Why are some people still skeptical about climate change?

[BMWsaloon]

When we talk about some people, I think Donald Trump is one of them. He is very much skeptical about climate change.

[Spendulus]

When we talk about some people, I think Donald Trump is one of them. He is very much skeptical about climate change.

Sure.

It's hard to not be skeptical when you see politicians wanting to take your money to roll back the oceans.

[Amadeo33]

I think that most people do not even think about such global problems. People are more interested in their personal minor problems than global and common ones. Collective responsibility is not peculiar to a person. It turns out everyone is guilty and no one personally. Therefore, people are not very worried about such problems.

[popcorn1]

How can people be skeptical of climate change   we have summer winter climate change in action ..

Something you all should know about climate change ..

Climate change is fresh air tax  you do all know this don't you ?  I will explain my case..

We are getting told that bad gases are heating the earth up and we need to tax this bad gas because of climate change it's heating the earth up ..

Ok if the bad gas is heating the earth up who pays for this tax   the business owners ? OR will it get passed on to your average joe meaning cost will go up because of bad gas
that heats the earth up and now poor mary will need more money to live?..

Now about this bad gas tax that heats the earth up  say you clean the gas to good gas  what will happen to the heat source REMEMBER you took the bad gas out what about the heat source ?..

If i light 1 fire in a 100 sq ft  it will be warm  if i light 30 fires in 100 sq ft you will boil  NOW what about all the heat sources how do you know that's the cause of the earth warming up so no matter even if you clean the bad gases what about the heat source and don't forget heat travels up  SO the more people want to live like the west the more heat sources from cars homes factories   SO is it the bad gas OR the heat source all over the planet and heat rises ..

Now we are getting TRICKED into paying for air pollution when is it the pollution or the heat source that heats the earth up?..

The more homes built and factories the more heat sources and heat rises up ..But we will be paying taxes for air pollution because that's the cause of climate change when it might not even be that it could be the heat source AND what i mean by this is after years and years of paying taxes for pollution will we end up finding out it's not the pollution it was the heat source  remember heat rises ..

And how many want to live the modern way?  more heat sources rising heat all over the globe  and we get told to pay for bad gases when it might not even be because of the gas  And it might not be even for the heat source just good old earth moving around ..

Now who benefits from carbon tax?  Instead of making a doomsday thing up why not just say greedy businesses your getting taxed instead of blaming climate for collecting
more taxes?..  Just say we are taxing you because we need this because you make enough greedy bunch of peoples..

I wonder who gets kickbacks for the climate taxes the POLITICIANS?  more taxes for them to feed their families ..

Remember Diesel more healthy than petrol so you would go out and buy a Diesel   now Diesel is bad for you   all so you would buy a Diesel   so i wonder did VW give politicians kickbacks for this lie   well how many did they sell ..Just like carbon tax ..

Now how do we stop the heat source?  well we can't  so forget your tax just stop the bad gases without the tax thanks..

Because we might be paying for nothing when all along it's the heat source and not the carbon gases ..

[Becksinsky]

Or maybe because people don`t know about it?
For example, I haven’t heard for the last time that the media talk about it.
Probably everyone has ever heard this word combination, but few people understand well what it is.
I think the media should talk more about this, give concrete facts, studies, forecasts of scientists, etc. It is necessary for people to understand that this is a real problem and a threat to humanity.
But unfortunately, the media almost don`t engage in such an important matter.
Therefore, people don`t understand.

[Waradlain]

I think you mean those people who believe that HIV doesn't exist, you will have horns and tail from genetically modified products, and no need for vaccination.
Most people aren't very smart. Without having an opinion and not understanding the essence of the issue, they're happy to relay other people's thoughts that aren't always adequate.
When you start arguing with them suddenly it turns out that your a rapist from frozen wasteland.

[TECSHARE]

I think you mean those people who believe that HIV doesn't exist, you will have horns and tail from genetically modified products, and no need for vaccination.
Most people aren't very smart. Without having an opinion and not understanding the essence of the issue, they're happy to relay other people's thoughts that aren't always adequate.
When you start arguing with them suddenly it turns out that your a rapist from frozen wasteland.

It always amazes me how accurately the descriptions that leftists try to use to demonize people usually quite accurately describe their own behavior.

Perhaps present some empirical data to support your argument. Character attacks aren't going to do anything but reassure existing true believers, and at most make less people have a debate openly while they question your conclusions privately.

BTW... Obvious sock puppet is obvious.

[Waradlain]

I think you mean those people who believe that HIV doesn't exist, you will have horns and tail from genetically modified products, and no need for vaccination.
Most people aren't very smart. Without having an opinion and not understanding the essence of the issue, they're happy to relay other people's thoughts that aren't always adequate.
When you start arguing with them suddenly it turns out that your a rapist from frozen wasteland.

It always amazes me how accurately the descriptions that leftists try to use to demonize people usually quite accurately describe their own behavior.

Perhaps present some empirical data to support your argument. Character attacks aren't going to do anything but reassure existing true believers, and at most make less people have a debate openly while they question your conclusions privately.

BTW... Obvious sock puppet is obvious.

So sock puppet or loon? I'm confused

[Spendulus]

am just trying to understand why some people in society are still skeptical about climate change even though there are scientific proof.

There's nothing wrong and everything right about being skeptical about things people try to scare you into doing, believing, and paying for based on their assertion that there's "scientific proof of climate change."

That's a separate issue from how, why and what they are trying to extort from you.

[Flying Hellfish]

This vid from the spring was kind of funny and relevant to this topic.

Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078

I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.

I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078

[bluefirecorp_]

This vid from the spring was kind of funny and relevant to this topic.

Joe Rogan made Candace Owens look like an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078

I love how he keeps hammering away and won't let her whataboutism move the questions off track.

I love how he keeps asking her why do you believe when you don't know, and she just answers with nonsensical bullshit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD29jqH078

A certain party thrives off nonsensical bullshit if you haven't noticed.

I'm pretty sure people who support her totally agree with her arguments even though they're absolutely nonsensical.

[PlasticIcescapades]

Some believe that the changes are cyclical and that one point nature will find a way to get itself back to normal.
But most specialists say that the results will be catastrophic should the powers that be not intervene.
I think so as well. But for them to intervene would mean to spend a lot of money and disrupt their current money making schemes.

[Lammie]

It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.

[bluefirecorp_]

It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.

Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?



Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.

[Spendulus]

It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.

Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?

(deleted the Al Gore Hockey Stick)

Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.

Not in the case of the Little Ice Age, or the Medieval Warm Period. Not in the case of many other natural phenomena. Guess you are just wrong on that.

[bluefirecorp_]

It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.

Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?

(deleted the Al Gore Hockey Stick)

Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.

Not in the case of the Little Ice Age, or the Medieval Warm Period. Not in the case of many other natural phenomena. Guess you are just wrong on that.

GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!


No source = fake news!~!!!!


inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.

[Spendulus]

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GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!


No source = fake news!~!!!!


inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.

You talk and act childish, you want to get responses?

[bluefirecorp_]

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GIB ME DA PROOF BOIIIII!!


No source = fake news!~!!!!


inb4 some alt-right conspiracy bullshit where they also proclaim the earth is flat on the same site.

You talk and act childish, you want to get responses?

Oh, I was just summarizing your argument methodology.

I suppose I should put quote around it otherwise it could be considered plagiarism

But the fact that you couldn't provide proof means you've conceded on your point; good debate my fellow. Nice to own you yet again.

[Lucusfoundation]

Many people, specially big corporations, just because of business.
If you're running a company that has a direct influence over climate change, its normal and logic that you will say that climate change is not something real.

As to the masses, well. It's been said above, some people still think that the world is flat. That is pretty much of a good background on what's the current state of society.

They discovered that the world is round hundreds of years ago, but stubborn minds are not something that scarce.

[TECSHARE]

It's a scientific fact that the overall temperature is rising. The problem most people have with this theory, is that the media is claiming it's due to human influences that the worlds temperature is rising. Which can be disproven very easily. Humans have a very, very minor effect on climate change. The worlds temperature has gone up and down over the last thousands and thousands of years. For example : 300 years ago it was almost 1 C° higher than it is now.
So that's my problem with the theory. Although you simply can't deny that climate change isn't happening.

Here's a nice timeline. It's pretty smooth, even though there's changes greater than 1C. Notice the extreme curve in recent history?

EXCESSIVELY LONG CHART BASED ON IPCC DATA

Normally non-man made climate change takes place over tens of thousands of years, not hundreds.

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/AR5_SYR_FINAL_SPM.pdf

Gee, it is likely they like to make lots of projections. It almost seems like all of your "facts" are really just theories, projections, and simulations. Lets pretend for the sake of argument that these studies even represented facts. Now lets look at how many times the IPCC has been exposed for fraud and manipulating data to get desired results.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/28/mit-climate-scientist-dr-richard-lindzen-rips-un-ipcc-report-the-latest-ipcc-report-has-truly-sunk-to-level-of-hilarious-incoherence-it-is-quite-amazing-to-see-the-contortions-the-ipcc-has/
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/urban_heat_island_could_it_account_for_most_warming_attributed_to_agw/
https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Climategate
https://www.forbes.com/sites/workday/2018/10/25/a-top-priority-for-todays-cfo-having-confidence-in-your-data/


Long story short, the IPCC has been shown to not take into account urban heat islands when placing temperature monitoring stations leading so skewed (higher) measurements. In addition their models are based off of the data presented by Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA), which has been proven to have manipulated the past data to make it appear lower than it should have to give the appearance of a rise in temperature. Your supposed facts here have already been shredded, you just refuse to take our head out of the sand and review it, because if it disagrees with you, it must be made by "science denying idiots".