.

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you also don't get to ask for KYC documents if your not permitted by the law.
Let's try again... Do you have a reference for this? Huh



NOTE: I am not endorsing nor trying to "dismiss" the obviously dodgy business of the OP... I'm questioning the validity of statements that have been posted as "facts".

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we are not going to remove their tags because we consider their lack of cooperation untrustworthy behavior.

Again pretending that you have the ability to remove (or not) red tags? One lesson was not enough?

I'm just trying to help ibminer and qwk.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that neither ibminer nor qwk need your help here. Nor are you really helping in any conceivable way.

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you also don't get to ask for KYC documents if your not permitted by the law.
Let's try again... Do you have a reference for this? Huh



NOTE: I am not endorsing nor trying to "dismiss" the obviously dodgy business of the OP... I'm questioning the validity of statements that have been posted as "facts".

KYC or know your customer is required by service owners doing business involving transfer of money. OP is not representing any service owner such as an exchanging site. if they don't own any service then they are not allowed to have a customer to ask for their documents in order to get to know them.

Blah blah blah

Actually I don't care what you think, you have already tagged me twice. you are a blatant trust abuser and I'm not going to answer to any of your unreasonable questions, make sure to close the door on your way out.

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KYC or know your customer is required by service owners doing business involving transfer of money. OP is not representing any service owner such as an exchanging site. if they don't own any service then they are not allowed to have a customer to ask for their documents in order to get to know them.
Says whom? You still haven't provided any actual evidence to support your statement.

Laws/Regulations that state "Financial service providers must collect KYC documentation" does not equal "No-one but financial service providers may collect KYC documentation" Roll Eyes

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KYC or know your customer is required by service owners doing business involving transfer of money. OP is not representing any service owner such as an exchanging site. if they don't own any service then they are not allowed to have a customer to ask for their documents in order to get to know them.
Says whom? You still haven't provided any actual evidence to support your statement.

Laws/Regulations that state "Financial service providers must collect KYC documentation" does not equal "No-one but financial service providers may collect KYC documentation" Roll Eyes

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is the process of a business verifying the identity of its clients and assessing potential risks of illegal intentions for the business relationship. The term is also used to refer to the bank regulations and anti-money laundering regulations which govern these activities

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer
I'm not actually a regulator but I know that in every country you must be permitted by regulatory entities to request for KYC documents or else you could use those documents to impersonate other people aka identity theft.
All OP has to do is to tell us who are the people asking for KYC documents from people, providing a signed message from an address with at least 500 Bitcoins would be enough to remove the tags. keep at posting HCP, 0.00075BTC per post is a good incentive for you.

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