NXT ??

[deftonikus]

Everyone should definetly buy NXT and NEM, both are great opportunity.

[moonriver]

Everyone should definetly buy NXT and NEM, both are great opportunity.

not sure about NEM. but since it is still very cheap, worth a try

[BitcoinSteve]

how much btc is nem

[play4ce]

how much btc is nem

1 mio NEM was 1k NXT, a few days ago...

[Schwarzalbert]

NXT could be overtaken by a competitor such as NEM with a better initial distribution as this will attract a wider following more quickly.

NXT is a great idea, great code, great devs, so is ripple, both suffer from volume due to this lock poor distribution out feature.

Tenebrix suffered from this, and look what LTC did to that will a better launch by distribution.

Doge is the opposite to this it reaches a large market.

Abso-fucking-lutely never.
The vast, vast , vast majority of NEM accounts are sockpuppets owned by 1% It has worse distribution than NXT and UtopianFuture refused to do shit about it.

I don't mind NEM at all, infact I own a single stake in it (because I followed the rules), but NXT is the future.

how much is a stake?

Why are you telling us such lies about NEM. Do you know utopianfuture? Do you know about NEM enough to judge about the future of that coin?
I thought i'd find a fair discussion based on facts.

[2Kool4Skewl]

NXT could be overtaken by a competitor such as NEM with a better initial distribution as this will attract a wider following more quickly.

NXT is a great idea, great code, great devs, so is ripple, both suffer from volume due to this lock poor distribution out feature.

Tenebrix suffered from this, and look what LTC did to that will a better launch by distribution.

Doge is the opposite to this it reaches a large market.

Abso-fucking-lutely never.
The vast, vast , vast majority of NEM accounts are sockpuppets owned by 1% It has worse distribution than NXT and UtopianFuture refused to do shit about it.

I don't mind NEM at all, infact I own a single stake in it (because I followed the rules), but NXT is the future.

how much is a stake?

Why are you telling us such lies about NEM. Do you know utopianfuture? Do you know about NEM enough to judge about the future of that coin?
I thought i'd find a fair discussion based on facts.

No offense Schwarzalbert, but you don't know what you are talking about.  NEM's distribution is poor because people didn't follow the rules.  Uniqueorn is correct.

[jubalix]

NXT could be overtaken by a competitor such as NEM with a better initial distribution as this will attract a wider following more quickly.

NXT is a great idea, great code, great devs, so is ripple, both suffer from volume due to this lock poor distribution out feature.

Tenebrix suffered from this, and look what LTC did to that will a better launch by distribution.

Doge is the opposite to this it reaches a large market.

Abso-fucking-lutely never.
The vast, vast , vast majority of NEM accounts are sockpuppets owned by 1% It has worse distribution than NXT and UtopianFuture refused to do shit about it.

I don't mind NEM at all, infact I own a single stake in it (because I followed the rules), but NXT is the future.

how much is a stake?

Why are you telling us such lies about NEM. Do you know utopianfuture? Do you know about NEM enough to judge about the future of that coin?
I thought i'd find a fair discussion based on facts.

No offense Schwarzalbert, but you don't know what you are talking about.  NEM's distribution is poor because people didn't follow the rules.  Uniqueorn is correct.

if the sockppupet issue is to large enough then mathematically hem would have a worse distribution than NXT. A casual glance at the numbers involve would about 72 members for NXT of who a % could be sock puppets.

in nem there are...1200 and you can see duplicates have been detected, proptionaly even if there are more sockpupets in NEM, absolutely this would still leave more founders coins in more hands.....

any how its seem 1200 would be more distributed that 72.....

I think a cut of date by registration is a good solution.

Also why did nxt stop its buy in prematurely?

[BitcoinSteve]

so Im buying 10k at least of NXT or NEM which and why?

[r0ach]

A really really amazing scenario for NXT - Something fatal happens with bitcoin security,

lol, except NXT is provably less secure than the various alterations of Bitcoin protocol, so the exact opposite scenario is more likely to happen.

Maybe both are "secure enough" and this problem is irrelevant, we will see.

[2Kool4Skewl]

NXT could be overtaken by a competitor such as NEM with a better initial distribution as this will attract a wider following more quickly.

NXT is a great idea, great code, great devs, so is ripple, both suffer from volume due to this lock poor distribution out feature.

Tenebrix suffered from this, and look what LTC did to that will a better launch by distribution.

Doge is the opposite to this it reaches a large market.

Abso-fucking-lutely never.
The vast, vast , vast majority of NEM accounts are sockpuppets owned by 1% It has worse distribution than NXT and UtopianFuture refused to do shit about it.

I don't mind NEM at all, infact I own a single stake in it (because I followed the rules), but NXT is the future.

how much is a stake?

Why are you telling us such lies about NEM. Do you know utopianfuture? Do you know about NEM enough to judge about the future of that coin?
I thought i'd find a fair discussion based on facts.

No offense Schwarzalbert, but you don't know what you are talking about.  NEM's distribution is poor because people didn't follow the rules.  Uniqueorn is correct.

if the sockppupet issue is to large enough then mathematically hem would have a worse distribution than NXT. A casual glance at the numbers involve would about 72 members for NXT of who a % could be sock puppets.

in nem there are...1200 and you can see duplicates have been detected, proptionaly even if there are more sockpupets in NEM, absolutely this would still leave more founders coins in more hands.....

any how its seem 1200 would be more distributed that 72.....

I think a cut of date by registration is a good solution.

Also why did nxt stop its buy in prematurely?

No one really knows except for BCNext.  It's my opinion that it was ended because BCNext knew that if he left it open longer there was a higher chance of multiple stakes belonging to one person.  It's my belief that very few, if any, Nxt stakeholders had multiple stakes.  Remember, few people were interested in Nxt at that time.

[2Kool4Skewl]

So correct me if I am wrong in understanding this. Found Here73 original stakehodlers got together and built a "coin" and mined all of them. In order to impose a value on them they are giving them away to many future wallet hodlers. 73 original stakehodlers control more than 51% of a POS only coin? Sounds like ORB with a fancier name. Although with ORB you may get to hold 33% of them after they have been mined long enough. With NXT the only coins that are being traded are the ones that they intentionally let go of, meandering between more and more wallet hodlers until they finally get set free on an exchange.
The point is that when a centralized authority creates a device on which to exchange a value, the centralized authority tends to hold most of the devices(fiat, XRP, ORB, NXT).

Nxt isn't a proof-of-work currency, so you can't mine it.  All Nxt is currently in existence.  The more Nxt you hold the more transaction fees you collect.  Nxt is a pure proof-of-stake system.  It's not like Orb.

[jubalix]

NXT could be overtaken by a competitor such as NEM with a better initial distribution as this will attract a wider following more quickly.

NXT is a great idea, great code, great devs, so is ripple, both suffer from volume due to this lock poor distribution out feature.

Tenebrix suffered from this, and look what LTC did to that will a better launch by distribution.

Doge is the opposite to this it reaches a large market.

Abso-fucking-lutely never.
The vast, vast , vast majority of NEM accounts are sockpuppets owned by 1% It has worse distribution than NXT and UtopianFuture refused to do shit about it.

I don't mind NEM at all, infact I own a single stake in it (because I followed the rules), but NXT is the future.

how much is a stake?

Why are you telling us such lies about NEM. Do you know utopianfuture? Do you know about NEM enough to judge about the future of that coin?
I thought i'd find a fair discussion based on facts.

No offense Schwarzalbert, but you don't know what you are talking about.  NEM's distribution is poor because people didn't follow the rules.  Uniqueorn is correct.

if the sockppupet issue is to large enough then mathematically hem would have a worse distribution than NXT. A casual glance at the numbers involve would about 72 members for NXT of who a % could be sock puppets.

in nem there are...1200 and you can see duplicates have been detected, proptionaly even if there are more sockpupets in NEM, absolutely this would still leave more founders coins in more hands.....

any how its seem 1200 would be more distributed that 72.....

I think a cut of date by registration is a good solution.

Also why did nxt stop its buy in prematurely?

No one really knows except for BCNext.  It's my opinion that it was ended because BCNext knew that if he left it open longer there was a higher chance of multiple stakes belonging to one person.  It's my belief that very few, if any, Nxt stakeholders had multiple stakes.  Remember, few people were interested in Nxt at that time.

well thats not completely  true.

See before nxt, and even that thread, some release  beta of nxt almost exactly as it was and I downloaded it an tried it, then they said nope not doing this. It's in the threads here it was july to Aug last year. I tangentially heard about nxt but was away during the fund raise, due to other reasons, but it was cut short.

I don't think it was the sockpupets coming from the outside at that loin, it must have been a dilution issue decision.

Also what happened to bcnext and when did he leave and who was Come from Beyond attracted to be come core dev?

[Tan]

I heard about nxt just several days ago and get to know more about it.

[TwinWinNerD]

I heard about nxt just several days ago and get to know more about it.

The founders control over 51% of a POS coin. Sounds like centralization to me. The video they have on Vimeo, is clearly made by a 10 year old without proper spelling checks and they obviously did not want you to hear their voice.

Lol that's so much bullshit in one post...

[Nullu]

I heard about nxt just several days ago and get to know more about it.

The founders control over 51% of a POS coin. Sounds like centralization to me. The video they have on Vimeo, is clearly made by a 10 year old without proper spelling checks and they obviously did not want you to hear their voice.

Lol that's so much bullshit in one post...

Try to point out where I am wrong, show proof!

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not those challenging it.

[PoolMinor]

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not those challenging it.

It is obvious that no one has any way of answering truthfully to my comments, so I deleted them. Carry on with your PONZI PYRAMID SCAM COIN. The value of 21BTC is a made up number to imply a value, that is why the "IPO" was not publicized.

[Nullu]

Burden of proof is on the person making the claim, not those challenging it.

It is obvious that no one has any way of answering truthfully to my comments, so I deleted them. Carry on with your PONZI PYRAMID SCAM COIN. The value of 21BTC is a made up number to imply a value, that is why the "IPO" was not publicized.

I wasn't actually defending nor criticising your points. I was simply suggesting you back up your claims with sources.

The huge centralisation issues caused by some stakeholders holding an extremely large amount of NXT is a rather big concern. Other than that I know very little about NXT.